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| 03-23-10 09:56pm - 5349 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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jd1961 (0)
Active User  Posts: 296 Registered: Jun 07, '07 |
American Porn Is Focused On The Male Taking a good long look at the stuff I have downloaded the past few years (I got a new pc, so I had to organize everything), the common denominator I noticed about American porno is that it is now completely focused on the male. The slapping, the spitting, the violent sex positions,the caveman like hair pulling, the endless playing with their own dicks, every single video ending with the male pushing the girl away and gratifying himself complete with primal screaming as he masturbates once again for you the paying customer, the endless closeups of the males' faces, the angles that make it seem like you are pleasuring the male, the males' endless, pointless, banal chatter, and did I mention, the endless video coverage of males masturbating themselves, not to mention the males always wrecking the girls' appearances---their hair, their makeup, their dignity, I can't pay for this garbage any longer. I know Japanese are smarter than we Americans, but porno isn't hard to make! They understand it, we don't. I can live with the mosaic. Edited on Mar 23, 2010, 10:02pm | |
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| 03-24-10 12:22am - 5349 days | #2 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I think it's just to fulfill the primarily male audience's fantasy of 'Yeah, that could be me in there!'--thus you get a lot of attention on the male participant. I don't mind the occasional witty comment or ass slap but what I do mind is much of what you already mentioned; the abuse, the self-tug o' war to the cumshot, and, yes, those stupid cuts to the dude in pure ecstasy (or is it agony, because he's screaming really loud) as he completes his part of the bargain. I don't really understand the overall abuse aspect myself. Max Hardcore did it and perfected it, so why not leave it to him or whoever takes over if he never gets back in the business once he's released from prison? Why take it and put it in every single scene out there? The girls grace the DVD covers, the posters, pretty much the whole shebang, so why not let them finish the scene with at least a hint of dignity? Or just stop having the makeup girls apply eyeliner because it's going to be running and smeared in a matter of minutes. Oddly enough I found that if you want to really focus on the girl then you have to start looking at POV scenes. Yes they're from the guy's POV but you rarely have to see his sweaty mug or hairy ass and since he's got one hand holding the camera he can't start beating the shit out of his partner. If I am in a certain mood and I want my porn light but still technically hardcore these one-on-one POV scenes can do the trick because it's usually just the cameraman/actor alone with a pretty girl who's more often than not all smiles and giggles through to the end. The ones where the girl swallows are even nicer because it keeps the dude from plastering her pretty face as if he's attempting to frost a cinnamon roll. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Mar 26, 2010, 02:34pm | |
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| 03-24-10 01:07am - 5349 days | #3 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
I recently watched a video of Breanne Benson, one of the darlings of my photo collection starting back when she was just nude model, being giving the rough treatment by this puffed-muscled -- and possibly 'roid-raging -- asshole. The video was like a checklist of the mean male-focused shit you're talking about. Breanne still has her beautiful looks. Never needed the back tat or the blondy hair, btw, but hey that's porn, at least according to the conventional "porn wisdom." (A-hem.) JD, I hate it as much as you do, and I won't waste my time on it as long as I can avoid it. Sometimes you don't know what you're in for until you've gotten into it. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Mar 24, 2010, 01:20am | |
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| 03-24-10 07:10am - 5349 days | #4 | |
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markymark (0)
Suspended Posts: 28 Registered: Jan 04, '10 Location: Fleming Island, FL USA |
I agree with you 100% on this one. American and European b/g porn is unwatchable these days. There is way too much emphasis on the males and their violent, self-absorbed behavior. What I would like to know is: Who really likes this shit? Who are they making it for? This is not a separate porn niche that you have to look for if you want it. No, this crap permeates the majority of b/g porn produced over the past 2-3 years. There is no escaping it! MarkyMark Edited on Mar 24, 2010, 07:15am | |
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| 03-24-10 08:12am - 5349 days | #5 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User  Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
