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| 12-07-10 01:50pm - 5129 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
Hiding Your Porn Tracks The issue of people being able to snoop on your cyberporn habits has come up numerous times in poll questions and in forum topics. However, I hadn't seen any discussion about how good the "usual suspsects" (e.g. - standard internet cleanup tools) work in terms of hiding your tracks. I came across an article here that actually looked at how good the cleanup tools worked in terms of hiding someones visits to porn sites. The results were mixed. For the average person, it would be pretty hard to find evidence. For an IT person, it only takes a 1/2 hour max to resurrect the deleted cookies and other traces. The article does suggest a program that can permanently destroy all cookies. This does lead to a related question I had know that the online version of porn tracking seems to be answered. That is, how secure is your porn on your hard drive if you password protect those files? Assuming the IT guy doesn't run a password cracking program is it easy to work around a standard password protect setup? If so, are there simple ways or programs that can provide better security? Just thought I'd try and create a "hide your tracks" one stop shopping thread here. | |
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| 12-07-10 02:35pm - 5129 days | #2 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I use two tools: One is CCleaner, this one not only clears up all cookies and temporary files but also clears your DNS cache, and shreds your deleted material by overwriting it.(I use "overwrite three times" because more takes too much time) It also has the capacity to wipe the free space on your hard drive. Do this on a day you have lots of time, however. The second is a program called "True Crypt" it's excellent and I would defy any IT guy to crack the password and encryption. It would take Interpol and a lot of hard work and long hours to crack both. Both programs are free. True Crypt has a bit of a learning curve to it but can nevertheless be easily mastered if one reads carefully and then follows the instructions. I steer away from illegal material so wouldn't normally be all that concerned about proper security of my stash but at my age anything can happen and I wouldn't want computer savvy grandsons to run across their grandfather's Porn collection. They might be grateful, and yes, they are of legal age,  but I'd be embarrassed about it even over there!  True Crypt creates a vault within a drive, completely hides it and its contents so all he/they would see would be an empty drive (in the case of externals) that appears to need formatting, or an empty partition (I think) on the hard drive of the computer itself. | |
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| 12-07-10 06:22pm - 5129 days | #3 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Fire and lots of it! How good's my data going to be when it's just a smoldering puddle of melted metal? There's probably some lead in there just so you can think twice about getting your grimy IT hands all over my private perversions!  But seriously there's a key sentence in the linked article: "Thirty minutes of poking around by a skilled geek who gets their hands on your computer is more than enough to turn up what turns you on-even if you think you've cleared off your computer." "[A] skilled geek who gets their hands on your computer"...well, there's your problem right there--you let someone else touch your computer. C'mon! In my opinion you're just asking for trouble (or a bunch of creepy looks from tech guys). Don't surf for the good stuff at work, especially on someone else's equipment and network (and time if you really want to get anal about it). I'm so paranoid I don't even check my mail unless it's on a secured network (such as an encrypted WiFi line at home), even if it's on my laptop and I make sure I "clear" all the browsing data afterward. And sometimes I get so suspicious I quit my browser and reopen it before going from a, uh, non-questionable site, like a bank site, to something like whatever the hell they're doing over at ALSScan nowadays (totally different kind of transactions I'm sure). And even if I destroy every hard drive on every computer I have ever even sat in front of, let alone surfed the web on, I am sure there's a bunch data at Google (probably with multiple backups spread out around the world...  ) that some intern can access within a few minutes on his or her coffee break. And if it's a her...well then that's one less woman who'll likely ever want to marry me. Plus I don't plan on running for office anytime soon (ever) or applying for a really conservative, straight-laced job in my life so it's not a big concern. Oh, and porn's not a crime and I'm adult, so if's a problem I think you really just on a fishing expedition, though in the case of my love of porn you wouldn't have to fish for that long.  "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Dec 07, 2010, 06:25pm | |
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| 12-07-10 06:57pm - 5129 days | #4 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Actually on a less personal note, if you're a Mac user--I think OS X and newer--you have a number of options when erasing and/or formatting a drive (Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility > "Erase" tab > "Security Options" button). You can either: 1.) Don't Erase Data; 2.) Zero Out Data; 3.) 7-Pass Erase; or, for the super-paranoid, 4.) 35-Pass Erase. The Don't Erase Data option is what I think most people do when they reformat a drive, as it just opens up you drive for rewriting without actually overwriting the data itself. Kind of like giving somebody an eraser and a chalkboard with a bunch of writing still on it; they can write something new if they need to but the old data is still there for the reading (and incriminating!). The other three are more secure and more thorough erasure methods--and take increasingly longer times for more security. 7-Pass takes seven times as long as the Zero Out and the 35-Pass takes a hearty thirty-five times as long. Basically set it up, walk away for a weekend and hope the power doesn't go out. What that last option is for I don't know as the 7-Pass already says it meets a US DOD standard, maybe it's for the types of people who shit their pants when telemarketers call and identify them by name.  I'm not sure what the latest Windows OS disk erase options are (my 5-year old PC is still cruising on Windows XP), but I've never heard of Windows having quite the same options available within the OS, or am I wrong about this with Windows 7? "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 12-07-10 07:05pm - 5129 days | #5 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended  Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
I do the same as Messmer with using CCleaner. Very thorough. | |
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| 12-07-10 10:51pm - 5129 days | #6 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
Umm, not to point out the obvious or anything, but if your surfing porn at work, IT already knows what you are doing. Unless you are surfing using a cell modem or something, but that would be horribly cumbersome. You can clear all the caches and 35-time overrite your cookies, but most company's I've worked for have servers that log all the sites people go to. Also if you are using a corporate computer to surf porn, the company may have installed "spyware" of their own without you being aware of it. This is not uncommon. Further, many personal and business routers log domain names that are browsed and files that are downloaded. My old one used to do this, and my new one had this as the default but I turned it off. This can be easily accessed as often people don't change the router password from the default, which is usually something like blank, password, or default. I guess I'm just not as paranoid as other folks, I usually just browse porn in Firefox with Private on and figure that is good enough. I figure the reality is that if someone really wanted to learn my porn habits they could, hell my ISP knows, google knows, and I'm sure many other nameless entities know the wild and crazy habits of my IP address. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 12-08-10 02:49am - 5129 days | #7 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
In another Daily Beast article mentioned in the original linked one ISPs were listed as the ones who are "ideally positioned to know about every site you visit" (or at least every site for however long they've been your ISP). Kinda scary, but it's also the world we live. I doubt many of us really knows how the 'net works or even how much our ISP does or really knows--and I'm betting many of us don't want to know. I hate to say it but there's probably some bliss in our ignorance. It's like eating meat: most people don't want to see/know how the chicken or whatever was killed and prepared in order to make its way to our plate. All we ask is that it wasn't sick or full of strange chemicals and don't tell our families how many animals have died so we could have dinner!  Maybe one day in the future it will all become so transparent (like Wikileaks combined with the corporations who keep tabs on "our" credit scores) that when you go in for a job interview the interviewer will look over your resume, criminal history (if any) and a brief report of your Internet habits. I dread the interview where someone is looking over my past and goes -"So, it says here you were into fisting porn pretty heavily for at least ten years?"  -"Uh, yeah, I was young, and, uh, look the web was still pretty new, and I was single, and..."  -"Ah don't worry about it--it's the most vanilla fetish I've had to review all day! I really hate all this Internet record keeping."  "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Dec 08, 2010, 02:56am | |
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