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05-26-17  12:41pm - 2767 days #6
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Originally Posted by A K :


Have you checked out Vintage Classic Porn? They have stuff from the 20s through to the 80s. Could be worth a look.

Hope that helps

AK


Sadly, yes. I just put up a dismal review. If the content was accessible, it might be a decent site. However, the site is fraught with broken links and lots of other unpleasantries. First time I asked for my money back and got it -- no threats, I just sent them links to all the broken files to videos downloads.

I'm thinking of vintage cuties. I really like this stuff and would like to add some content to my collection. Unfortunately, neither vintage classic porn or vintage cuties was reviewed recently by TBP (or anyone else), though the TBP review isn't that old.

I'm all ears if you have other suggestions. Thanks!

05-25-17  11:26am - 2768 days #191
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Originally Posted by Amanda:


It seems the price is displayed as 19.95 euros on the initial join page. If you click "next" on the VXSBilling page, you're taken to the CC page and there the only price available is 14.95 euros. Hope this helps!


Tricky bastids! Thanks!

05-25-17  10:48am - 2768 days #189
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Originally Posted by mbaya:


I see the discounted price. Please double check.


How did you get it? I entered the site from the PU review page, the same page that states the discounted offer, 15.95 euros - I think that's the discounted price. When I click "visit the site" from PU and then click join on the Vintage Classic site, the offer is 19.95 euros. What are you doing differently? I'm going through the same steps I always go through to join sites listed on PU.

05-25-17  06:19am - 2768 days #187
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Please note - Vintage Classic Porn does not offer the TBP discount as stated.

05-25-17  05:45am - 2768 days #164
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Thank you. It all makes sense now and I like the system. Except for last week. -)

05-24-17  09:11am - 2769 days #162
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First off, congrats to all 3 winners and my comments are not meant to take anything away from them. On the contrary, I'm a lowly newcomer comparatively with a fraction of the reviews. However, as a consumer as well as an accountant, I want to understand the rationale of the system, if there is any.

Last week I led in points. That should take any subjectivity out of choosing the winner. I guess Amanda hates me, haha.

05-24-17  07:00am - 2769 days #158
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This may seem a bit ingracious. It's not intended to be so. I'll admit upfront that I do reviews not only because I enjoy doing so, but I also like winning the raffle. Hence, my question.

I've asked before about how raffle winners are chosen and perhaps I am thick or am misunderstanding the answers. Amanda's private response to me not long ago stated the winners are chosen by an automated system dependent on the amount of points they have accrued. That's a simple enough explanation, however...

This past week, I had 4 points, at least tied with one other person for the top spot but didn't win anything. I did not win the previous week which I believe makes me eligible to be in the drawing.

Second, how does an automated system choose between more than 1 person who have the same number of points? That happens frequently. I'm guessing subjectivity and human intervention has to play a part.

Again, sorry if this seems greedy or uncouth.

05-21-17  06:13am - 2772 days #4
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I love the 50s stuff. However, I would love to find a site with some really old stuff, 1920s through the 1950s. Thanks for any leads!

05-16-17  03:14pm - 2777 days #3
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I hear ya! You're preaching to the choir. Everyone's tired of hearing me bellyaching about the sorry state of porn.

I don't know you're taste, but if it's different you're looking for, ersties may be of interest. I recently reviewed it.

On the subject of ancient, I keep meaning to ask for a recommendation of a good vintage site. I'm looking for hardcore 50s and earlier videos.

Happy hunting!

05-16-17  05:15am - 2777 days #14
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In my opinion, the porn industry, in particular pay for porn sites, need to shoulder at least part if not most of the blame for their dilemma. And it is a costly problem for them as I am certain it is more expensive to do business with special credit card processors. I'll take a wild guess that they're paying in the area of 5% to the processors, a couple of points higher than other industries. [Rates differ depending on the industry.]

I'm guessing pre-checked cross-sales and recurring memberships frequently result in credit card disputes, This has the effect of labeling the merchant as high risk.