I am starting to think we are all the exceptions on here. 99.5 per cent of porn lovers are completely different and we are the ones who have tastes that no one caters for. It's as though we are standing on the shore trying to hold back the tide, because no matter what we say, that same old shit seems to sell. The more of the actions you have just described, I see, the more it annoys me, yet there is nothing any of us can do about it. It's like trying to get a French classic film that isn't dubbed on prime time televison. It's like poor old Messmer's simple wants - a site with middle aged women, wearing just normal clothes or some simple lingerie, stripping down to naked. Sounds sipmle, just like trying to get a b/g scene where the male doesn't slap the girl's ass. The more I see it, the more I take notice of it, and the more it annoys me. Have to agree with JD though. American porn is far worse for this | |
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| 03-24-10 08:18am - 5349 days | #6 | |
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Cpmx54 (0)
Active User Posts: 42 Registered: Oct 09, '09 Location: USA |
I'm sick of the camera suddenly turning away and looking straight at the guy's face right in the middle of a scene. talk about a mood killer. the only "thing" i'm interested in seeing on a guy in B/G scene is his dick. i don't want to see his face, and i certainly don't want those "under the leg" shots where I inadvertently end up seeing straight up the guy's ass. I'm a guy, seeing another guy's asshole is about as a big a turn-on as watching a cow take a shit. And what's with the guy finishing himself off at the end of every goddamn scene? I'll put it this way.. never in my life have I had a girlfriend giving me a blowjob, and then right at the end felt the urge to pull it out and jerk myself off for the finale. I could just as easily do that without a girl present. The better alternative? Watching the girl give a blowjob, and then finishing the guy off herself, using her hand, and her mouth... As far as I'm concerned, the guy's hands shouldn't even be part of the scene. He is a prop, he should stand there and let the girl do all (or most of) the work. | |
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| 03-24-10 10:06am - 5349 days | #7 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Here I go again with the unpopular response. 1. the reason why we see more male shots in the USA is because of EGO. The women are often hired for places like Brazzers etc. Yet the same muscle headed ego centric Male is there. It's because they are wanting two fold results, making money and suppling themselves with there own fantasy. Ever record you and your SO anyone ???? Why did you do it ? So you could watch how hot you think you were. The same is here. They actually make fools of the consumer. Because we keep buying this crap. I have been a member here and everyone keeps saying tell the guys to shut the hell up. Has it worked ? No because they want to dominate and control a girl they couldn't have unless they paid for it. 2. Many of the directors/ego boy friends are the Directors / producers. Need I say more ? I do not like seeing a guy much in the scene, ever wonder why POV's are so popular. If the guy actually shuts up POV can be great. Its Ego driven system is why we see what we do is my opinion. Toad Since 2007 | |
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| 03-24-10 07:15pm - 5348 days | #8 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
You can add bolt-ons to the sad list of things Breanne did not need to improve her looks. I guess those had to come if she wanted to move into the gonzo world. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 03-24-10 07:20pm - 5348 days | #9 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
The problem is that it's no longer reserve to just American porn because it's the same for porn made Overseas. Most of what I've downloaded in the last few months whether from American or European sites has had many scenes of a girl on her knees in a subservient pose just waiting to satisfy her master. I guess that's why lesbian porn is still what I most enjoy Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 03-24-10 07:50pm - 5348 days | #10 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
The aggression is also one of the reasons I'm always stuck for finding new sites to check out. It's just too prevalent on the popular sites. It's less common on amateur sites but there are just too damn few of those that appeal to me (for other reasons). Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
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| 03-24-10 09:17pm - 5348 days | #11 | |
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Uberpimp (0)
Suspended Webmaster Posts: 1 Registered: Mar 24, '10 |
Yeah, consider this: 1. Porn is about money. 2. Most people paying for porn are male, that can't fulfil their fantasies in real lives. 3. Most customers have wifes/gf that are not fulfilling their needs. Porn is not really cheating so it's borderline tolerated. Single dudes just get a whore. 4. They will not pay for stuff they can do with their wifes/gf. And hence, you get the porn these dads are paying for. Now, as far as Asian Porn goes: By far most disgusting stuff I've seen was Asian. American Porn is primitive European porn is funny/grotesque Asian porn is disgusting That's professional porn. Amateur porn is just amateur everywhere, but I believe the real gems are there. Largest Adult Video Collection www.sleekporn.com | |
