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08-06-13  06:13pm - 4156 days Original Post - #1
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I don’t want to come across as naïve, so I’ll state clearly that I don’t believe the format for Exploited College Girls and Back Room Casting Couch. I don’t believe that a guy with a camera can get hundreds of hot coeds to come to a hotel room with his for sex in the hopes that they can be the next Sasha Grey or whoever. Nor do I believe that a guy can rent an office and lure wanna-be models in and talk them into sex on camera. As much as I’d like to believe that, I can’t imagine that it is true given strict 2257 requirements and other legal issues.

But…

As I browse through the sites and watch what I’ve downloaded it strikes me that there are a LOT of attractive young women out there who seem to dabble in porn. Of the hundreds of models who appear on these sites (with some overlap) I’d say that fewer than 20 are recognizable porn stars. I don’t watch a lot of amateur stuff, or visit cam-girl sites so these girls could come from there too I suppose. But I can’t help but notice that it seems pretty easy for these guys to get hot models to dabble in porn at least once.

So where do these models come from? What’s in it for them? I realize that none of us here have the answer, and the answer for each model will be unique, but even discounting that the set-up is likely contrived, there seems to be no shortage of women willing to try porn.

I’m not even sure what I’m asking here, maybe it’s ‘why are so many women willing to dabble in porn?’ It seems to me that this is a business where you either stay out or jump in and go big.

Thoughts?

(And I'm not thinking of starting a site. Yet...)

08-06-13  06:30pm - 4156 days #2
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The majority of the women who appear on one or both sites are relative unknowns in the porn industry. I believe the guy who shoots those videos is located somewhere in the Midwest so that explains why the girls are unknowns. Some do go on to do more porn but in most simply disappear from the net. I'm not too sure where he recruits the girls but strip clubs, newspaper adds and escorts sites seem to be good places. It wouldn't surprise me to find out that many of them do cam stuff but good luck finding if that's true since there are so many girls who do that and way too many sites that host them.

I said that some go on to do more porn for other studios but this is also hard to find unless you are good with faces because the name on these sites is often a different one than when they word elsewhere.

I'm not a huge fan of the language he uses on his site to describe the performers but then again I'm also not a fan of the kind of porn he shoots. I've been a member a couple of times and I think I've kept about 3 videos and I never really watch these. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-06-13  10:16pm - 4156 days #3
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The unknowns are like the interns of porn with promises of fame for a few hundred bucks for a couple fucks. They can pay for college books and move on.

I think they are prayed upon, kinda like a pimp at the bus station. But these guys sell fame and possibility of wealth.
They leave out less then 1/1000 of all stars ever make more then a few hundred a scene.
Production and website sales is where the money is.

You ever see a cut waitress at Hooters or even Denny's thats sex selling itself for minimum wage same exact thing but the naked version. Since 2007

08-07-13  08:13am - 4155 days #4
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Herewith is a copy of a thread I summited a good while back that I hope will help confirm your point.
Staged or spontaneous, what do you think?

Place.... action ... as the action begins:

Two guys are driving merrily along -- camera and paraphernalia in tow -- searching for young, attractive, and innocent girls with whom to bring back to their comfortable pad and film themselves fucking her brains out.

Then there's the other trolling pussy-seekers who want all the action right away in their vehicle...so once the target is sweet-talked into their van, the girls are fast-talked into piling in the back for their filming debut .
What puzzles me is the ease with which these guys get the girls off the ground and into their pussy-wagon. And I'm not convinced they have wads enough of greenback to offer that'll entice a girl to throw caution to the wind and hop right into a van with complete strangers. I've never had that kind of luck nor anybody else I know.
All this would come together and make sense if the scenario was admittedly staged -- which I'm completely convinced is the case. But the project's intent is unquestionably as such to make us believe otherwise... Like in spontaneous and real-time.
I figure a place and time the action starts is prearranged, and the guy's simply let the girls ad-lib through the whole gig. Good acting isn't easy, and any attempt at passing it off by most porn new-comers stick out like blinking neon lights.
Don't you just get kind of tired of these self-appointed would-be movie Moguls taking pot-shots at our intelligence ? I'd suppose if we were Eskimos they'd be selling us snowballs

08-07-13  08:27am - 4155 days #6
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Would somebody with the knowhow PLEASE, PLEASE delete the duplicate upper post #5 I've tried everything Edited on Aug 07, 2013, 01:55pm

08-07-13  09:49am - 4155 days #7
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It's simple quick easy money and that's the part I do understand the part I don't is the older people likening the very young. We belong to a couple sites and the not so very young we find hotter in every way looks and body the only thing is the wieners or bad moaners lol. HENSHE92923

08-07-13  09:53am - 4155 days #8
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yes your s right, simple quick easy money. that's except if the have a group of big bbc for a gang bang lol. than again looks like one good time lol
jack HENSHE92923

08-07-13  09:56am - 4155 days #9
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yes I agree most porn is bad, we bought about 30 or 40 and maybe we'll watch 2 or 3. we video all our sex and we make better porn. people that we cam to go nuts lol HENSHE92923

08-07-13  05:31pm - 4155 days #10
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I hadn't thought that strip clubs and escort services would probably be a prime area for recruiting these models, but it still seems a bit overwhelming the sheer number of women willing to do this. I think a good contrast is FTV Girls which is all softcore and looks much more professional. I guess the money must be a big draw.