I also frequently have a problem with being declined by my credit card company, mastercard and visa. Every bank has different proprietary and automated rules in order to pass the sniff test. But as you say, generally all you need do is contact your bank or credit card company to allow the charge.

I think you also have a good point that another reason for processors not wanting to do business with the porn industry is the stigma. And I'm guessing, many of these companies are not legitimate, at least globally. As Amanda pointed out, the reason that porn businesses sometimes use more than one credit card processor is to serve different geographic reasons which may have different laws concerning porn.

05-15-17  06:35pm - 2778 days #12
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I'm going to edit the last list as needed instead of posting a new list any time there's a change.

Based on LPee's comments about CentroBill in the thread that mbaya posted as well as a confirmation that I received from CentroBill today that my membership was cancelled in the site I joined on Saturday, I'm also changing CentroBill's status. That will leave only one non-trusted processor - that can't be accurate.

Also, regarding CentroBill, I also assume that not every company has the resources that Epoch and CCBill has to handle issues in the same expedient manner.

Anyway, I'm still baffled how the porn site / processor relationship works. It seems to be different than any other industry. I assume one of the reasons, if not the primary reason, has to do with my assumption that regular" processors don't want to do business with the porn industry. Porn business is probably considered too high risk in the respect that there are more than the usual chargebacks and/or companies going out of business. Edited on May 15, 2017, 06:39pm

05-15-17  12:45pm - 2778 days #9
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Originally Posted by Amanda:


Hey! We do list billers a site uses on TBP and RR as well as cross sales, but true, we can't usually speak to any billing issues personally.

For some sites, I'm sure the decision to offer a secondary biller is geo-based.


I agree that it's helpful to know who the billers are. Perhaps if you put me on the staff as a reviewer, I could also score the processors - on your dime of course.

Here's the updated list:

Trusted
CCBill
Epoch
Segpay
Famecare
Verotel
VSX Billing
RocketGate
CentroBill

Beware
Purewebpower Edited on May 15, 2017, 06:36pm

05-15-17  05:20am - 2778 days #5
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I have such a horrible memory, hence the reason for this thread. I’m hoping to compile a list of various credit card processors so we can all make an informed decision about joining a site. So far, we have the following:

Trusted
CCBill
Epoch
Segpay
Famecare

Beware
Purewebpower

What brought this to mind was a recent experience with a site. I had only CentroBill as an option. Although I know I used them before, I couldn’t remember if I had a problem. I rolled the dice and joined with CentroBill. I imagine most of us have the same concern – if there will be a problem canceling a recurring subscription. After a few days, the jury is still out with CentroBill. I won’t hasten to judgment as I just joined on Saturday and cancelled after joining. The only method to cancel is a message via the website. All I received back was a confirmation they received my request. The phone number given for support only took messages.

To digress a little, I don’t understand the relationship between credit card processors and the porn industry. It is not the same as it is outside the porn business. For example, if you want to cancel your recurring subscription to Time Magazine, you contact Time, not their credit card processor. If a mistake was made in your check at a restaurant, you contact the restaurant. You won’t know who the processor is and there is no need to know. I’ve worked in the retail industry most of my career and among other responsibilities, I’ve been responsible for choosing and handling the credit card processor. It is a totally different relationship from the porn industry.

Another related issue: Why do many porn sites use more than one, sometimes more than two processors? What’s the point? Again, this seems to be unique to the porn industry. The site referred to above that uses CentroBill also advertise that they use Epoch. I’m wondering if this was used as an enticement since I couldn’t find any way to join except though CentroBill. I tied the usual – inputting incorrect credit card info on the CentroBill page, but no luck. I tried about 6 times.

Reviews by TBP, Rabbit and the like never include info about this stuff since they don’t have to pay. I’d love to get the inside dope on all of this. Edited on May 15, 2017, 05:29am

05-14-17  07:10am - 2779 days Original Post - #1
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I was wondering if we could compile a list of trusted and non-trusted processors. Or perhaps grade them. Such a list would have come in handy before I just joined a site using a particular processor.

