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05-22-10  09:16pm - 5285 days Original Post - #1
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Please help me graduate!!!

Please help me graduate!!!!

I am inviting you to participate in this research project by taking my survey. I am currently a Master?s student at Purdue University. If you are of 18 years of age or older and are willing to participate by taking my survey, please click the link below, or copy and paste the link into your browser. They survey takes about 30 minutes and has been approved by Purdue University?s Institutional Review Board (IRB). I thank you for your time and participation.

http://purdue.qualtrics.com/SE?SID=SV_0J...FhNqtZKizO&SVID=

Thank you,
Rachel Edited by Staff on May 23, 2010, 05:55am

05-23-10  02:52pm - 5284 days #2
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While there's no way to be sure, we've did a little checking and this *seems* to be a legit inquiry so we're allowing the post. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator
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05-23-10  06:06pm - 5284 days #3
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thank you for allowing it! i hope people help me by taking my survey! i am studying internet and pornography addictions through this survey. seeing if people just collect or truly become addicted. i can post my findings when my research is complete under "what makes a addiction or collection" thread if people are interested in my internet addiction/pornography addiction findings. thanks again!

05-23-10  06:23pm - 5284 days #4
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Do you think you could shave it down 20 minutes? I don't want to become addicted to surveys. lol.

05-23-10  08:02pm - 5284 days #5
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lol it doesn't take that long. i promise! my university made me list the "longest it COULD take". it takes on average 9-13 minutes.

05-23-10  09:25pm - 5284 days #6
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Sure, I'll help out a fellow Big Ten student.

05-24-10  08:43am - 5284 days #7
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I did the survey and it was painless. There are a couple of questions that I found a little ambiguous so I did my best on those.

Best of luck on this survey. Long live the Brown Coats.

05-24-10  10:23am - 5283 days #8
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Done it too!

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05-24-10  10:52am - 5283 days #9
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thanks to those who have taken it! and for those who haven't...pleaseeeeeee do!

05-24-10  12:22pm - 5283 days #10
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Originally Posted by purduerachel:


Please help me graduate!!!!

I am inviting you to participate in this research project by taking my survey. I am currently a Master?s student at Purdue University. If you are of 18 years of age or older and are willing to participate by taking my survey, please click the link below, or copy and paste the link into your browser. They survey takes about 30 minutes and has been approved by Purdue University?s Institutional Review Board (IRB). I thank you for your time and participation.

http://purdue.qualtrics.com/SE?SID=SV_0J...FhNqtZKizO&SVID=

Thank you,
Rachel


Congratulations at achieving Master. I wish you well.
Regrettably I'm gonna have to pass on the survey...but I would be willing to lend my expertise on this matter by serving on the Review Board.

05-24-10  12:42pm - 5283 days #11
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I took the survey; it's anonymous and actually quite interesting, especially if you spend a lot of time online without ever realizing how much time you actually spend online.

Best of luck, purduerachel! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

05-24-10  01:09pm - 5283 days #12
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Wouldn't this thread be more appropriate if it said "Please help me graduate, send me money because I'm broke" Crap, I'm only now just getting all my student loans paid off.

Just wanted to say that I hope use bunch of pervs has proved useful (I did take the survey). A couple of observations though: 1) Most of us are "old timers" who fall outside the younger demographic that the survey seems more geared towards. I wonder if that, in turn, would skew the results at all in that I wonder if the experience of age allows us to separate our personal feelings from decision making (making us more practical and less ideological) or, alternatively, if we just become more settled with our personal biases and find ways to rationalize our planning.

2) I actually found a lot of the value statement questions difficult because I make a distinction between my "public/work" life and my "personal life". I make work based decisions that I wouldn't advocate for personally so I found some of those questions tough.

3) The value statements were also hard because I was looking for (and found some) "double questions" (questions that are similar in nature to earlier ones but phrased differently). I'd be interested to know how/why certain value statements or assessments are related to addictiveness to porn.

05-24-10  01:18pm - 5283 days #13
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Yes, I am addicted to porn.
Also to coffee & beer.
In the sense that all are a staple of my regular diet.

All are moderated & under control.
I am comfortable with them & I don't see them individually or collectively as being a problem.

This really did not feature in the survey.
I just thought I would volunteer it for additional information.

