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06-06-12  07:33am - 4582 days Original Post - #1
Horndog (0)
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Security issues

I see some sites where the first part of the join process is not encrypted. I'm not picking on them but czechcasting.com, for example, asks for a userid, password, and e-mail address to be sent unencrypted. Thankfully the actual join page where credit card info is transmitted is encrypted.

How do you guys and gals get around this? Why are some sites not encrypting the entire join process? I realize one can't always be 100 percent secure but my attitude is don't make it easy for the bad guys out there.

06-06-12  08:10am - 4582 days #2
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I have no inside info on this but can make an educated guess ...

My guess is they want to be able to harvest your email address even if you decide not to join.

Of course it could be something innocent like it just never occurred to them that they should encrypt the first half of the process because you're giving a password.

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06-06-12  12:40pm - 4582 days #3
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This appears to be getting very common too. What I do is input fictitious data onto that first form. Often, you can then alter all of it on the actual join page. If you can't, I go back to the first page and input real data only for what I can't alter on the second page.

Sometimes the transmission from you to the website is actually secure, even though the page displayed is not encrypted. The padlock symbol and encryption indicates only that the page was transmitted from the website to your PC over a secure encrypted link. It is neither a necessary nor sufficient condition for transmitting your details securely from your PC to the website.

If you look at the source of the unencrypted login page, it will sometimes use a secure link within its javascript.

In that case, we are being paranoid, because the data transmission is secure even though the displayed page is not.

You can set Firefox to warn you if you are about to send data over an insecure link. But it is a pain to have that warning on all the time.

06-06-12  02:43pm - 4582 days #4
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Agree with Khan. I accidentally made an account on a Kink company site with the wrong email address. Went back and made the account with the right one. When I checked the email account, I accidentally used, the next day, there was a "We have setup your account and it's ready" email and already have a promo email from them about a special offer too.

Teen Dreams was one of the first sites that I remember that had a problem with having unencrypted signup, but encrypted payment page. They were canceling member accounts left and right because of "Too many IP addresses logging in with your account info." And would ask if you were sharing your login with others. I think it finally hit them that it was their fault for having an unencrypted signup page and posted an apology on their site for all the past hassles. The old version of 21Sextury, especially Club Sandy, also had the same problem.

I'm guessing those sites are now doing what Claypaws is saying. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

06-07-12  08:44am - 4581 days #5
Horndog (0)
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Thanks for the input. I didn't think about what Claypaws suggested but it's a great idea! I guess it's true that the chance to see a naked woman makes horny guys like me go temporarily dumb!

06-07-12  10:24pm - 4581 days #6
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Originally Posted by Khan:


I have no inside info on this but can make an educated guess ...

My guess is they want to be able to harvest your email address even if you decide not to join.


The cynic in me would agree with this first guess.

How many sites, not to mention every brick and mortar store under the sun, asks for your e-mail address? One of my pet peeves (out of about a million... ) is all this "create an account" nonsense you go through every time you buy something online.

I guess you can never have too much spam. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

06-07-12  10:57pm - 4581 days #7
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


The cynic in me would agree with this first guess.

How many sites, not to mention every brick and mortar store under the sun, asks for your e-mail address? One of my pet peeves (out of about a million... ) is all this "create an account" nonsense you go through every time you buy something online.

I guess you can never have too much spam.


Of course not, I just love getting emails from third world countries offering me money for doing nothing. Since 2007

06-08-12  05:08am - 4581 days #8
Claypaws (0)
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Spam has never been a problem for me. I use a unique email address for every site I join. So if I get spam on that email address, I know exactly which site was involved. If it is a site I care about, I can contact the site so they can alter their systems like TeenDreams in exotics4me's post.

Either way, all I need to do is delete the email address once I know billing is stopped and then I get no more spam.

One or two sites consistently result in spam but I am not too bothered as I sign up for only a month and delete the email address when the month is up.

06-08-12  08:56am - 4580 days #9
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I have joined several sites using a proxy, right now I use a service that adjusts my ip address at random intervals. My router remains the same, but I run all my stuff after my ISP through a masking server. I don't use it on forums cause Id have to log in and out all the time but for sites I can do this.

I to do as you do Clawpaws at last count I have 25 active emails LOL and one catch all . ( where every email is copied and sent to )

CT Since 2007

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