There seems to be universal agreement that Epoch and CCBill are the best processors. I know I've come across other processors which are basically okay and others that are not, but I can't remember which ones.

05-12-17  01:24pm - 2781 days #15
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Trade in your PC for a Mac. Problem solved, mostly.

05-12-17  01:23pm - 2781 days #14
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Do you have a recommendation for software and a service?

05-10-17  07:58am - 2783 days #155
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Thanks!

05-10-17  05:41am - 2783 days #9
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


I SOMETIMES DOWNLOAD FROM USENET SITES.


I didn't know usenet still existed! What memories. Is it worthwhile or is it still like the wild west?

05-10-17  05:36am - 2783 days #15
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I wish there was a viable option to store porn in the cloud. As was stated, I don't care that much if someone gains access. It's all legal. My feeling is that even if it wasn't cost prohibitive to store a huge amount of data, it would take forever to upload it, or at least weeks. Then again, I haven't looked into this sort of thing for a number of years.

Over the years, I've grown lazy. I have no backup. It's such a hassle not to mention expensive. I've been using the same 20TB of hard disks since I began saving porn around the time I joined PU. At first, it was sufficient space to store my files plus do a backup. Slowly, I ran out of space. And I regularly delete files as I grow tired of them. As my drives get older, I get more paranoid.

As for storing other stuff in the cloud, I'm a couple of months or so north of age 30 and I love the option. I have a Mac and use iCloud. It makes life so convenient to be able to access my files anywhere. I don't know if I could live without it now.

05-10-17  05:24am - 2783 days #3
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There went my breakfast.

05-07-17  03:12pm - 2786 days #11
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:



JUSTIFIED BY POLICE AND TERRORIST CONCERNS, OF COURSE.


You hit a nerve. Where does it end? Who decides when and under what circumstances it's justified to infringe on individual privacy? Where do we draw the line on torture? Do you think our forefathers would condone the current state of affairs? I don't pretend to have any answers and these are subjects that have and will continue to be debated with likely no resolution. However, we should be mindful whenever the government infringes on privacy in the name of security.

Privacy enables people to be free to think and act as they please without unreasonable and unfair influence or control by others. Otherwise, society can become totalitarian and not unlike a world painted by George Orwell's "1984."

As an aside, I remember having heated arguments with a friend when Giuliani was mayor of NYC in the 90s. He made the streets safe or safer to walk again, but at what cost?

/End of rant

05-05-17  01:07pm - 2788 days #3
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Nice site!

04-29-17  02:58pm - 2794 days #32
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Interesting looking site and excellent review. I may just give it a shot. Thanks.

04-29-17  07:51am - 2794 days #30
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Not to digress, but as long as the subject revolves around reviews and not wanting to open a new thread...

I find myself checking other review sites more these days. Perhaps it's my changing taste and wanting to check out lesser known and non-mainstream sites that caused me to stray from PU. To me, a big drawback of TBP is that a site cannot get listed without the agreement of TBP and the site. As a result, many sites that may be of interest are not listed. At least of interest to me.

This is likely no news to many or most of you, but I consider myself to still be a relative newbie at all this.

There's a plethora of review sites, some that seem to have a vested interest in the sites that are reviewed and others that are independent. Obviously, the independent sites are more objective than the former. However, I found that independence and more objectivity don't necessarily equate to a better or more accurate review. The good news is that I found TBP reviews to be at least as accurate, if not more so. However, generally speaking, PU member reviews are by far the most reliable. Again, the downside is the limitation on sites listed in TBP and hence, the limitation on sites reviewd.

I heard about a site that I was interested in joining not listed on PU, and hunted for reviews - korea1818, billed as the only or one of the only truly Korean sites. I stumbled across reviews in "rockitreports" and "allasianreviews." While the information seemed sincere and to have no vested interest, they were not up to muster and not as thorough as PU member reviews. I think the problem with all the review sites, including TBP is, as was mentioned earlier here, PU users look at sites a lot more in depth and critically than anyone else.

Random and probably naive thoughts for the day. Carry on.

