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| 12-20-08 12:38pm - 5846 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
Indoor/outdoor Just do not remember: Have we had this discussion before? (sorry if so, but could not locate it): Are there too much outdoor photosets/videos at pornsites - both softcore and hardcore? An exampel that Mr. Fountain brought up in this users search for a specific model - the hint was: Femjoy This site still has some magnificent girls - just a shame too much photosets/videos are made outdoors - in sand, water, mud and so on..Why? The same goes for the great Met Art - lately - and some other typical soft eastern-euro girl-sites Does a lot of PUs and pornusers in general have all those fantasies about girls in those situations? This user finds it boring... Some hc (b/g) outdoor stuff are made in some small extend on a lot of sites and here the fantasies may cope - most have fucked in nature (at least in our younger days) - but all those scenes with solo-models "swimming in a lake" or rolling around in sand (and mud) - is that something that turns on? "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" | |
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| 12-20-08 01:03pm - 5846 days | #2 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
I think it's just a way of expanding the vocabulary of porn. Every one has shot indoors since porn started so I guess producers think that we want to see something different now so their taking it outdoors ... besides it saves on set costs. I have no great love of outdoor content because the production value tends to be lower (all sorts of shadows and weird lighting) and it tends to mostly be softcore. It's OK once in a while but not as a serious trend for me. However, if the girl is smokin' hot and the scene is well shot I don't think it really matters where its' shot. Edited on Dec 21, 2008, 12:33pm | |
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| 12-20-08 04:14pm - 5846 days | #3 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
I would imagine that scheduling outdoor shoots that have good light is a logistical challenge. The models have to be scheduled probably before the actual weather conditions are really known. Clouds move and the light changes constantly before, during, and after a shoot. I don't like it when heavy shadows show up on the models being shot outdoors. This happens at HegreArt sometimes, but he seems to like the interaction of shadow on the girl's curves anyway. I must say that I'm generally more satisfied with the way they're done at MPL Studios and the stuff that shows up at TeenDreams and Babelicious. But even so, sets shot at dusk are a turn off because of all of the shadow, lack of light, and loss of color. I love a gorgeous sunset just as much as anyone, but not when it makes it hard to enjoy Peaches' peaches. And then we can add other factors: sand, mud, dirt, grass, and "critters." I don't care for pics of girls dipped in sand batter as if they're some kind of porn tempura, but I do remember once when Linda O'Neil's site was active and she'd fulfilled a request for a pic of herself wearing a coating of the stuff on her lovely backside. Grass is OK, but not when a big shaft of it is upstaging the girl's ass. I hate that, and I've seen it more times than I care to remember. But I've not seen it much recently. I'm pretty sure we had a discussion about this before in response to a poll question, but I couldn't find the poll (did several searches). Maybe someone was reading? ;) OK, so tall grass is not OK. Getting back to MPL, they do "at dusk" sets sometimes; I usually skip them. And one recent one of Anya got pared down real good by yours truly once I'd dissed all of the ones of her wearing pieces of seaweed. Eccchh! And then there's "critters." Flies know where the goodies are. I've had to discard pics thanks to our little 6-legged friends posing along the crack of delightful babes such as Evelyn Lory (if memory serves me). The photographer probably just didn't notice the fly, or flies, messing up the shot. But if they are noticed, I suppose they could bring out fly swatters and then things would get kinda kinky. ;) Outdoor sets are OK, but sometimes the "creativity" needs more careful consideration. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Dec 20, 2008, 04:21pm | |
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| 12-20-08 09:02pm - 5846 days | #4 | |
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jd1961 (0)
Active User  Posts: 296 Registered: Jun 07, '07 |
I hate photo shoots on boulders! Femjoy is often guilty of this. I hate photo shoots where the model is covered in dirt! Again, Femjoy is often guilty of this, and I have told them so often! For some reason, the only outdoor shoots I like are in a fall setting, I guess because of the colors. And seeing as I'm about to get hit with another blizzard, I do not like shoots in snow! As far as hardcore is concerned, this is gross, but I remember seeing videos shot outdoors where there were flies buzzing around where you would not want them buzzing! Never for HC. Edited on Dec 20, 2008, 09:07pm | |
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| 12-20-08 11:55pm - 5846 days | #5 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User  Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