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| 03-24-10 10:03pm - 5348 days | #12 | |
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WeeWillyWinky (0)
Active User  Posts: 243 Registered: Jun 03, '07 Location: Havasu City, AZ USA |
I've resolved my ongoing issues with modern porn by ignoring it completely. I still enjoy pic collecting as well as downloading good solo-female video, but finding sites which aren't fixated on masturbation is getting more and more difficult, hence my lack of participation at this site of late. Even in the absence of tattooed thugs we are beaten over the heads continuously with the Almighty Phallus. I've been watching films. Sophia Loren, in her heyday, was truly the most beautiful woman in the world! edit: And dammit if Johnny Depp hasn't overtaken Oliver Reed as my favorite actor! You know what I hate the most about selfish people? It's that they don't think enough about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! Edited on Mar 24, 2010, 10:08pm | |
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| 03-25-10 04:51am - 5348 days | #13 | |
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hodayathink (0)
Active User Posts: 312 Registered: Mar 27, '09 Location: Illinois |
I know she's talked about getting them, but when did she actually do it? I've seen her with the past two months and I don't think she had them. | |
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| 03-25-10 07:01am - 5348 days | #14 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
Bolt-ons!! On Breanne! Argghhhhh! It's like an arrow through my romantic, Breanne-inspired heart. Let's hope they don't make her lose those big beautiful eyes. At ALS Angels, they said that she had "massive perfect natural tits." No need for a beefup at all! I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Mar 25, 2010, 07:06am | |
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| 03-25-10 09:35am - 5348 days | #15 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Thanks, Squirrel, for remembering me. And I'm still looking for that site! :-( And I agree with previous posters when it comes to those grunting, shouting gorillas as they masturbate over a model's face, or those immature children cruising around looking for their next "victim," boasting of their prowess and treating every woman as an object. I know those things are staged but it annoys the hell out of me when they high five over another "conquest" and carry on with their school boy banter and macho cameraderie. Many must like it though or we wouldn't see these scenes endlessly repeated. | |
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| 03-25-10 11:27am - 5348 days | #16 | |
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ControllingMind (0)
Suspended  Posts: 52 Registered: Jan 29, '09 Location: Inside An Unseen Force |
I agree with cybertoad. The male stars think they are good actors. The actors/producers etc are friends. The Brazzers guys have an ego and like to goof around wasting part of the movie. Now with large HD movies its wasting a lot of disk space. Keiran Lee has even said he wants to do mainstream work. I hope not, I've seen enough of that pot bellied wimp mesing about on scenes already, without him also being on the regular screen. | |
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| 03-25-10 08:08pm - 5347 days | #17 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
Here is a link with a couple of pics. http://contactpornstars.blogs.com/news/2...e-swift-benefit.html Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 03-25-10 10:52pm - 5347 days | #18 | |
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hodayathink (0)
Active User Posts: 312 Registered: Mar 27, '09 Location: Illinois |
When in doubt, check Twitter: http://twitter.com/bart0522/status/10599602976 @BREANNEBENSON do we have new boobies? http://twitter.com/BREANNEBENSON/status/10599655189 @bart0522 no it was the bra padding lol You should be safe. For now. I think. | |
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| 03-26-10 08:01am - 5347 days | #19 | |
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nostromo (0)
Active User Posts: 131 Registered: Sep 22, '07 Location: madrid/spain |
Great post. Porn fans are contetious. i worked on a study on domestic violence a few years ago. I had to read countless court rulings/judgement books spanning from 1950 to 1980 to find factual elements that would qualify as domestic violence crimes nowadays. there was a militar dictatorship going on in Spain at the time, heavily influenced by the Church. well, much to the surprise of the socioligists that worked with us, the numbers had increased since then, despite of democracy and the resulting modernisation of our country. It is not a spanish singularity, scandinavian countries, for instance, have higher numbers believe it or not. IMHO, it is very disturbing for men to realize that women are now their equals. Some attribute the rise of murders amongst women at their hands of their husbands/lovers/whatever to other facts, such as a very permisive law, i disagree. As a side note, i son't like dp's, circus acts, fisting, etc, but to each their own, i don't think that i'm smarter or more refined than dp fans, and, i'm probably one of the very few pornusers who finds softcore, for the most part, downright boring and pretentious. Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy. H.L. Mencken. | |
