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| 09-01-14 09:50am - 3765 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
the danger of cloud based systems I am not a fan of cloud based systems because I don't want my stuff to be saved on anybody else's system. I don't care what security system they claim to have or that the content can never be accessed by their operator because I honestly don't believe them and after last nights episode than I suspect many celebrities don't either. I'm not sure how many of you have heard that a hacker or possibly a group of hackers got access to many celebrities private pictures saved in icloud. Some of the pictures are of the innocent kind but for most of the celebrities. The vast majority were not and some are of the very graphic. Suffice it to say that there are now a bunch of celebrities regretting uploading content to a cloud based system. that and probably taking the pics in the first place. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 09-01-14 10:28am - 3765 days | #2 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Its just as easy to buy a 2TB drive and save your stuff. Then I know where it is. If you do not like the Government  having your information why in the hell would people trust a private business to do as well. Since 2007 | |
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| 09-01-14 02:47pm - 3765 days | #3 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
Sorry if I seem a bit confused - aren't those two entities the same? If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee. If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! | |
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| 09-01-14 05:00pm - 3765 days | #4 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
^Not by a long shot. The government may use some of your data to accuse you of a crime but they won't use it to sell you stuff you don't want or sell your information to other companies that will do the same. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 09-02-14 07:46am - 3764 days | #5 | |
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AWpress (0)
Active Webmaster  Posts: 118 Registered: Nov 20, '12 Location: The Netherlands |
Society is in the throes of information adolescence; we're having growing pains as we deal with how insufficient traditional concepts of privacy are in the information age. The solution will be for us to re-imagine what privacy is, and when it can be presumed. In the past, privacy could be presumed more or less most of the time, even in public places. Nowadays, privacy can only be presumed if you've taken active steps to create it. At all other times we must consider that our words and actions are no longer private. It sucks, but it's just one of the negative ramifications of a generally positive information revolution. | |
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| 09-02-14 08:28am - 3764 days | #6 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
When I was a kid, you could crank call people and , you know your 10 and you call random people asking if they have prince albert in a can kinda stuff. Many a person was also harassed then Caller ID came along, and call blocking. Now smart phones can be tracked, we have hidden camera everywhere. People used to hide there smut under a bed, now its on drives that when you die all the world will see you were a pervert.  .Take a look at donwblouse and upskirt sites and see how people are violated in public and can do nothing about it really. I am old school so to me privacy is huge and the violation very obvious. Facebook, how many " idiots in my book " Hey everyone, me and the misses will be gone two weeks in the Bahamas. My sister said she would watch our dogs at her ranch thats great. See you guys later kinda crap. YOU JUST TOLD ANYONE THAT KNOWS YOU, YOU ARE GONE FROM YOUR HOME AND NO ONE IS THERE. I see it all the time and it floors me. Since 2007 | |
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| 09-02-14 10:50am - 3764 days | #7 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
It's best to be careful about what you put in cloud accounts. Anything you put in a cloud could come falling down on your head -- and I ain't no Chicken Little! Rule of Thumb: If my own mother shouldn't see it, it doesn't go there. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 09-03-14 06:15am - 3763 days | #8 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
Perhaps you missed the subtle point that it's corporations that run the government (at least in the USA) so to me there is no difference. Maybe the government doesn't sell your information (or at least you think they don't), but does that really make you feel safe? If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee. If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! | |
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| 09-03-14 09:19am - 3763 days | #9 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
I'm so glad this thread surfaced. I purchased real player some time ago, and ever since "cloud" is in a no-parking zone at the right corner of my task bar ....seemingly without any thought of moving. After download of real player they've been bugging me relentlessly to complete the download by registering and activating the free cloud .....so's I can reap the full benefit. Red flags went up everywhere! Every time I boot up they're sitting there ..... cup in hand with promises, promises and more promises. I strongly suspect they've gone ahead and started packing in everything of value I've downloaded even though I haven't authorized it ....anymore they just remind me its going in the cloud vault. Even being the novice I am .... my first thought all of it is earmarked for buyer sites, or other opportunist for profit. | |
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| 09-03-14 10:02am - 3763 days | #10 | |
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biker (0)
Active User  Posts: 632 Registered: May 03, '08 Location: milwaukee, wi |
I finally bought a new computer game after ten years of playing my favorites and wanting something new. To my surprise, I have to be part of a client server called Steam. Now any member can see everything I do with the game. How well I play and how often. We live in a strange new world, now that we have the internet. You give up some of your privacy the minute you enter this vast universe. Friends and family want me to join one of those social networks, but your not just sending your thoughts to a few friends, but to the whole world. That is not what I want. I like my life kept private. Might as well live in a glass house. Warning Will Robinson | |
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| 09-03-14 11:24pm - 3762 days | #11 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
I use that prog we use other means of communication. Since 2007 | |
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| 09-04-14 07:30am - 3762 days | #12 | |
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AWpress (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 118 Registered: Nov 20, '12 Location: The Netherlands |
