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| 01-05-09 06:07pm - 5792 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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ramscrota (0)
Suspended  Posts: 54 Registered: Jul 04, '07 Location: Geelong Vic Australia |
What is 'good' and 'bad' taste & erptic sensitivity? This question arose because of various comments in the reviews and other forum topics. One thing I look for is what I call a good sense of erotic taste. I know this varies greatly, and can boil down to a person's own taste. But allowing for this, I think there is a common denomiator of good quality in porn. It also varies between pics and vids. For example, posture/pose is vital in a convicing pic set, but in a vid, movement is more important. But allowing for this, I'd like to give a few thoughts on what I think 'good erotic taste' is. 1. TEASE & EXCITEMENT The scene should tease, whet your appitite, lead you on, and satisfy you shortly before the end. Tha's why, as a lover of pic sets, I hate it when after, say 4 fully clothed shots, they show a fully spread pussy in pic 5. The build-up and tease has been ruined. 2. NOT TOO LONG The scene should not be too long. I prefer vid scenes of 15-20 minutes, or pic scenes of 100 pics (solo strip) or 150 pics (BG of GG) unless it's damned good. Better a scene be too short, and leave you wanting more (providing the point of satisifaction has been reached), that it be too long, and leave you wondering when it's going to end 3. POINT OF SATISFACTION Put simply, it's the point at which the shoot's goal is achieved. In a solo pic shoot, it's when you see everything, including some full pussy spreads. In a BG scene, it's usually when the guy cums (after the girl cums, usually), etc. I don't see these as hard and fast rules, but they are a good guideline. I mean, what's the point of a scene if the guy cums in thE second minute, and they spend the rest of the time reading a book?) 4. DECOR & SURROUNDINGS Decor is important. lively, bright and colouful surroundings stimulate the mind, and add to the sensual experience. It varies of course - a scene for teens doing their first porn scene might have bright, cheerful colours, whereas a high-class sseduction scene might feature softer ;ight, ornate drapes, and classy bedclothes. But too many sites have tacky, grotty and messy settings, and usually the photography or videography is of similar quality. You can only get away with this if it is an obviously high-class woman being seduced, say, by the hunky motor mechanic in his greasy, messy garage. 5. SHOOTING AGNLES Shots should vary between close-up and the whole scene. one thing that annoys me (both pics and vids) is where they use sex positions with the sole purpose of displaying the woman's spread pussy (The reverse cowgirl position is OK, because it still allows good movement, and her tits to dounce up and down. But the spooner position has a heap of problems. It's difficult for the couple to appear genuinely erotically absorbed in each other in this position, and cramps movement.) In solo pics, some photographers coninually make the mistake of shooting from above the girl, and shooting totally front on. Not a good angle (see my article about good and bad photography) 6. UNCONVINCING STANDARD FORMULAS Many scenes, even in better quality sites, go through standard formulas, such as the woman squirming and running her hands over her (unexposed) breasts, or 'stabbing', or oral done with a series of single licks. Totally unconvincing; that's why I like amateur models, because they tend not to use these practised formulas. Their nervous excitement shows through, and enhances the erotic feel of the shoot. These are a few points, and I make the greatest possible alloance for the fact that people have different tastes. Eg I'm don't like stilletoes, because they ruin a girls posture, and reduce her mobility. For me, the woman can only be convicing erotically if she's fully mobile. But some scenes may call for stilletoes - eg secretary scenes. However, I was a member of one site which had most other things right - decor, surroundings, lovely models, etc. But they opted for standard formulas, and one of them dictated that no matter where the girl was, she had to wear f*cking stilletoes - in the lounge, by the pool (get real!) or walking in the forest fir Christ's sake! (get real x 2!!). The site had me for one shoot, but lost me after 5. Comments anyone? | |
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| 01-05-09 06:19pm - 5792 days | #2 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
The stiletto thing reminds me of the schoolgirl conversation going on a couple of weeks ago. Another member was saying that he didn't like girls older than 18 dressed as schoolgirls. I'm fine with women in their 30's dressed as schoolgirls, if they're hot. Some women are really into shoe fetishes. When I was a member of Kate's Playground, I had a good time teasing Kate about it cause on every cam show, she'd wear a new pair of psycho crazy heels. Like anything else, it can be well done or poorly done, but I rememeber Karen Dreams doing a vid where she was cursing like a sailor putting on this fairy dress - really frilly and sexy and traipsing out to the woods wearing it with high heels on, trying not to fall - for some reason, the whole thing was a huge turn on. | |
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| 01-06-09 03:23pm - 5791 days | #3 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Couldn't have put it better myself, ramscrota! Every point you make is valid, except when it comes to stiletto heels! :-) | |
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| 01-07-09 10:04am - 5790 days | #4 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User  Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