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| 03-26-10 10:02am - 5347 days | #20 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
You went straight to the point, Uberpimp, though I am not sure if we're all dads! The fantasy/reality deficit is likely very large for a lot of guys out there particularly the ones who feel that it's bad enough that they need to resolve it, whether it be through porn, affairs, casual encounters, or what have have you. I think sexual dissatisfaction is relatively easy to address or at least nurse in a harmless way. Minus credit card fraud and an upset partner--which isn't really fair and I'll explain in a minute--I think turning to some porn to make up for the emotional, psychological, and even physical limits of reality is understandable. Compare the ease of buying porn to other problems; it's a lot harder to address issues you may be having with the size of your income, house, car, gut, hairline, etc. without more money and a longer commitment and even then you may not get very far. Plus if you understand your sexual fantasies to be true fantasies and not something you would actually want in real life than the prevalence of aggressive male-focused porn starts to make sense. It does make me feel sorry for all the women who are on the receiving end of our fantasy/their reality simply because we would never slap or choke our significant other but are okay watching it happen to the stars. :-( Also I don't even think porn is "not really cheating." It's not cheating at all--period! I am not asking women to openly embrace our love of dirty pictures and movies but accusing us of thought-crimes is just bullshit. When it turns to action then they can get mad, but a thought or fantasy is not where the problems are. Sadly I doubt most women can resolve their sexual frustrations as easily as men. Not only is the vast majority of porn catered to men but the mechanical and physical aspects of sex that it focuses on don't seem be the way in which women fantasize. Yes, I am sure plenty of women dream up things that we do see played out in porn but if they are having more emotional fantasies then those can be pretty difficult to depict in porn. When's the last time you watched a behind the scenes feature and heard the director saying to his cast "Emote! Emote! You guys need to act out what you're feeling in your hearts, not in your genitals!"? (Man, this is a long reply, I guess I should have focused it more.) "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 03-26-10 10:36am - 5347 days | #21 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
The problem is their insecurity. I've heard the same story from others but, in my own life, I've found that the women who were the most vocal in their opposition to porn displayed other signs of insecurity. Things like giving you the third degree when you're 15 minutes late coming home, making sure to comment anytime you talk to woman and frequently making disparaging remarks about other women's looks. If it wasn't so sad, I'd laugh - I see women scutinizing other women harder than guys do. Always sizing up the competition. I find all that shit intolerable now. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
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| 03-26-10 01:06pm - 5347 days | #22 | |
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larss (0)
Disabled User Posts: 50 Registered: Mar 20, '10 Location: London |
A lot of porn seems to have lost the eroticism that you used to get. Glimpses of flesh, pretty/sexy underwear, even when they are worn seem to disappear far too quickly. I love to see see-through panties, and to see through them, but all too often when they are worn, the whole point of them is lost when they are removed without the viewer being given that glance of pussy through the transparent material. I do like hardcore sex scenes, but I often get the feeling that they could be far more erotic than - get naked, fuck in various impossible positions, wank cum onto the girls face. | |
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| 03-26-10 01:32pm - 5347 days | #23 | |
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Miss Hybrid (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 77 Registered: Mar 21, '10 Location: England |
I used to watch lots of porn and I have a huge collection. I tend stick to watching my old classic collections. I don't like the rough stuff and trying to hammer the girls. I don't find it erotic There are some fantastic productions by Marc Dorcel that I have seen.Erotic, sexy and glamourous. Still hardcore but lit and photographed with style. Really classy locations and girls that dont look bored. It should be fun to watch, it should be fun to make. | |
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| 03-26-10 01:52pm - 5347 days | #24 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I agree completely, larss. Many of us in this forum have complained about the same thing. We call it the lack of the tease factor in modern porn. I wrote in a post only two days ago in another forum that it aggravated me to see models wear sexy panties and then you barely got a flash of them because they bent over and removed them in record time. | |