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05-24-10  06:07pm - 5283 days #14
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I did it too, and it only took a few minutes. One thing I wondered, however, was: what's with all the questions on beastiality? Is beastiality really that popular? I never met a person who was remotely into it. Why were there no questions about other fetishes like pee-pee, voyeurism, trannies, orgies, gang-bangs, which seem to be a whole lot more popular?

Also, the questionnaire could be a lot shorter since a great many of the questions were essentially retreads of previous ones. You know what I hate the most about selfish people? It's that they don't think enough about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

05-24-10  06:34pm - 5283 days #15
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Originally Posted by WeeWillyWinky:


I did it too, and it only took a few minutes. One thing I wondered, however, was: what's with all the questions on beastiality? Is beastiality really that popular? I never met a person who was remotely into it. Why were there no questions about other fetishes like pee-pee, voyeurism, trannies, orgies, gang-bangs, which seem to be a whole lot more popular?

Also, the questionnaire could be a lot shorter since a great many of the questions were essentially retreads of previous ones.


I didn't mention it but I have to agree that I found the questions on beastiality interesting. I was not aware that it was a such a popular fetish. Long live the Brown Coats.

05-24-10  06:40pm - 5283 days #16
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Originally Posted by WeeWillyWinky:


. One thing I wondered, however, was: what's with all the questions on beastiality? Is beastiality really that popular? I never met a person who was remotely into it.


Would it be fair to say, Mr. Winky...that it appears quite clear you haven't spent a whole lot of time on farms?

05-24-10  06:41pm - 5283 days #17
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:



Just wanted to say that I hope use bunch of pervs has proved useful (I did take the survey). A couple of observations though: 1) Most of us are "old timers" who fall outside the younger demographic that the survey seems more geared towards. I wonder if that, in turn, would skew the results at all in that I wonder if the experience of age allows us to separate our personal feelings from decision making (making us more practical and less ideological) or, alternatively, if we just become more settled with our personal biases and find ways to rationalize our planning.



I noticed that the questions seemed more geared to a younger age group than most of us are. Hopefully she will get just as many if not more young people to answer her survey. That could help make a correlation between age and overall porn addiction. Long live the Brown Coats.

05-24-10  08:33pm - 5283 days #18
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Originally Posted by graymane1777:


Would it be fair to say, Mr. Winky...that it appears quite clear you haven't spent a whole lot of time on farms?


I grew up in the Hudson River Valley in upstate New York. Farms everywhere! I've spent plenty of time on farms.

Please tell me, somebody, that beastiality is not something a great many people are into! You know what I hate the most about selfish people? It's that they don't think enough about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

05-24-10  08:36pm - 5283 days #19
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I mean, hey, I like chicken as much as the next guy, but You know what I hate the most about selfish people? It's that they don't think enough about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

05-25-10  05:15am - 5283 days #20
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I wish you luck with your project. I took the survey and am not convinced that the section on porn measures anything. The questions do not get at the essence of the original research project-specifically if some are collectors and not addicts. What is your definition of collector, or of addict? How did you validate your survey? Without validation you can't really know if you are measuring what you think you are. How are you triangulating your results? In other words knowing a few facts about your respondents is fine, but how do you measure what other surveys or research methods might show? I also believe that you need a lot of questions about the motivation needed to look for porn. Surely there are other reasons than to look for beastiality or underage models. What percentage of porn collectors or addicts look for either? Do you have even a working hypothesis? If not, why ask these questions? I have an MA and did a research project using a well known survey. It had been used for years in many contexts and its validity was well researched. I found the results inadequate without triangulating against other research methods. Edited on May 25, 2010, 05:20am

05-25-10  07:17am - 5283 days #21
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The porn survey was a survey that was done before to measure pornographic usage. It has been peer reviewed and published in a journal. That was why I decided to use that one. Also, the survey that measures how often you are online has been done before to measure internet addiction. my hypothesis is taking those 2 surveys to measure the correlations with time spent online and amount of porn usage. my definitions for collector and addict are based off of literature.
as for the beastiality, i wanted to remove that section, however my professor wouldn't allow it.
i am working on my phd after i complete this research (i know, i am a huge nerd lol). i am hoping to develop my own survey which i want to focus collections.
i hope this kind of answers some of your questions. i really appreciate everyones ideas. it will help me greatly in the future when i develop other research projects and work on my phd!!!