My guess for the number 1 reason why so many sites resort to outdoor shoots is it is one less cost in the production of the content. As Drooler pointed out, weather can be an issue, but lighting is actually more workable than you might expect. For example, the best weather condition for accurate colors and soft shadows is solid cloud cover. Bright sunny days will require at least one assistant to hold a diffusing umbrella over the model. Professional photographers like those used by Sports Illustrated will often have upwards of 5 assistants helping with the lighting by holding reflectors, light diffusing umbrellas, external flash units and so on. Sunsets will probably require at least two flash units. Still, renting a studio, or a fancy room (let alone a full building) for your set can be quite expensive, even if it is only for a few hours - and in Europe there are tons of good outside locations where you won't get arrested for having a naked model running about. Abby Winters gets around this problem by frequently shooting at the model's own flat - providing both diversity of set and comfort for the model (especially important due to their extensive use of amateur models). I must give props to DDF Productions with their sites like Hands on Hardcore as they seem to frequently rent nice locations for their productions. I generally prefer indoor to outdoor, but like sites to explore with both. The only thing I'd really like to see producers take a break on is the use of distressed sets like dilapidated builds, broken cars, drift wood, et cetera. That has been done so much that it has lost all of the edginess that it once had. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 12-21-08 02:26am - 5846 days | #6 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
I like that term "distressed sets." I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 12-21-08 05:05am - 5845 days | #7 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
Though Toadsith is right about the fact that: "in Europe there are tons of good outside locations where you won't get arrested for having a naked model running about". ...I still think these outdoor shootings are getting somewhat out of line. Well, like Ze Droolah (his own invention, try to pronounce it, funny!) states about tall grass and a model covered in sand - why? Is that fancy in some sort of smart way - nada. And like JD says: A model covered in dirt... Also from Toadsith: The fact that DDF generally has fine indoor locations puts them back on my toplist...compared. Been having a fun weekend with another turn at Met Art, BUT I'll now downgrade my score for Met Art, after all - too much of that stuff mentioned above... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" | |
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| 12-21-08 05:18am - 5845 days | #8 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
I do agree with Denner that MetArt's been doing too much outdoor stuff lately, though I did like the most recent sets of Susie Carina and Euphrat. The sand was kept off Euphrat enough that I could enjoy, and Susie was on a rocky "beach." But those girls can carry a scene so well you kinda forget about where it is. But even the MetArt indoor scenes can be a bummer sometimes. Enough with the girl in a big dark puddle of water on the floor and light shining through the spray and all that. Jeez! I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 12-21-08 06:26am - 5845 days | #9 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
Allow me to take this a little further - just some thoughts browsing the heck of a lot of sites I'm in lately (gotta slow down in order not to ruin family-financies): But just went through pix and video and 1ByDay and Amour Babes - to mention some: I cannot imagine models like Sonya, Jo, Candy Strong or Doris - all here from pix and video rolling around in dirt or high turf (grass, I guess). What about the everlasting Eve - alomst all Eves stuff is made indoor in some kind of "sexy surrounding". Swett Eve in mud or sand or lake-water up to her thighs - no way. If it's outdoor, it's still done in some tasty (sexy)way. And imagine a new trend at 1ByDay with endless outdoor footage/videos - can not. And my "old" favorite, NU Dolls, has lately updated with almost only outdoor scenes - what's the world comming to when you cannot rely on sites that used to display sexy outfits - high heels, among others - that is replaced by sand, water and mud. So bottom line: It could end up with divided sites for us users: The indoor-fans and the outdoor-fans. Bet the first will attract most costumers... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" | |
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| 12-21-08 08:09am - 5845 days | #10 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
What Denner is saying reminds me of my response to FM-Teens after I ended my membership there. The stuff that followed, at least for some time, was nearly all being done outdoors, and that was one reason I decided to hold off on rejoining, the high price being another. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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