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| 04-27-11 08:19am - 4988 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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FuckingGambler (0)
Suspended Webmaster Posts: 15 Registered: Jan 28, '10 Location: Hungary |
Beta testing of Downloadable Blu-ray ISOs We have just started beta-testing of our ambitious project to provide our members with real Blu-ray quality, providing Blu-ray ISOs which can be downloaded, burned and then played on your huge 52" TV using your very latest Blu-ray player. Blu-rays have many advantages over simple clips, including higher quality and much richer features. Currently we do not provide too many features (though per request of our members we did add ability to skip gameplay and show only action for those who's watching it for the second time), but we're planning to utilize more features provided by Blu-ray, in the future (including multiple sound tracks and subtitles in several languages). Currently it is in "beta" stage, so please feel free to try it (for free) and comment, it is your chance not only to help us, but maybe even to help shaping the whole industry. We are planning to provide our downloadable Blu-rays for free to our paying members, but are also planning to sell them to anybody at mere $3/disc. Wouldn't it be nice if mainstream studios would sell downloadable Blu-rays for $3/disc? They wouldn't make that much less profit BTW (counting all the costs of printing and distribution), especially for older titles. There are two options for you to try it. Option 1. Without any registration, you can download it from our "How to burn Blu-ray disc from ISO file" guide, every page of it has links to sample ISOs (they're small and limited to 5-10 minutes, but the menus and content are the same as on main ISO). This "How to burn Blu-ray disc from ISO file" guide can be found in the following way: go to home page of FuckingGamble site, then - to "Site News" page, then click on "For the first time in history - Blu-ray ISOs for download (beta)", and there you'll find the link to the "How to burn Blu-ray disc from ISO file" guide. Option 2. Register as "Join Free" user on FuckingGamble.com (no credit card required, but you'll need to enter e-mail address, please feel free to use a throw-away one from Yahoo or Hotmail). Game 26, "Games with Balls", is available for download as a full 3-hour Blu-ray ISO. All ISOs are available in three different sizes - "slightly better than DVD" (so-called BD5), "medium quality" (BD9), and "tru blu-ray quality" (BD25). Which one to download is up to you, though please take a look at our "How to burn Blu-ray disc from ISO file" before downloading. After downloading Blu-ray ISO, you will need to burn it. How to do it , is described in our "How to burn Blu-ray disc from ISO file" guide, and in many cases you can even do it even without Blu-ray burner (details are in the guide). All feedback is greatly appreciated, either here, or on our site. | |
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| 04-27-11 09:06am - 4988 days | #2 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
You will have to pardon my ignorance of video tech, but what would be wrong with playing the material direct from a harddrive? Why would it need to be burned to a disc? Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 04-27-11 09:46am - 4988 days | #3 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Because that's what ISO files are for--disc burning, not watching. I guess the appeal is because, as FuckingGambler says, "Blu-rays have many advantages over simple clips, including higher quality and much richer features." I would think most members would just want simple clips, I certainly would be happy with that. In my view good content can be its own richer feature.  "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 04-27-11 11:49am - 4988 days | #4 | |
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atrapat (0)
Active User  Posts: 182 Registered: Apr 19, '08 Location: Non-USA |
I think it's worth mentioning that DVD ISO files may be played by VLC media player without the need to burn a physical disc. I did a quick search and it seems that VLC doesn't play Blu-Ray, though. Programs that do may exist. | |
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| 04-27-11 12:53pm - 4988 days | #5 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Yes, I know what ISO files are, I was just questioning why you would want them. You answered that one too!  Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 04-27-11 08:52pm - 4987 days | #6 | |
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hodayathink (0)
Active User Posts: 312 Registered: Mar 27, '09 Location: Illinois |
I'm pretty sure there's been at least one thread on here about how to burn video files to DVD, and I think another one on the best way to watch files on a TV. What if it were as easy as just telling people to burn it to a DVD or Blu-Ray and that's it? Honestly, this is probably the most interesting thing I've seen a site do with downloads in at least the past year (because, honestly, there's not that much interesting stuff you can do with downloads and file formats). I don't know how popular it will be (for them or anyone else), but good job of thinking outside the box and coming up with something different. | |