05-25-10  01:40pm - 5282 days #22
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you should hit up the beastforums then as well; i know some people who like that stuff, typically older men who aren't heavy online users... but you won't find those people here... this site is for the regular crowd, a different type of beast ha ha ha. u can also hit up the beast groups on usenet, since if they are online, that is where many get their stash since the good stuff is hard to come by. Edited on May 25, 2010, 01:45pm

05-25-10  02:56pm - 5282 days #23
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"...as for the beastiality, i wanted to remove that section, however my professor wouldn't allow it."

Could be the Prof is into beasties. That would explain the fixation on one single, unusual fetish. Maybe he wants to find out how many others share this interest. Not saying it's true, and probably isn't; it's just a consideration. You know what I hate the most about selfish people? It's that they don't think enough about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

05-25-10  04:13pm - 5282 days #24
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haha, i suppose he could be into it...i think it was more of he didn't want me changing that survey since its been peer reviewed/validity/etc/etc... also the girl who developed it has worked with him on other computer related projects.

05-25-10  04:13pm - 5282 days #25
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btw...i'm new to this whole forum thing...but i must say i love the smileys. i really like and maybe i shouldve put the help one in the title haha Edited on May 25, 2010, 04:37pm

05-25-10  06:32pm - 5282 days #26
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Some of us have been here for a awhile, but the smileys are pretty new to all of us as we only got them a few weeks ago. They certainly seem to help to emphasize sarcasm and humor in order to avoid an angry forum, though we do pride ourselves on our civility (relative to the usual 'net standards). "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

05-26-10  10:54am - 5281 days #27
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Guess Dr. Marcus Rogers (see link) could get a whole lot of nasties out of this - man, these kind of deals........forget it - the only thing they want is to put us down in the name of 'survey' - even if it's so called legit - this one stinks......so called surveys are all over from different areas: 'hey, what's the porn-deal now?' asked the professor the students - 'find out' ect. ect. ect.


"I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" Edited on May 26, 2010, 11:11am

05-26-10  12:30pm - 5281 days #28
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the survey is measuring a variety of different things...internet usage, pornography usage, and personality correlates. sorry you thought it "stinks".

05-26-10  01:17pm - 5281 days #29
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Are you a user of pornography purduerachel?

05-26-10  03:34pm - 5281 days #30
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i watch it from time to time. i am def not against it by any means. my boyfriend uses it, and i have no problem with that.

05-26-10  03:51pm - 5281 days #31
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i got interested in this topic with so many celebrities coming out saying they are addicted to sex. i wanted to explore that. reading research articles, i started learning how much pornography is out there on the internet, which made me more curious. and i like being "edgy" studying topics that aren't really studied too much


by the way...i need more responses!! so if you're reading this and haven't taken it pleaseeeeeeee take it

05-26-10  06:45pm - 5281 days #32
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Originally Posted by purduerachel:


i got interested in this topic with so many celebrities coming out saying they are addicted to sex. i wanted to explore that.



I think the main reasons why so many celebrities have come out as sex addicts is because they are hoping to save serious money during the inevitable divorce. They figure that having their conditions diagnozed has a disease is a possible path to get away with it. What the hell it's worked for drug addict& alcoholics. How many celebrities have gotten off easy because they claimed somekind of addiction? Lindsay comes to mind at the moment.

There was an article in Newsweek recently that made a correlation between addiction to tanning beds & substance abuse. It basically said that people that are addicted to tanning beds are more likely to abuse drugs and alcohol.
How long before stars come out and use the tanning booth addiction excuse for why they were caught with cocaine?

I have a bigger curiosity about celebrities. Why are so many of them making sex tapes? Why are so many of them that did do one but didn't ever want it released not destroy the damn thing? Now that could be an interesting study. Long live the Brown Coats.

05-26-10  07:07pm - 5281 days #33
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I agree! that would be a VERY interesting study. however, studying celebs would be nearly impossible...at least for a little indiana girl. i have no idea how i would ever get into contact with a celebrity and then interview them. but yes, that would be a great study!

05-26-10  08:57pm - 5281 days #34
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I think the main reasons why so many celebrities have come out as sex addicts is because they are hoping to save serious money during the inevitable divorce. They figure that having their conditions diagnozed has a disease is a possible path to get away with it. What the hell it's worked for drug addict& alcoholics. How many celebrities have gotten off easy because they claimed somekind of addiction? Lindsay comes to mind at the moment.