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| 03-26-10 03:48pm - 5347 days | #25 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
I don't think we're going to get much tease anymore. This is the age where products are made as cheaply as possible to maximize profit. So porn has been pared down to just the sex act, without all the varied sets and plots we saw in the 70's and 80's classic porn. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
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| 03-26-10 04:00pm - 5347 days | #26 | |
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Miss Hybrid (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 77 Registered: Mar 21, '10 Location: England |
RB, That's why I love the older stuff. Not to keen on the minges though. If you have the time have a look at some Marc Dorcel videos. they are well done. I like to watch porn with some glamour. I hate the chavtastic over acted, fake moans, mass produced stuff. I think that, in time, it will go full circle. Well I hope. | |
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| 03-29-10 07:50am - 5344 days | #27 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
I read all the respondents and I have to say a guy just pounding away as if he was using a FleshLight, is boring, some scenes could be way better if the guys would just shut up. These guys many hardly graduated from highschool and are now instant directors. The best directors are those whom let their passion be scene, Catalina Cruz, does allot of her own directing and it shows especially in her Lez scenes. And when I say passion, I mean for the work to look good and to catch the viewers eyes. Some times the guys just pan right to to boobs, but the women tend to do bits of the body and entice you to view more, and they will giver you more. Since 2007 | |
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| 03-30-10 01:40pm - 5343 days | #28 | |
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pinkerton (0)
Active User  Posts: 151 Registered: Jan 13, '07 Location: UK |
The only problem I have with POV is that you don't get as good views of the girl that you'd get otherwise. I'd be interested in knowing whether the porn makers read these forums and if they do, have they tried incorporating any of the positive suggestions. | |
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| 03-30-10 04:24pm - 5343 days | #29 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
I’m not sure where I stand in the debate over degrading women in porn. Well, actually I do know where I stand, but that may appear to shift depending on your perspective. I’m generally anti-degrading women in porn. It isn’t a turn on for me. I agree with some of you (at least I think that some alluded to this) that this is a bit of a generational thing. It seems some of the ‘reality’ sites go for degradation in a big way. The woman is merely a prop on which the guy can flex his muscles – literally and figuratively. For me, this is the opposite of the way I like my porn. I think the guy is just a stage prop and his focus should be on doing everything he can to make the girl better on camera. Males should shut up and be seen as little as possible. This degradation thing seems to have been going on for a long time though. I remember hearing a lot of buzz when Anabolic released “Rough Sex” way back in 1999. I suspect that their plan was to release this as a series like they do with so many other titles, but they got such pushback after “Rough Sex 2” that they dropped the idea. The issue (as I recall it) is that the series’ entire aim was to be verbally and physically abusive toward the women and then fuck them in a verbally and physically abusive way. That crossed a line in mainstream porn when it came out, and still comes close to crossing a line. I think the issue was that many of the women seemed ill-informed of what was going to happen. The most notorious crisis was when Regan Starr broke down in tears at the start of her scene – and the editors chose to leave that in. My recollection was that Anabolic eventually pulled the series, but either my recollection is wrong or they’ve changed their minds since I’ve seen it available on some VOD sites. Anyway, all that to say that I don’t support the degrading tone much porn takes towards women, BUT… as a fan of BDSM stuff I have to make a case as to why BDSM can’t be lumped in with some of the degrading crap that is out there. I know a lot of PU members are fans of softcore stuff. I am too, so I get that. But if that is all you’re in to, then I can understand you thinking that BDSM is degrading. But it isn’t when done right. Yes, the women are bound, and often flogged or caned and sometimes even degraded. But it is done within the context of consensual BDSM play. BDSM for the sub is a means of exploring the interest of being immobilized or bound, and made to submit to someone else. The men or women who are dominant when this stuff is done right are not degrading the women, unless that is part of the