04-28-17  08:25pm - 2794 days #28
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AK, thank you again for your comments and concern. I think the truth lies somewhere in between. In any event, even though there's room for improvement, TBP and Rabbit remain the most helpful and honest professional review sites out there, at least in my book. And nothing out there beats PU member reviews.

04-28-17  08:19pm - 2795 days #10
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I think PU needs to get its priorities straight. Responding to listing new sites as well as following up would be nice.

04-27-17  03:04pm - 2796 days #177
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Nah, I can only take so much of the ho-hum mainstream sites. I'll never give up looking for that needle in a haystack. -)

04-27-17  02:58pm - 2796 days #25
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AK, thanks for commenting. However, I'm still a bit on the fence regarding a conflict of interest. It's not personal and I'll take your word that it's not an issue for you. Sorry to say that I never pay attention to whom the reviewer is for the TBP / Rabbit reviews. However, It seems a simple matter that as bad reviews increase, revenue for TBP / Rabbit will decrease since sites will likely pull out. IMO, the only way to avoid any conflict of interest is to have the site funded by users.

Again, I have to single out the review for the site mentioned, DesiPapa. I just can't wrap my head around how anyone, even someone only taking a quick look at the site for a review, can't be appalled about some of the worst camera work and video quality I've encountered. The reviews in Rabbit and TBP earned scores 83 and 77. While both reviews did touch on a lack of quality, such a major con was glossed over. While there is some subjectivity involved, video resolution is all numbers. And one camera angle is one camera angle, the vast majority of videos. The reviews weren't glowing, but neither did the reviews mention the extent to which the lack of quality detracts from the site.

Lastly, and this is more subjective, the lack of quality in good looking women was never mentioned. On the contrary, only the fact that there are models on the site (I only noticed one) was mentioned. But jeez, there were women that had to be in their 50's and 20+ pounds overweight, some even obese.

Again, I am only speaking generally about the reviewers. However, it seems to me it's difficult to prevent a conflict of interest when Rabbit's bread and butter comes from the paw that feeds it. Edited on Apr 27, 2017, 03:13pm

04-27-17  11:27am - 2796 days #175
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Does it really matter? -)

[now this request is gonna get buried and Amanda will never see it. She's got her hands full as it is with these requests ]

[[The site basically sucks and my wallet is $28 lighter. Another DesiPal, sigh.]]

04-27-17  11:21am - 2796 days #8
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Oh please. Ivanka is the natural successor. After all, DJT believes in women, no?

04-27-17  09:49am - 2796 days #173
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Just discovered this in my hunt for Korean porn, a rarity due to Korean customs and laws. I believe the site emanates from Japan.

http://www.korea1818.com/

04-27-17  08:00am - 2796 days #172
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I don't know if this is the proper thread to report this, but it seems as good as any.

TBP reports www.czechsexcasting.com is available for $14.95 with the PU discount. This is not accurate. It is double that.

04-25-17  07:27pm - 2798 days Original Post - #1
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Whattaya think earnings are for non-mainstream actors, male and female? Do foreign studios, i.e., Japanese, European, pay as or nearly as much as in the US? Or is it such a broad question that defies an answer?
And no, I'm not looking for a second career.

04-25-17  01:00pm - 2798 days #2
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And DJT's reply to that query would unquestionably be, "What, me worry?" [tm, Alfred E. Neuman]

Actually, it's a little confusing, at least to me. The president enjoys absolute immunity for anything he does in a personal capacity while in office. However, people can still bring suits against him for his policies, like the suit brought against Trump Hotel in Washington by the Cork Wine Bar alleging unfair competition. And there's a sh!tload more suits. However, I don't get the differentiation between personal stuff vs. policies.

Btw, Trump has been involved in excess of 4000 lawsuits, many of them still pending. And I'm sure he's got a rationalization for each one. Or maybe they're fake lawsuits.

Don't get me started though.

04-25-17  11:41am - 2798 days #20
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Amanda, thank you for the explanation and history lesson -). And thank God for PU, a site that is one of a kind and incredibly useful. Kudos to Rick for having the foresight to found the site.