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| 04-27-11 10:12pm - 4987 days | #7 | |
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FuckingGambler (0)
Suspended Webmaster Posts: 15 Registered: Jan 28, '10 Location: Hungary |
I thought you'd never ask . There is nothing wrong with playing the material directly from hard drive, and actually our guide describes how to play ISO from the hard drive (unfortunately, you will need commercial software player - the one by Arcsoft - to do that  ). But both Blu-ray ISOs as such, and burning it will indeed provide many benefits. Benefits from burning Blu-ray: First, PC monitors are usually much smaller than TVs, so without burning users are restricted to monitors (20-24"), and with burning it can be viewed on 52" TV. It also means watching it in a comfortable armchair, etc. etc. Second, burned Blu-ray disc is something tanglible you can put into your collection (and BTW, we are going to provide disc labels to print too). While many don't care, many people do. Now about benefits of Blu-ray as such, burned or not: Third, there are certain viewing options which simply cannot be implemented with simple clips. For example, our videos consist of gameplay and action, and our members have requested a feature to watch only action (for the first view they want to watch full movie, but for the second view - they want an option to skip gameplay and concentrate on the action). Doing it with simple clips would mean creating another version of the clip, and need to re-download it; on Blu-ray it is the very same disc (downloaded only once) with two options in the menu (this you can already see on our BR disc). Another example of such feature (not implemented yet on our discs, but planned) is subtitles in different languages. To provide it for WMV we'd need to supply a separate .srt file, which user has to download, put it into specific folder, change three different settings in Windows Media Player, and then it will either work or won't work. With Blu-ray, it is as simple as selecting an option in the BR menu. Add here other user-selectable options like size of subtitles (requested by member), level of music (also requested by member), and multiple angles (over-hyped for usual movies, but potentially a very nice feature for porn) and you'll get the picture. Simple clip is just a simple clip - you cannot control it at all, for BR we can relatively easily provide many user-controlled options to enhance user experience. | |
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| 04-27-11 10:17pm - 4987 days | #8 | |
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FuckingGambler (0)
Suspended Webmaster Posts: 15 Registered: Jan 28, '10 Location: Hungary |
As it is mentioned in our guide (page "How to Play Blu-ray without burning"), the only player we've found which is able to play BR images without burning, is Arcsoft TotalMedia Theatre. Unfortunately, it is quite expensive . Still, it is a viable and supported option (if trying it, please read "How to Play Blu-ray without burning" in our guide - the process might not be obvious). | |
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| 04-28-11 12:22am - 4987 days | #9 | |
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asmith12 (0)
Active User Posts: 79 Registered: Oct 17, '07 |
Still downloading, will share experience later. If it works as I expect it - it will be one of the greatest things I've seen technology-wise in adult video scene in years. Motto: "All niches except for boring one!" | |
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| 04-28-11 02:34am - 4987 days | #10 | |
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BadMrFrosty (0)
Active User Posts: 124 Registered: Mar 05, '10 Location: Prague (Czech Republic) |
All of which can be done in the MKV container format without the ~6% overhead impossed by using m2ts. With a BD25 or god forbid a BD50 that means downloading up to 2.5 gigs more without a real benefit. I admire you for pushing the boundries like this but I think these days we are moving more and more away from physical media. Hell, with my TV I just plug in a USB hard drive and can play most media files, high def h264 included, without any extra hardware. Thats the future
Frank Zappa | |
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| 04-28-11 05:28am - 4987 days | #11 | ||
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FuckingGambler (0)
Suspended Webmaster Posts: 15 Registered: Jan 28, '10 Location: Hungary |
I am sorry, but I have to disagree. While you can get comparable video quality within MKV, feature-wise MKV is inferior to Blu-ray. Last time we've checked it, there were no menus in MKV, support for subtitles was scarce at best (and BTW SSA which is used in MKVs, is much more difficult to handle in uniform fashion than DVD or Blu-ray subtitles because of font issues), and we didn't find in MKV any support for alternative streams or user-selectable "jumps" within stream or between streams. MKV is just "yet another container format" which allows plain playback of movies, but anything more complicated (which needs some logic to be added) seems out of reach .
