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07-19-09  06:27pm - 5635 days Original Post - #1
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Stand-Up Comedians

Just wondering if anyone enjoys these shows and has some favorites. Anyone seen anyone live and thought it was worth it? The prices seem pretty high. I saw Dane Cook for $10 at my college and I found the live show to be 10x better than TV. While I'm not a huge fan of Dane Cook, I was surprised how much better he was live than when I watch TV (plus this was a bit before he was hugely famous, so I think that might have helped).

Some of my favotites are Mitch Hedburg (RIP), Dave Attell, Lewis C.K., Phil Hartman (RIP) and Pablo Francisco. I wish more comedian shows would come to my area, the most recent I remember was Dave Attell but it was over $50 for a ticket and I was broke at the time. I'm betting some people here were Carlin fans, he is like one of the old school originals that really pioneered stand up delivery. Anyone ever see the ventriloquist (forget his name)? I think he's pretty good at what he does and it seems quite entertaining.

Will be interesting to see who everyone likes, the style of comedian can kinda show peoples personality when it comes to humor they enjoy. Sexted From My iPad

07-19-09  08:48pm - 5635 days #2
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Yeah - I am forever, first and foremost, a Carlin fan. For current comedians, here's my list.

After that, my number one is Lewis Black 'cuz he rants my rants. He's angry like I'm angry. Next, Jeff Dunham for taking ventriloquism to a new level. Frank Caliendo - one of the best celebrity impersonators I've ever heard. And I love Rodney Carrington - kind of an X-rated Jeff Foxworthy. For the rest of the list, including past and present comedians, there's Wanda Sykes, Ralphie May, Robin Williams, Ron White, Eddie Izzard, Bill Maher, Victor Borge, Lisa Lampanelli, Richard Pryor (of course?), Flip Wilson, Sam Kinison and Steven Wright.

All in all, I'd have to say, the more sarcastic and cynical they are, the more bite they put into their act, the more I like 'em. But I also like what I guess you'd call storytellers - that's how G and PG rated guys like Victor Borge and Flip Wilson make it to my list of otherwise R rated performers. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. Edited on Jul 20, 2009, 01:27am

07-19-09  08:59pm - 5635 days #3
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Jeff Dunham, that's his name! That guy is extremely entertaning in his shows. I cannot believe I forgot to mention Richard Pryor, he's probably one of the best comedians out there and his stand ups even stand up (for a lack of a better term) to the 'test of time'. Meaning, even now I can relate and laugh at his jokes even though they are quite old. Kinison is another one I forgot. I'm thinking I'm going to take a walk down memory lane with some more posts in this thread. Great list RagingBuddhist, I'll have to look up some of those names I don't recognize. Sexted From My iPad

07-19-09  09:44pm - 5634 days #4
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One of the true masters of sarcastic humor for me was Bill Hicks. I remember the first time I saw one of his shows. He starts talking about how he hates hippies and California, he ends the line with, "I can't wait to buy real estate on Arizona Bay". The band Tool was so influenced by his humor that they made a song around that quoted line. I like Ron White that Raging Buddhist mentioned, his set on doing comedy during baccalaureate parties is hilarious. "They had little drinks with little penis shaped straws". I went to a Larry the Cable Guy show despite not caring for the southern redneck humor, but I thought he was quite entertaining live. Pryor and Redd Foxx were the ones that first sparked my interest in comedy. I still have a...beta format tape of Redd Fox's Brown Paper Bag show. As corny as he can be, Bill Cosby was a truly funny guy in his prime, he didn't use any gimmicks or need a genre for his comedy. Never cared for Andrew Dice Clay, but did like his dirty nursery rhymes.

One of my colleagues took my wife and I to see Dane Cook. I thought he was okay, very funny one minute, just so-so the next minute. Like a lot of current comics he tries too hard to be too many things at once. He has the sarcasm going, the straight-forward comedy and the X-rated comedy. Eddie Murphy was good in the 80s. I still remember his homemade hamburger bit.

Forgot two, Bernie Mac and George Lopez together several years back in the "Free Los Angeles" show. The two just fed off each other all night. It was one of the best shows I've seen.

I would crown Pryor though. I have a double cd from early in his career called "Evolution/Revolution" that is probably the best comedy I've heard. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk Edited on Jul 19, 2009, 09:48pm

07-20-09  02:06am - 5634 days #5
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Oh, boy. This is a good topic. I'm just going to list a lot whom I like, even though some have passed on (God bless 'em): George Carlin (especially later material), Joan Rivers (a true master), Richard Pryor, Chris Rock, Louis C.K., Joe Rogan (the "Tiger Sex" routine almost killed me), Lenny Bruce (devastating!), Jim Gaffligan (see the "Hot Pockets" routine! Also love his little "critic's voice" that he adds to his act -- "He's wearing his mother's blouse!"), and Frank Gorshin for his great impressions ...

I also want to acknowledge Carol Burnett. Her TV show had some of the funniest comedy I'd ever seen. It was "clean fun," I suppose, but it touched on issues that a lot of people have. It lasted something like 11 seasons. I'd laugh so hard sometimes it hurt. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

07-20-09  05:02am - 5634 days #6
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07-20-09  10:36am - 5634 days #7
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To me, Carlin is the king. I respect anybody who so successfully pissed off so many people for so many years, and all in the name of comedy. :)

Lewis Black is a wonderful mix of anger and cynicism, and I prefer his stand up specials over his cable and network TV appearances. The Daily Show is well done, but way too restrictive for him, like the late night talk shows he has performed on.