I definitely agree with you here, pat362, and if it's not to head off a pricey divorce/separation (for celebrities it seems to get expensive even if they were never married) then they most likely looking to take the blame off their poor, poor shoulders, in my opinion. "Oh, I have an addiction/disease/lifelong illness, so it's really not my problem."

I would be amazed if a celebrity ever came out and just said "Uh, I fucked up; I got a bunch of money and fame and started to have fun. It's not a disease. It's not an addiction. It's me and that's it." Many of us here at PU--myself included--are pretty skeptical of something being labeled an 'addiction.' It not only misplaces blame but it also implies the existence of a 'cure,' usually offered by some asshole with an ulterior motive behind his back. For example, many of those who offer to 'treat' sex addiction--assuming it is even an addiction to begin with--do so with a religious clause attached. Seems to me you're just replacing one diversion with another, and it's probably a lot less fulfilling and fun!

Originally Posted by pat362:


There was an article in Newsweek recently that made a correlation between addiction to tanning beds & substance abuse. It basically said that people that are addicted to tanning beds are more likely to abuse drugs and alcohol.


If you ask me, somebody would have be abusing drugs or alcohol to even use a tanning bed. It would be like me paying the Russians to go hang out around Chernobyl for a while, just because I thought it improved my looks!

Not quite sure how you could even be addicted to tanning beds... "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on May 26, 2010, 09:02pm

05-26-10  09:09pm - 5281 days #35
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Originally Posted by purduerachel:


by the way...i need more responses!! so if you're reading this and haven't taken it pleaseeeeeeee take it


I responded!

05-26-10  09:13pm - 5281 days #36
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I think the main reasons why so many celebrities have come out as sex addicts is because they are hoping to save serious money during the inevitable divorce...


I tend to agree. I'm generally skeptical of that word "addiction" being thrown around with anything outside chemical addictions. I think in recent years anything and everything can be an addiction. It's used like a bargaining chip (i.e. the celeb divorces) or a way to attack or manipulate people.

05-27-10  01:18am - 5281 days #37
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For me, an addiction involves at a minimum that there are negative social consequences to behavior that has gotten out of control. It most definitely does not mean frequency of behavior. I like many things, such as chocolate cake. Am I an addict in regard to those things? Not necessarily. Look at Capn's response number 13. I have collected many things in my life, such as stamps, rare coins, postcards, baseball cards, decorative liquor bottles and unusual cigarette lighters. That is in my personality. Does that make me an addict? I am curious what the definition of addict is for the purposes of this study. You say it is "off of", I would say "from" literature. Is it consequences based or only descriptive and open to subjective opinion? Edited on May 27, 2010, 01:29am

05-27-10  07:44am - 5281 days #38
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Ok, I've maybe been a little harsh/tough on purduerachel - still do not know.......
But it's not the first time, I've experienced requests like this (else where) - and even if it's legit with the Purdue University of West Lafayette, Indiana and all - I'm still suspicious of the bottom line here - and above all: could this be some way to use this PU to publicize details about 'the porn pervs on the net' - with a political/religious right wing purpose.
Maybe I'm paranoid - and again I do not need to be here in Europe and say: I could not care less...........still?

But purduerachel - if you get this together - it'd be reasonable to place a link here to your result/paper/project or whatever... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle"

05-27-10  08:09am - 5281 days #39
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I agree with what you guys are saying about addictions. It is hard to say that someone can become addicted to something that isn't a chemical. I think research still needs to come a long way before the label can truly be applied. Internet and internet related activities aren't labeled in the DSM. Gambling just became labeled as an addiction in the DSM. I am in Technology at Purdue, and as you can assume, I know many "computer dorks", who HAVE to check their computer/phone/ipad/facebook/myspace/email/etc/etc...before they do anything else. is this an addiction? Probably not, but are they dependent on their technology? most likely. If you are interested this is an article I used when developing my literature review for my thesis as the Internet usage portion: http://www.keithadkins.com/netaddiction/...tionTestResearch.pdf
Its about Internet addiction. I think in the general population, saying you are addicted to sex is a cop out...I think celebs don't want the "bad press" of they went out and took advantage of the fact that they were a celebrity. But I really do think there are people who have addictive personality types and display addictive behaviors. However, as I said, research needs to come a long way before the labels can be place.

denner- i'm sorry you are suspicious. i understand there is no way to know whether I am legit or not...but all i can give you is my word. i am no way trying to "publicize details about 'the porn pervs on the net". and I have no political or religious purposes. I am simply a 25 year old Indiana girl who is trying to finish my Master's research. I am more than happy to post my findings once they are complete.