Well, if they'd also support playback from Blu-ray ISO file (or set of BR folders) which resides on HDD, it would be the best of both worlds, won't it? I myself is not a big fan of burning process, but nice menus, ability to select chapters, and some extras make movie watching experience significantly better for me than plain movie without any controls, except for pause/resume, which IMHO seems to come from VHS era, even if video quality is much better. | ||
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| 04-28-11 05:52am - 4987 days | #12 | |
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BadMrFrosty (0)
Active User Posts: 124 Registered: Mar 05, '10 Location: Prague (Czech Republic) |
Actually MKV is one of the most feature rich container formats available. It does support subtitles including vobsub which is the same format used on DVD's, multiple video tracks, multiple audio tracks, chapters and even menu support has been added. All of that with a smaller file size thanks to the lower overhead. Best of all its a completely open format and can be played back on a lot of different equipment when the right codecs are used. Other than the increased file size, the problem with a blu-ray iso or disc is that the player, weather hardware or software, has to be licensed which obviously is not free. This adds to the cost of the player while adding, in my opinion, no additional features. The problem with the world is stupidity. Not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? Frank Zappa | |
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| 04-28-11 06:47am - 4987 days | #13 | |
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FuckingGambler (0)
Suspended Webmaster Posts: 15 Registered: Jan 28, '10 Location: Hungary |
Just one question: have you ever seen any MKV file which supports all these features and any player/TV set (ideally hardware one) which can show them to the end-user? If not, this whole discussion about MKV features is pretty much pointless (until somebody really supports them), if yes - we could try to look at the sample and try to do it ourselves as a yet another format too (despite market for MKVs being negligible compared to Blu-rays). | |
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| 04-28-11 10:23am - 4987 days | #14 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I certainly won't be downloading any Blu-ray porn videos anytime soon. My ISP allows me only 110G per month before overcharging me for going above that amount. There is no way that I'm paying the cost involved in downloading porn files in the multiple of Gigs. I already avoid most HD videos because they are usually a little over 1 Gig for a single scene. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 04-28-11 09:28pm - 4986 days | #15 | |
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asmith12 (0)
Active User Posts: 79 Registered: Oct 17, '07 |
See my report in FuckingGamble comments. While there is a room for improvement, it IMHO is a very decent first attempt at downloadable adult Blu-rays, I'd certainly like other sites to follow the suit. Motto: "All niches except for boring one!" | |
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| 04-29-11 02:05am - 4986 days | #16 | |
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FuckingGambler (0)
Suspended Webmaster Posts: 15 Registered: Jan 28, '10 Location: Hungary |
This is one of the reasons why we provide Blu-ray ISOs in three different sizes. While the largest one indeed has bitrates about 15MBit/s, the smallest one is about 2.5-3MBit/s (it is 4.7G/3 hour movie), which is not that much by today's standards. Smallest size obviously has lower quality (roughly like DVD), but it still has all the features of the larger ones, and is also perfectly playable on hardware Blu-ray players. While I have no idea if it is good enough for you, I think mentioning this option here was a good thing. | |
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| 04-29-11 10:31am - 4986 days | #17 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
Don't get me wrong. I applaud what you have done and I'm sure many people are going to take you up on your offer but I'm not because that would limit my joining any other site simply to download blu-ray quality videos on your site. For now I'm resigned to medium quality videos and I don't mind it. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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