I definitely agree that the Decor & Surroundings seen in many sets has become tired and overdone. Outdoor sets and distressed sets are extremely common amongst the pros, and bathrooms or kitchens are equally common with the amateurs (largely because these are some of the few rooms in a normal residence with bright overhead lighting). Some studios spend the money to use interesting sets (DDF is a good example) but sadly they tend to be few and far between. Shooting Angles, poses and lighting for that matter, so much depend on the style of the photographer. Push given shove I usually prefer a well lit set - but I've seen some photographers make excellent use of shadows while remaining erotic and staying away from annoying levels of tease. Same goes for shooting angles - most photographers find poses and camera angles that work for them and have to actively fight themselves to keep from repeating them. Often repetitive and unoriginal posing is the fault of the photographer rather than the model. Yes - some models have a natural talent for trying unusual and candid looking poses, but the photographer can do direct the models toward a look - whatever that look may be. Some photographers really perfect the artificial and others revel in the natural. While many photographers haven't found a style that works for them, I don't feel there is any one correct way to do it. I find the "Tease & Excitement" appeal and the "Not Too Long" to be bordering on mutually exclusive. I've seen many a photo set remain interesting a 100 photos in with the model still wearing their underwear. I agree that jumping strait to the pink is a good way to kill a photoset unless the model is absolutely entrancing - but I also stand by the motto of more the merrier as medium sized photo sets in that 100 to 150 range often means the photographer will be leaving a lot of photos out. Sometimes spending so much time with a photo set, looking at the subtle differences between one photo and the next, has a way of immersing you in the fantasy. On the other hand, an extremely careful set of say 20 photos can be plenty if each photo is so perfect it can be framed. I guess my suggestion would be that while it may be better that a set be too short than too long, a set the feels too long likely has much more wrong with it than simply too many photos. One bit I'm rather surprised about is the remark that Stilettos ruin a model's posture. The whole point of high heels is to adjust the model's posture - it tightens up the buttocks and calves, accentuates the curve in the back and pushes the bust forward, et cetera. I'll grant you that platform heels have some models obviously teetering on the edge of their balance, but that is more a comment on the model's lack of experience rather than the footwear. I personally am usually not a fan of the ever present platform heels because they consume so much space visually - they don't accent the leg rather than dominate it. Stilettos I do like though as they can be rather elegant and graceful in design acting as an accessory like well placed earrings, bracelets and so on. The advantage of Stilettos in my opinion is they can keep the models legs looking good in nearly any pose. A model standing completely flat footed may completely render her legs bland as the muscles relax and the leg widens. Of course, Stilettos can be avoided by simply having the model stand on tippy-toe. Lastly, more an aside than anything else - point number 3, the "Point of Satisfaction", that was simply defined and then not much was said about it - was the idea that it should come at the end of the set as implied in the video analogy? "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 01-07-09 01:13pm - 5790 days | #5 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
If I hadn't been so tired yesterday that's exactly what I would have written, except less eloquently. :-) | |
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| 01-07-09 06:35pm - 5790 days | #6 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I think ramscrota dislike of stilettos is in reference to video footage. Sadly stilettos are great when the person is not moving, but very few women can pull off a good walk wearing heels that are like needles. Of course those that do can really had some sexyness to a scene. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 01-07-09 06:40pm - 5790 days | #7 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
You'll notice most European girls are fine in Stilettos - damn American fashion for doing away with traditional heels and Stilettos for platform sandals - damn damn damn them! An a different point - what the hell is Erotic Sensitivity anyway? (Assuming he didn't really mean "erptic" of course.) "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 01-07-09 07:21pm - 5790 days | #8 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
x Edited on Apr 20, 2023, 02:21pm | |
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| 01-07-09 07:32pm - 5790 days | #9 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
Or maybe its Latin for "smells fuzzy and tangy with a hint of purple", or even Yiddish slang for "I thought I left that next that refrigerator that is painted to look like a Giraffe." Then again, it could be a simple descriptor used by Mongolian tribesman that means "Needs Velcro". "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 06-18-12 12:55pm - 4532 days | #10 | |
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Mrk7 (0)
Active User Posts: 6 Registered: Jun 18, '12 |
As far as Erotic Video's fake breast are what kill it for me. It ruins the imagination of an everyday women (or wife) letting loose. The girl acting too loud. Or trying "too hard" I noticed in new porn. In the classic era all the ladies were soft, innocent looking, but dirty at the same time. The scenes where someone gets seduced is high an considered erotic to me. Sadly it's almost impossible to find any good content like that these days that is "believable" | |
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| 06-18-12 01:12pm - 4532 days | #11 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
Holy hell, this is one old thread to revive, lol. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 06-19-12 08:43am - 4531 days | #12 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Wow, look at the dinosaur in the building, lol not you Toad I mean the thread hehehe ! Since 2007 | |
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