05-27-10  06:45pm - 5280 days #40
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Originally Posted by Denner:


Ok, I've maybe been a little harsh/tough on purduerachel - still do not know.......
But it's not the first time, I've experienced requests like this (else where) - and even if it's legit with the Purdue University of West Lafayette, Indiana and all - I'm still suspicious of the bottom line here - and above all: could this be some way to use this PU to publicize details about 'the porn pervs on the net' - with a political/religious right wing purpose.
Maybe I'm paranoid - and again I do not need to be here in Europe and say: I could not care less...........still?

But purduerachel - if you get this together - it'd be reasonable to place a link here to your result/paper/project or whatever...


Even if purduerachel is doing a strictly scientific survey and her findings are reported with absolutely no bias it can still be detrimental to our little hobby. For one, using the buzz words "porn" and "addiction" together basically broadcasts to the readers of the report, "Hey, there's a potential problem here!" She could have written a survey to determine if people become addicted to Diet Coke (which in my opinion is more likely than porn addiction) but nobody really gives a shit about Diet Coke addiction.

Then there is interpretation of the results. The findings could lean either way depending on the interpreter. (Which also means it could lean in our favor as well.)

I will give PR props for picking a cool topic for a paper. I always went for the controversial topics myself when I was back in school.

05-27-10  08:00pm - 5280 days #41
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The DSM, at least in my book ... which is pretty short on knowledge, is made out to be a lot more than what it is. It is mainly used as a diagnostical tool for medical billing, at least that's my understanding. The insurance company ain't gonna pay unless you have a DSM classified medical condition. I think that most shrinks take a more symptoms based approach in that what the condition ultimately is doesn't matter so much, it's what symptoms manifest themselves and how to contain/control those symptoms that matters. Yes, it matters whether someone is bi-polar, depressed, or whatever and the DSM can be helpful when making initial diagnosis but long term treatment is more dependent upon the individual symptoms and what works and what doesn't. The DSM is always changing anyway; homosexuality was once classified as a mental disorder and in the upcoming DSM V some autistic disorders are being reclassified or declassified. Relying on what the DSM for a definition of addiction is like asking someone what the Bible means -- whatever you want to make of it.

05-29-10  08:34am - 5279 days #42
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does anyone know of other good forums (not necessarily porn user forums) where i can put my survey too? i'm trying for high volume of responses but i don't know where to put it!

05-29-10  08:47am - 5279 days #43
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Originally Posted by purduerachel:


does anyone know of other good forums (not necessarily porn user forums) where i can put my survey too? i'm trying for high volume of responses but i don't know where to put it!

Try the Amazon forums. I'd also try Google. Just search for ________ forum, filling in just about any subject you can think of.

Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity.

05-29-10  10:37am - 5278 days #44
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You could try on adt: http://www.adultdvdtalk.com/. This is a mostly all porn forum but they get a lot of traffic.
I'd say that yahoo would be a good place as well. Long live the Brown Coats.

05-29-10  12:56pm - 5278 days #45
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Some of the other porn review sites have blogs / forums attached to them so you might want to try looking at those (Rabbitsreviews has one I know -- you can look form some at the TBP home page, on the bottom of the left hand side under "Other Great Sites".

05-31-10  03:43pm - 5276 days #46
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great! thanks for the suggestions!!

ps, anyone who hasn't taken it please do! i need moreeeeee :D


cheers!

05-31-10  03:52pm - 5276 days #47
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what is TBP?

05-31-10  04:18pm - 5276 days #48
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Originally Posted by purduerachel:


what is TBP?


"The Best Porn" - see the link on the top of the main PornUsers page.

05-31-10  04:31pm - 5276 days #49
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oh cool...thanks.

by the way...don't use amazon forums! i posted it and people are tearing it up and being really really mean!!!

05-31-10  04:46pm - 5276 days #50
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people on amazon were SO mean!!!!! i can't believe it! thank you to all of you for being so kind! i really appreciated it. they went as far to look up my name to see where else i have posted and said i was a scam and that i am completing my Master's research "all wrong". i'm just trying to get as many responses as possible

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