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| 12-29-10 08:29am - 5107 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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nadiencendia (0)
Active User Posts: 10 Registered: Jan 11, '07 Location: Madrid (Spain) |
Hypnofetish, anyone? Hi, everybody! Here's a quick question: does anybody else (apart from me, that is) find the idea of hypnosis, or mind control, quite erotic? The truth is, it doesn't seem to be a very common fetish (I would call it more a "fantasy" than a "fetish", though). There are only a few websites devoted to it (Hypnogirls, Hipnotricks, the Erotic Mind Control Story Archive...) and most of them are quite crappy. The funny thing is that control and submission are a very common fantasy for both men and women, and hypnosis and mind control are just about that... Anyway: hypnofetish, anyone? :P | |
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| 12-29-10 11:45am - 5107 days | #2 | |
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Khan (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
I suspect that many see "mind control" as lack of consent which is, by definition, tantamount to r@pe. Not sure how that is rationalized w/in the fantasy. Perhaps you could shed some light on that? Former PornUsers Senior Administrator Now at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson | |
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| 12-29-10 12:42pm - 5107 days | #3 | |
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nadiencendia (0)
Active User Posts: 10 Registered: Jan 11, '07 Location: Madrid (Spain) |
Well, first of all we are obviously talking about a fantasy world, and what one fantasizes about is quite different from what one would really do in real life (even if someone could in fact hypnotize anyone into having sex with them). That being said, I have heard and read (for instance, here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_fantasy) that the fantasy of being controlled, and being in control, during sex, is a very common one, and a powerful one I would add. It goes both ways: the idea of totally submitting to somebody can be as erotic as having someone totally submitted to you. I would say that BDSM is somewhere in the same line; in fact, if hypnosis is faked (as it quite obviously is in all those sites), I don't think it's qualitatively different from those sites where someone is tightly tied up and then done all sort of things. I suppose I don't need to explain that I would never force a woman in real life in any way, do I? | |
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| 12-29-10 01:08pm - 5107 days | #4 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
Hypnosis (Psychology) an artificially induced state of relaxation and concentration in which deeper parts of the mind become more accessible: used clinically to reduce reaction to pain, to encourage free association, etc. A trancelike state resembling sleep, usually induced by a therapist by focusing a subject's attention, that heightens the subject's receptivity to suggestion. The uses of hypnosis in medicine and psychology include recovering repressed memories, modifying or eliminating undesirable behavior (such as smoking), and treating certain chronic disorders, such as anxiety. The use of hypnotism for therapeutic purposes is referred to as "hypnotherapy", while its use as a form of entertainment for an audience is known as "stage hypnosis". Contemporary research suggests that hypnotic subjects are fully awake and are focussing attention, with a corresponding decrease in their peripheral awareness. Subjects also show an increased response to suggestions. James Randi, a professional magician and skeptic, provides a definition of hypnosis as "a mutual agreement of the operator and the subject that the subject will cooperate in following suggestions". One cannot be hypnotized without giving consent - or in this case, giving it up to the hypnotist. If you try to compare Stage Hypnosis to real hypnosis, it's more of a magician's parlor trick than real hypnosis - and one cannot tell in the case of porn hypnosis which it is. At any rate there are some benefits that COULD be obtained, such a pain control for anal sex or perhaps gag reflex for deep throating, but it is something that one would probably have to do over a period of time. Personal experience is that not everyone can be hypnotized (though there are "stages" of depth) and you cannot be forced to do anything that you would be set against doing. My father used it for pain control during one of his surgeries and it worked pretty well - the non expected return was that because of the deep relation techniques that it employs, he was able to cut his recovery time by 40% since it help remove the anxiety and stress of the surgery. FYI - Autohypnosis is used by a lot of people in sports and everyday life to visualize and calm themselves. I think for the purposes of this discussion though one could take it that it is not r@pe but more of a thematic approach of a porn director. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee. If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! | |
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| 12-29-10 01:53pm - 5107 days | #5 | |
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Khan (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
nadiencendia, before this goes any further allow me to assure you that you don't need to feel as if you need to defend your interest in this fantasy. The very fact that TBP/PU lists these types of sites tells you that we do understand that there is a difference between the fantasy and actual r@pe. So again, don't feel as if any disparagement is being cast on your character. My question was more to foster discussion that might give the rest of us some insight into the attraction to this type of fantasy. As an aside ... You may or may not be aware but in true (responsible) BSDM relationships, it's the submissive that holds the real power as they can, at any time, halt the activity by saying a prearranged "safe" word. jberryl69, oddly, I'm fairly familiar with hypnosis in a number of its applications. As I'm sure you're aware, while it's commonly reported that, "you cannot be forced to do anything that you would be set against doing" ... however, because of the nature of "hypnotic logic" (of the subject) a situation *may* be set up where behavior that would otherwise be against the subject's nature, can be made to seem perfectly appropriate. Still, this isn't the place for protracted discussions of the nature of hypnosis. I simply hoped nadiencendia might be willing to discuss the attraction of the fantasy a bit more. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator Now at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson | |
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| 12-29-10 02:12pm - 5107 days | #6 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
oh!  For me there is none so I'll just shut the front door. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee. If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! | |
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| 12-29-10 02:27pm - 5107 days | #7 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I find the idea of control and submission quite erotic. More so in written material than in so-called "hypno" or BDSM sites where the make-believe is too obvious. And that's as it should be, otherwise it would come too uncomfortably close to r@pe. | |
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| 12-29-10 02:59pm - 5107 days | #8 | |
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nadiencendia (0)
Active User Posts: 10 Registered: Jan 11, '07 Location: Madrid (Spain) |
Ok, fair enough, Khan, for a moment there I felt like I had to defend my innocence  Thanks for clearing the air about that...I would recommend for anybody who is interested in this fantasy to read a few stories in the "Erotic Mind Control Story Archive" (http://www.asstr.org/~mcstories/) There you can find all possible variations on the issue, classified by theme or type of action. It is difficult for me to say why this idea of being controlled or controlling someone though hypnosis attracts me (in fact, I have felt this "interest" for as long as I can remember having erotic thoughts about anything else); I am not into BDSM, nor in real life nor in porn. I think it has more to do with surpassing one's own boundaries: the idea of forcing someone or being forced to do things that you wouldn't do because of shyness, fear, morality, dignity, physical impossibility, etc. (which is not, as someone has said, the purpose of real-life hypnosis). I also find it interesting that both ends of the equation are equally attractive to me; I would have thought that people were either submissive or dominant, but apparently I am both (are we all both, maybe?). As for the sites or videos with real models, as messmer says, the problem with most of them is that they require real acting, and sadly most of the girls are not prepared for that: either they overact or the underact, or they just repeat the same movements or sounds over and over again... | |
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| 12-29-10 07:21pm - 5107 days | #9 | ||
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I've visited there quite a few times, nadiencendia. You will find quite a bit of similar material in asstr itself. Sometimes (please close your eyes for a few moments, Khan) I get more of a thrill out of a well-written story then out of pictures or videos. Possibly because my mind supplies all the extra ingredients that are so often missing in main stream porn. Kristen has quite a good selection touching upon every niche. Sometimes the stories are infantile but at other times they can be very good.
I don't think we are ever black or white when it comes to our sexual preferences and fantasies. I know that my tastes are constantly evolving. In my teenage years my fantasies were mostly submissive, now they tend to lean toward dominant. I am happily heterosexual yet have come across transsexuals in my web travels that actually turned me on, to my great surprise. I am constantly searching for sites containing mature women yet have subscribed to Nubiles in the past. I love pictures yet tend to subscribe to quite a few video sites. I prefer softcore yet feel myself irresistibly drawn to the dark side of hard core at times. I would say we are not only a mixture of both (submissive and dominant) but everything in between, depending on our present mood.Or maybe I'm crazy!   | ||
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| 12-29-10 10:05pm - 5106 days | #10 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
You've pushed the right button, nadiencendia. If you're mind to, jus' ferret back through past reviews and check out mine, on the site (Hypnogirls). If it wasn't such an insult to me having this pseudo-mind-controller apparantly thinkin' I'm so naive as to think he's convincing me his powers are authentic, then I'd have more to say about his site than the utter fact it simply stinks. his ego inspired hypnotist act is so piss-poor that my guess is acting school would even lock him out. Why am I so caustic? Because being among the many others who laid down good money for bad crap, its left me with a timberjack size axe to grind.  | |
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| 12-30-10 02:58am - 5106 days | #11 | |
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atrapat (0)
Active User  Posts: 182 Registered: Apr 19, '08 Location: Non-USA |
There's a website called "steve steele presents" that has various videos for sale, mostly revolving around hypnosis but also mixing some things like super heroines. The actresses are often well known US porn stars and it's clearly staged so any doubts regarding the willingness of the actresses to perform is unfounded. It's not a regular membership site but if you're really into it, it may be worth taking a look. | |
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| 12-30-10 04:57am - 5106 days | #12 | |
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hodayathink (0)
Active User Posts: 312 Registered: Mar 27, '09 Location: Illinois |
I actually like hypnosis porn, except for the simple fact that you have to actually be able to act to pull it off halfway decently, and I've almost never seen a porn girl be able to act well enough to do it. They're either obviously not in a trance, or they respond to queries before they're even finished, or they take the hypnotist repeating the same thing 3 times before they actually do it. I think, in the 4-5 years I've been interested in it, I've seen literally one woman pull it off even decently. | |
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