08-08-13  03:38am - 4155 days #11
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^Part of the reason why strip clubs are a good place for recruiting talent is because the women who work in those places already take their clothes off in front of a crowd so the transition to doing the same thing in front of a camera is a lot easier for them. That's not to say that a stripper is any more open to getting fucked in front of said camera but I suspect that many start off with nude and slowly migrate toward the sex thing as their agent keeps talking of the money. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-12-13  03:24pm - 4150 days #12
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What really is the reason is, several thousand years ago, God made Woman in the Garden of Eden and she was naked, but nobody videotaped yet her because there wasn't any Internet and also because she hadn't yet stolen the apple.

Then she stole the apple, gave it to Adam, and the pornographic industry was more or less born right there. (Adam and Eve studio came into being (Genesis 17:4-5.))

Adam noticed Eve's reflection in the pool, and would sometimes jerk off when Eve wasn't looking at the (admittedly low-def) image of her in the water.

Eventually, in both Corinthians and Ephesians, God instructed women that the highest spiritual fulfillment of their womanhood could only be found in their most debased satiation of random men in porn.

Hence that's one scientific reason that, to this day, hot young women love being in porn. Cum Play John

08-12-13  03:51pm - 4150 days #13
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I remember some of the cheaper sites I belonged to had special material of streaming videos. Nothing downloadable. Guys cruising for young women. A girl invites a friend over and convinces her to have lesbian sex while another friend films them, and the one I thought was the funniest was a married couple having women come in for an interview to be a nanny that would perform an extra service. Soon there was a three way going on in the middle of the interview while someone filmed them. They still make these?
Loved the sets. Goodwill made some good money that day. Warning Will Robinson

08-12-13  08:18pm - 4150 days #14
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Originally Posted by pat362:


The majority of the women who appear on one or both sites are relative unknowns in the porn industry. I believe the guy who shoots those videos is located somewhere in the Midwest so that explains why the girls are unknowns.


Wouldn't that technically be illegal then since shooting porn outside a few places (California, Florida, NYC) is not cool with the law? I've always been kind of curious about these sites that shoot in these places since it could get them in trouble. ALS Scan and FTV Girls are both in these legal gray areas too, though with significantly less hardcore content.

Originally Posted by pat362:


I'm not a huge fan of the language he uses on his site to describe the performers but then again I'm also not a fan of the kind of porn he shoots.


Sounds like Max Hardcore, and the same general thread question applies to him as well: "So where do these models come from? What's in it for them?" Knowing that his stuff is out there, and he makes it clear what the performers are in for (which for the majority looked like it was regretting working with him in the first place), how did he keep attracting young women? A few were genuinely into it, went on to do more humane porn, but I swear I hear a feminist's head explode every time I see anything with him in it.

As to the original mentioned sites (where I have never been a member) and porn in general, I think it can be explained by money, lack of opportunity, childhood issues, or some combination of all of these. With every porn-exploits/abuses/destroys-women Dworkinesque critic there seems to a real lack of empathy for why women get into the business and stay. Numerous veteran performers--who infuriate the critics by deciding to continue in porn of their own free will--have all said some version of "It's not like I chose porn over Harvard."

If someone really hates porn, and I doubt many genuinely do, they should look at addressing the cause and not the symptom. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Aug 13, 2013, 05:10pm (turboshaft: Spelling)

08-13-13  06:17am - 4149 days #15
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:



If someone really hates porn, and I doubt many genuinely do, they should look at addressing the cause and not the symptom.


I agree I think many are closet, dark basement watchers, who hide from their wives and lead double lives.

The industry has always stalked the young Tracy Lord is a prime example with no enforcement or regulation what occurs.
Not the have regulations and still stalk their prey. Since 2007

08-13-13  05:15pm - 4149 days #16
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


I agree I think many are closet, dark basement watchers, who hide from their wives and lead double lives.


Probably so, but it's the quiet ones you gotta watch out for.

But porn's still an easy vice to keep secret if you're careful. I doubt Anthony Weiner and Bob Filner would be in as much trouble, if any at all, if they had kept their hands and cell phone pics to themselves and just browsed some sites instead. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-13-13  05:47pm - 4149 days #17
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


I doubt Anthony Weiner and Bob Filner would be in as much trouble, if any at all, if they had kept their hands and cell phone pics to themselves and just browsed some sites instead.


Aint that the truth...............! Since 2007

08-13-13  06:27pm - 4149 days #18
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


Wouldn't that technically be illegal then since shooting porn outside a few places (California, Florida, NYC) is not cool with the law?


There is nothing technical about it. It's illegal to shoot porn anywhere but California and New Hampshire. Of course that hasn't stopped companies from shooting elsewhere. Florida being one of the more popular locations after Los Angeles. The only problem for those producers is that an hungry DA may one day use them to sharpen his teeth and increase is credenditials.

Originally Posted by turboshaft:


Sounds like Max Hardcore, and the same general thread question applies to him as well: "So where do these models come from? What's in it for them?"


Although I don't like the language he uses. This is only done in the synopsis of the video and never used with the performers themselves. It wouldn't surprise me that he was inspired by Max but at least he doesn't act like Max in his videos. Long live the Brown Coats.

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