Steam raises a good counterpoint; this is a non-invasive, generally ethical piece of cloud software (I'd say). By that, I mean, they don't have misleading or predatory terms and practises, and don't use the software as a bait and switch to load up your computer with DRM and malware (like aforementioned real player). Rather, it is a pretty straight forward, what-you-see-is-what-you-get cloud games market - they let you buy games, hosting your user profile in the cloud. The main benefit of that is having your games collection bought and paid for, stored online- on a different computer you can log in as yourself, and have access to your games and save files. Pretty cool. The downside, for some, is that you play in a public space. That said, having a public profile on a service like steam is not too different from eating at a cafe in town. Everyone can see you, what you ordered, what you eat, what you don't eat, and how fast you eat it. Nobody cares, though, because there are millions of people eating in public every day, and it's just not remarkable. So it is with steam; why should a stranger care to view your profile amongst millions? Why should you care that they might? What about someone you know? How would they find your profile? This returns me to the idea that in the internet age, privacy only exists when you actively create it. In the case of a steam example, you would want to register an account from a unique email address, and keep it's details hidden (refuge in anonymity). Or, buy your games off good old games (gog.com) which is not 'in the cloud'. The internet is becoming more and more like the mall, and less like the wild west. This isn't all bad; it's more convenient and bountiful, and the culture is a little more civil. Unlike the mall, though, it's still totally acceptable for you to walk around in a balaclava, if that's what you want to do. | |
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| 09-04-14 01:01pm - 3762 days | #13 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
Here's a link to an interesting article about the "dark web" and the motivation behind people hacking into cloud accounts (most of the stuff hacked is never publicly shared). Regarding the celeb cell phone hacks it sounds like somebody tried to profit off it and made a big oops by doing so. https://www.nikcub.com/posts/notes-on-the-celebrity-data-theft/ | |
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| 09-05-14 12:24am - 3761 days | #14 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
It's quite possible none of those involved purposely uploaded or backed up said content, or were even aware that their iPhones were set to do so. And let's be honest here; who among us are aware of all our current privacy settings on our phones? It's easy enough to turn off this automatic backup bullshit on an iPhone, but given the vulnerability of its iCloud service it should've originally been set to "Off" by Apple's engineers in the first place. Perhaps, as many "Don't do X" critics have been hinting at, Apple figured consumers would take their late CEO's bizarre anti-porn stance seriously and "buy and [sic] Android phone" instead. More realistically, though, a heroic amount of porn is processed through Apple products, including their phones. And in the modern digital age it shouldn't be too much to ask for a company as rich as Apple (and now as "outraged," too) to actually provide some decent security for its users' privacy--regardless of what the content is. Who knows, maybe the celebrities will sue Apple as well and it may actually take some responsibility as a result.  "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 09-13-14 03:15am - 3753 days | #15 | |
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jd1961 (0)
Active User  Posts: 296 Registered: Jun 07, '07 |
Go into your program files, and find the Real Cloud folder. Hidden inside is an uninstall folder which you can use to get rid of it. If it doesn't work, reinstall RP and do it again. You aren't the only one complaining of this! | |
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| 09-22-14 09:34am - 3744 days | #16 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Having a could based system is the equivalent to locking your front door and leaving the back opened. In 1991 M$ claimed the security on their OS was safe and secure and well we all know that WinX until very recently is one of the most insecure system and without 3rd party modifications we all would be screwed by now. The cloud systems are flawed in they rely on one technology that if hacked that it bye bye data. You wont see me on my life time putting data out there like this. I am so old school the computers I once used had punch card so this is not something I cant approve of using. Since 2007 | |
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| 09-22-14 01:56pm - 3744 days | #17 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
^Not a bad analogy but about this one. It's like storing all your personal stuff in a public storage area where you supposedly are the only one with a key (except the owners of the storage unit) but anyone with enough time can open your locker and steal your stuff. I am of the belief that few people do something for nothing and that no corporation does that so why would they offer free storage on their servers if it wasn't going to be beneficial to them now or in the near future. on a related note. If celebrities thought that they had seen the end of those released photos and videos then tis weekend was another wake up call. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 09-22-14 08:15pm - 3744 days | #18 | |
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thirstyfish (0)
Active User  Posts: 30 Registered: May 20, '13 |
^ Well said, Pat. It's often noted that if you're using a free service (such as Google, Dropbox, FaceBook, etc.) you are not the customer; you are the product. Cybertoad - mentioning punch cards brings back some memories - some of them not too fond. As in not punching the cards with sequence numbers and then dropping your deck. Ever use one of the Univac 1004 monsters? State of the art back in the day. You could submit your job (card deck) remotely - yourself, no less. And watch the output get printed on 132 column, tractor-feed, green bar paper. Wheeee. Computing has definitely gotten better in many respects. As for the "Cloud" - lots of marketing hype and very insecure - whether you pay the cloud provider or it's a freebie. And it's yet another single point of failure. Porn happens because a large number of things amazingly fail to go wrong. | |
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| 09-22-14 10:20pm - 3743 days | #19 | |
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biker (0)
Active User Posts: 632 Registered: May 03, '08 Location: milwaukee, wi |
After I graduated from high school, I got work emptying all the wastepaper in an major department store chain accounting office. They had this large room, where two shifts of people typed info on to thousands of those damn cards for input into, a then state of the art, IBM 360. When finished the cards were tossed, since now the information was on a reel of tape. A single card is nothing, but I had to lift barrels of them every night to be dumped into a container and their weight was extreme. And you mentioned the green lined paper. They would create reports on that paper that were several inches thick and when they were done I had barrels of that to toss as well. It is surprising I excepted computers so well after that initial experience with them. By Friday the over-sized waste container with its own hydraulic compacter could not hold it all and I had to leave barrels full of computer generated paper sitting on the dock. That was 1970. One hell of a year for me.  I was fortunate to get work in a machine shop running lathes and milling machines the following year. The shop even took the time to teach me to set up my own jobs. But that is another story. Warning Will Robinson | |
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| 09-24-14 05:45pm - 3742 days | #20 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
^We are in 2014 and I take care of part of the recycling in our company and we are still using paper like there was no end. Just an example. We fill out our time sheet on the computer but we have to print a copy so that the boss can sign it and give it to payroll. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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