consensual play. There are sites that do BDSM very well. Any site within the Kink Network (The Training of O, Sex and Submission, Device Bondage) or Dungeoncorp (Society SM, Perfect Slave, Fucking Dungeon) may not be to your liking, but they are not degrading. I think the difference between sites like Kink and Dungeoncorp versus some of the reality sites is that the former degrade specific women in consensual BDSM play for the benefit of that woman who enjoys that role play. The latter, the reality sites, just treat the women as extras and use that one model to demonstrate their disdain for women generally. Anyway, this was too long and rambling, and even a bit off-topic, but to sum up: not all rough or degrading porn is equal. You may not like it, but there is good stuff out there. | |
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| 03-30-10 07:51pm - 5342 days | #30 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
My taste in porn is varied like my taste in books, movies, TV shows and food so I understand where you come from. I don't lump all BSDM sites under the title degrading to women, but there are a couple that I cannot and will not watch because I think they are. For the most part all the Kink sites are more into pushing a woman's pain/pleasure level rather than humiliating her. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 03-31-10 11:05pm - 5341 days | #31 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
My thinking with BDSM is that the degradation is in the eyes of the offended viewer, not the 'poor' women (or men) on screen. Though this category uses a lot of language and emotion to imply it's all abusive, humiliating, degrading, etc. it's really the pinnacle of consent in porn. How often does regular ol' porn use safe words and discuss what performers are willing and, most importantly, are not willing to do beforehand? I have seem more times than I care to remember non-BDSM porn where at least one of the performers--the female one close to 99% of the time--make it pretty clear that she is not into what's going on. This doesn't happen the whole way through mind you, but there are plenty of videos where a performer voices her dissent over something, whether it be through body language, speaking, or just plain pushing the dude away from her. Granted I know next to nothing about the actual production of a typical porn shoot but you would have to argue a pretty strong case of why a woman would want to act that way even if only for a few moments. In BDSM scenes it's assumed that the ladies who show up to perform know that they are not there to hug and kiss and act out a romantic love story with some penetration thrown in. They know their tolerance levels and know what to say and do before things ever get out of hand. Likewise the audience should not be too surprised when people start getting tied up, slapped, whipped, and 'humiliated.' "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 03-31-10 11:17pm - 5341 days | #32 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
I agree Turbo, I think in general people are no happy when its clear, like you mentioned that someone is not wanting to be there. Which sucks because the shoot will reflect it too.  Since 2007 | |
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| 04-02-10 07:49pm - 5339 days | #33 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
True the views in POV content are not as good as the non-POV stuff but I think the appeal is pretty obvious for a couple of reasons, both related to how and/or what you view; 1.) It's the POV of, normally but not always, the guy doing the pretty girl, hence it's a little closer to the fantasy so many of us have of bumping uglies with our favorite performer. Granted it may not be your wet noodle up there on screen whacking away at her holiest of holeys but it's better than watching from the more traditional third person perspective if you prefer the 'interactionist' feel. 2.) And like I mentioned earlier if it's the dude's POV then it's not the cameraman's POV which more often than not will be straddled by the male performer and way too far up his sweating thighs and way too close to his backdoor. If you're watching POV and somehow the camera ends up under his ass then he's either an extreme contortionist (even for a porn star) or the video just needs some more editing. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 04-02-10 08:41pm - 5339 days | #34 | |
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Goldfish (0)
Active User  Posts: 265 Registered: Jan 19, '08 Location: Boston, MA |
I've had many of the same thoughts about American porn in the past. I do think there is a glimmer of hope for the American porn industry. Little Mutt, for example, is almost the polar opposite of what jd describes in the original post. Much of the video revolves around pleasing the woman and female orgasms. I recently joined a newer site called Fucked Hard 18. It's a guy in a California studio massaging and having sex with women. Many of the vids have the money shot at the end but there is plenty of camera time focused on the woman enjoying the massage and the sex. Maybe the age of the grunting gorilla is coming to an end. LOL. | |
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