I could debate whether PU and TBP reviews serve different purposes, but it is what it is. One great thing about TBP reviews is that sometimes its reviews offset strong opinionated reviews by users, lending a voice of reason so to speak.

In any event, thank you and the PU / TBP / Rabbit staff for filling a big void and providing us with such a helpful and enjoyable site.

04-23-17  07:06am - 2800 days #16
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Originally Posted by mbaya:


I never found even one decent site featuring Indian women. I think the one positive review for DesiPapa was a lot of wishful thinking.


That's sad to hear.However, after spending (too much) time weeding through the rubbish, I've changed my opinion of the site if only slightly. I will post a review.

04-22-17  07:31pm - 2801 days #13
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One can dream, no? -)
Frankly, I'll take a good part of the blame for joining. If I had noticed mbaya's comment, I probably wouldn't have joined. Then again, I might have tested the fates anyway - it was only $12.47.

04-22-17  03:29pm - 2801 days #11
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Thanks wittyguy. Sorry I missed the other thread and I appreciate the regurgitation. Everything said makes sense. I'll keep all this in mind next time I read a TBP or another professional review.

04-22-17  09:52am - 2801 days #7
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I joined for that very reason - desperation for Indian porn. But truth be told, I felt like burning my eyes out after looking at the women, the majority of whom ranged from a few pounds overweight to obese and many who looked like they could be collecting social security.

Anyway, my point in all this is more about TBP and Rabbit. Very disappointing. And thank God for PU, the only place to get the real skinny on a site.I suppose I still don't understand the relationship between PU, TBP and Rabbit. I thought they were all affiliated with Rabbit joining a short time ago.

04-22-17  09:36am - 2801 days #5
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I totally agree with mbaya's comment. However, there's a gushing though expired review by someone who seems to have a vested interest in the site. Either that or he's insane.

04-22-17  09:02am - 2801 days #3
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Hey, I'm catching up in the ramble dept. -)

The only thing TBP and Rabbit have going for them is when it comes to listing facts, like number of videos, photos, etc. And they do a good job of it, TBP a lot better as you said. However, when it comes to subjectivity, they are both incredibly lacking and full of baloney. They're not as bad as the pseudo review sites that probably have a blatant agenda, but TBP / Rabbit paint a far rosier picture of a site than is merited.

I'm specifically referring to Desipapa, which I may do a review on. The only reason for doing a review would be to counter the Rabbit and TBP reviews as well as one insane expired PU review. However, I'm not wasting any more time downloading and I'll kiss my membership fee goodbye. Actually, I did download close to 100 videos (if you can call them that) thinking it would get better. If it was practical, I'd offer to pay for anyone's membership who can honestly say this site is worthy of anything. Edited on Apr 22, 2017, 09:10am (jook: spellllling)

04-22-17  07:12am - 2801 days Original Post - #1
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Sorry to step on toes, but...

I wonder about these reviews. I can't say that I've looked at that many and I might be off base, but my experience has not been as nearly as positive as the reviews on these sites purport. I find them unreliable at best. I hate to say it, but I believe these are not truly independent reviews and need to be taken with a big grain of salt.

I suppose what finally made up my mind was joining an off-the-wall site which got decent reviews by these review sites. That site could be among the worst sites I ever visited in most every respect.

I understand reviews can be subjective. But jeez, the site is filled with clips, many under 1 minute. Quality is piss poor with almost every video coming in at 480. And upload dates are definitely fishy. They have uploads purportedly as recently as today. I don't believe it. And the best for last... one video had a xhamster logo on it. Edited on Apr 22, 2017, 07:28am (jook: hit enter too fast)

04-22-17  03:51am - 2801 days #17
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


IN REALITY, THE THRILL OF THE HUNT IS A LARGE PART OF THE COLLECTOR'S PASSION. BECAUSE ONCE YOU GET IT, THE ITEM'S VALUE SEEMS TO DROP OVER TIME. SAD BUT TRUE, I THINK.


