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04-22-10  07:50am - 5358 days Original Post - #1
nostromo (0)
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A site that uses regional pricing tactics gets a 95 score? How Come?

I believe that regional pricing tactics must be factored into the scores. Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

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04-22-10  07:52am - 5358 days #2
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Just a thought, but putting this thought you had in the replies to that review might have more impact in its value to readers. If thats what you were going for by posting in the forum. Since 2007

04-22-10  08:02am - 5358 days #3
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Originally Posted by nostromo:


I believe that regional pricing tactics must be factored into the scores.


I certainly agree with nostromo

We've had an almost endless discussion about this regional pricing ghost...
Well, like Khan stated once - it's NOT the billing companies, BUT the sites, that go for this. SO, I think it's rather logical: if some sites deny to be more global about the pricing, it's fair to let that come out in the scores..

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04-22-10  08:04am - 5358 days #4
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I'll do it. But, nonetheless, i think that regional pricing should be taken into account when awarding a score to a site. i just wanted to bring this thought to the attention of pornusers. Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

H.L. Mencken.

04-22-10  08:10am - 5358 days #5
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Thanks for your support Denner. . I hope i'm not being pushy if i ask for solidarity from our american friends. Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

H.L. Mencken.

04-22-10  08:38am - 5358 days #6
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This is one American friend who is a victim as well. For some odd reason I have the same problem. I look to Epoch whenever possible instead of CCBill. CCBill enables the sites even if it is not their doing. Epoch does not.

04-22-10  08:51am - 5358 days #7
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mbaya, i was billed by Ccbill when i joined twistys this month and they charged me 15 euros instead of 19.95 euros, much to my surprise. But, you are absolutely right, femjoy, videobox, ftv, the list is endless, have conned me -with Ccbill acting as their accomplice-.

I wonder why most pornusers consider Ccbill a better billing company than Epoch. DHD Media also has always charged me the right amount of money. Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

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04-22-10  09:08am - 5358 days #8
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I am in full agreement with nostromo.

If they are using this 'service' it ought to be flagged up & reflected in a reviews score.

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04-22-10  10:01am - 5358 days #9
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Scores in the 90's awarded to sites which use regional pricing:

from pornusers pornusers.com/review/ddfprod/

from pornusers staff thebestporn.com/review/ddfprod/

FTV used regional pricing last time i joined (two months ago), its score thebestporn.com/review/ftvgirls/

I joined femjoy a year ago and they were using regional pricing, i guess that they are still punishing europeans, its score thebestporn.com/review/femjoy/

The list is not exhaustive. Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

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04-22-10  03:19pm - 5358 days #10
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So.....what's the site name?

04-22-10  06:40pm - 5358 days #11
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I agree that sites that use regional pricing are somewhat underhanded and that it's not a bad idea to mention it but I don't know if this should be part of the score. I will sometime use the price to justify my score but that's usually because I find the content not worth that price. The fact that I might pay more based on where I live is not as important. Long live the Brown Coats.

04-25-10  02:54am - 5355 days #12
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I disagree on that, Pat.

It gives a good insight into the attitude of the Webmaster.
Surely only those who are out for the last penny they can get would stoop to using such an underhand 'service.'

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04-25-10  07:22pm - 5355 days #13
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Originally Posted by Capn:


I disagree on that, Pat.

It gives a good insight into the attitude of the Webmaster.
Surely only those who are out for the last penny they can get would stoop to using such an underhand 'service.'

Cap'n.


I don't disagree with you that regional pricing gives you an insight on a webmasters business decisions but how do you use that into the equation for the score? Does the fact that a site uses regional pricing mean that you have to deduct 10% from your final score? Long live the Brown Coats.

04-25-10  11:34pm - 5354 days #14
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I see you point about 'quantifying' it.

Other than docking some arbitrary amount like you suggested, I suppose it comes back down to the opinion of the reviewer.

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04-26-10  04:09pm - 5354 days #15
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I don't necessarily agree with the decision but a while back I recall TBP stating they no longer calculate Web site pricing into the numeric score. If that were the case I can see a 95 if the site is actually a quality product despite the pricing.

04-26-10  04:10pm - 5354 days #16
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BTW, regional pricing is not necessarily bad if it works in the consumer's favor. I'm guessing it wasn't on this mystery site.

04-26-10  11:34pm - 5353 days #17
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Regional pricing always means somebody is getting ripped, so; no it isn't.

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04-27-10  12:06pm - 5353 days #18
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I've advocated knocking sites a few points if they engage in regional pricing. I know that TBP doesn't do it because they don't factor price into the score. However, since PU is more wide ranging I encourage handing out an occasional bitch slap to sites that employ this practice. Yes, it's often the billing processors that drive the practice but the site itself has the power to end the practice. If you want to stamp out regional pricing, you have show sites that there are negative consequences for doing so.

I actually find it hard to believe that sites go along with this ploy. OK, they can make more money, usually off the Euro pervs but they have to realize that some people aren't going to sign up for a site if they realize they're getting ripped off. No other businesses that I know of charge more for products just because someone lives "here" as opposed to "there". People would bitch and complain and eventually go somewhere else. I don't know why porn sites think they have found financial nirvana by going along with something that potentially hurts their bottom line and reputation more than the few extra dollars flowing their way. Processing companies don't care, they make money off of each transaction and that's what they want to maximize. Porn sits, at least good ones, are like all businesses and need to include more long range planning. Thus, you have competing interests at work and it seems like the processors are winning.

I'm sure the billing companies roll out a nice powerpoint slide or two showing that regional pricing increases revenue but websites need to remember who is feeding them this information and if, just maybe, the conflict of interest that is really at work here is perhaps skewing the data at all. Besides this "data" isn't going to show long term consequences of people who decide to go somewhere else because of the price disparity. People don't like to feel as though they're getting ripped off so you have to figure this is going to come back and bite you some day.

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