Yes! We digress, but very appropriate timing for me. I grew tired of mainstream sites long ago, i.e., Brazzers, Skeet, etc. etc. I live for the hunt, mostly. Unfortunately, the pickings are slim and the results are generally awful not to mention it burning a hole in my wallet. But when I find that needle in the haystack, it seems to make it all worthwhile.

04-20-17  02:50am - 2803 days #4
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Originally Posted by Darius:


Just in case you weren't aware, I'd like to inform the community that we now have a porn star in the White House!

Yay!

And by that I mean Trump.

He had a short, clothed cameo, in a delightful little softcore flick produced by Playboy in 2000, entitled:

Playboy Video Centerfold: Playmate 2000 Bernaola Twins.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0304554/?ref_=ttfc_fc_tt

I don't know about you but I find it feels oddly validating to have someone of such ... questionable ... morality conquer the White House, bastion of boring prudential attitudes.

And if that's a little too soft for your tastes, check out, Make America Gape Again (aka Hardcore Gangbang 4014

http://www.iafd.com/title.rme/title=hardcore+gangbang+40148/year=2016/hardcore-gangbang-40148.htm

If that doesn't make you put on one of those stupid red caps, nothing will.


Little known fact. Mike was Donny's fluffer with Vladimir supervising.
Ugh, scratch my eyes out. Edited on Apr 20, 2017, 03:00am

04-18-17  05:16pm - 2805 days #13
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Sorry, didn't explain it properly I guess. The point was, even if the reviewer loved the site, he should take into consideration all the facts. Same as the other example.

04-18-17  03:42pm - 2805 days #11
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I think the score is fishy when it varies significantly from the other scores. The only time I don't necessarily think it's fishy is if there is a review where you can see the thinking behind the score.

Now some scores are based far too much on the bad personal experience of the reviewer rather than as a pure analysis of the site's content. That score will affect the overall rating of the site but with a review to accompany it than you are able to identify the reasons behind the score and make a better judgement. The same couldn't be said if the person only posted the score.


I totally agree. And I'll take your statement a step further by saying that regardless of personal opinion, subjectivity should have little to do with a rating. For example:

1. I thought the site sucked but that's just me. I hate sites that specialize in long blow jobs.

2. I thought the site was fantastic despite the horrible video quality, cross checks and lack of support.

In either case, the rating should not be based on the reviewer's personal preferences. This may be a matter of contention, but I truly believe a good reviewer will be able to separate personal biases from the review and ultimate rating.

04-18-17  01:11pm - 2805 days #9
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Still having problems posting. This may be a duplicate.

Will, perhaps "fishy" was the wrong word. As you went on to explain or at least intimate, the details in the review are generally more important than the rating. Giving a score to a site is meaningless to me without a narrative about what the site is about as well as how the reviewer arrived at the given score.

Btw, I have no idea how to go about simply leaving a rating. But that's okay. Unless it's gonna make me eligible for the raffle -)).

Having said that, I would substitute "inappropriate" for "fishy." I don't think your comparison to online shopping sites is fair, though I'm not familiar with any sites that are simply given a numerical rating. I've never seen mainstream movie ratings without reviews. And I read movie reviews often as I go on average to one movie per week.

But whatever, I think the point comes across on PU one way or the other and I'm generally able to discern whether to subscribe to a site by its reviews. However, sometimes I have to enhance the review with my own research if the review is lacking.

04-16-17  05:21pm - 2807 days #6
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I'm an accountant

04-16-17  02:12pm - 2807 days #4
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Ah, I see how they do the math. However, I don't get what a "rating" is. How do you give a site a rating without a review?

Seems fishy to me. -)

04-16-17  04:48am - 2807 days Original Post - #1
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Can someone explain how overall review ratings are calculated?
It seems simple enough and maybe I'm dense. Japan HDV has an overall PU rating of 90.3. However, the rating from one active review is 88 (mine) and the TBP rating is 80. Apparently, there's another factor I'm missing for this to make sense.

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