Bill Maher is probably my favorite living comedian, and seems to be more comfortable on HBO ("Real Time with Bill Maher") than he ever was on ABC in the '90s and early 2000s, when he was eventually fired in the post 9/11 hysteria. He still has to deal with a lot of celebrities and politicians on his current show, who can drag it down, but he is so frank and forward in his comedy that I always find something to laugh at.

Oh, and Patton Oswalt is just goofy, dumb fun. He has no reservations about making fun of himself, especially as a fat, nerdy loser. His rants about fast food, his increasing weight, and his love of comic books and Star Wars are hilarious. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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07-20-09  11:37am - 5634 days #9
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


Then there's the whole late night tv genre. Carson ruled and formed the entity as we know it today. Letterman has gone surley and only hints at what he used to be. Conan is OK. Jimmy Kimmel relies too much on gimmicks like his security guard which are getting stale, and Jimmy Fallon holds no interest for me. By far the best are John Stewart with the "Daily Show" and Craig Ferguson with his self depricating story telling ways. Both are consistently funny which is hard to do 5 x a week.


Kind of agree with you here. My personal favorite was Conan before he went to 11:35 with "The Tonight Show." I am worried it is going to soften his comedy into a more boring mainstream filler, and from what I have seen of his newer show, this seems to be happening.

I like "The Daily Show," but prefer "The Colbert Report" (both on which actually only do it 4 times a week :) ). I think Stewart relies too heavily on video clips and correspondents. Colbert seems to really lose himself in the insanity of his character, and as a result is much more independent. His ridiculous field interviews, sketches, and the way he mocks his guests (and the overall silliness of the media and the modern day 24 hour news anchor in general) add up to an unpredictable but entertaining show. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

07-20-09  01:20pm - 5634 days #10
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Originally Posted by Khan:


What, no Sam Kinison fans?


Hey! You missed one!
(See my post above)
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07-20-09  01:56pm - 5634 days #11
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Oh, and let's not forget the Smothers Brothers. Their show getting cancelled even though it was popular was one of those little things that showed that whoever owned the media was not very pleased with their political commentary. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


Hey! You missed one!


I did indeed. :)

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07-20-09  02:24pm - 5634 days #13
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I couldn't begin to post an all inclusive list of comedians I like. Reading this thread, I see there'd always be someone I missed.

Let's add another flavor to this thread - comedians you can't stand. It surprised me that no one's mentioned Howard Stern. Ever the one to go against popular opinion, I wish he'd just disappear already. It only took a couple of months of listening to him back in the late 80's to realize that he isn't funny. He's done the same "let me see your boobs" humor year after year after year. It got old real quick here.

It surprised me that I don't like Dave Chappelle. I noticed that I'd see him on TV and I just wasn't laughing. Every time I try to give him another chance and watch something he's done, I just don't laugh. So, I think it's safe to say he don't do it fer me. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity.

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07-20-09  02:56pm - 5634 days #15
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I would classify Howard Stern as more of an entertainer than a comedian; much as one would classify Rush Limbaugh as a big fat idiot as opposed to a political guru or Fox News as being as fair and balanced as a double decker bus making a u-turn going 50 mph ;)

I sort of miss the variety of shows I saw as a kid like the Smothers Brothers, Carol Burnett show, Laugh-In (reruns for me, I ain't that old) and some of those. They had comedy and entertainment even though they we're a bit cheesy they sort of played off of that. I think some station tried to resurrect the genre with Wayne Brady (black comedian who offends no one) a few years ago but that bombed. Given how much tv is cutting back, I guess the new Leno format this Fall is about as close as we're going to get. However, I think there would be room for something similar again given that the shows wouldn't cost much to produce.


Glad you mentioned Wayne Brady. He did a funny skit with Dave Chappelle in which he "resurrects" himself from that clean-cut image to something far more, er, "gangsta" I suppose you could say. He pimps and at one point, when a ho doesn't have the money he wants, he inquires thus: "Is Wayne Brady gonna hafta choke a bitch?" It's on YouTube.

I always liked Wayne Brady and he should get more recognition. He was certainly the most talented person on "Whose Line Is It Anyway?" I'd suffer through the more mediocre performers to catch the next thing that Wayne would do. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

07-20-09  04:51pm - 5634 days #16
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Let's add another flavor to this thread - comedians you can't stand. It surprised me that no one's mentioned Howard Stern. Ever the one to go against popular opinion, I wish he'd just disappear already. It only took a couple of months of listening to him back in the late 80's to realize that he isn't funny. He's done the same "let me see your boobs" humor year after year after year. It got old real quick here.
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I wouldn't include Stern here, simply because he is not a stand up comedian (I think part of his popularity in radio is due to not having to actually see him, same with Limbaugh), and I don't even consider him a comedian at that. I can't stand radio anyway -- outdated technology that listeners have little to no control over -- and I blame Stern for the flood of dumb male radio hosts since he got big in the 1980s. They are too many to count, but I am sure we can think of a few.

Though I know other members think differently, one comedian I absolutely can't stand is Chris Rock -- his voice cuts through me like a rusty butter knife. I am sure he is funny, but after a few minutes of hearing him I have to either be heavily medicated or receive fresh air.

Not a big fan of the redneck and blue collar comedians either, particularly Jeff Foxworthy. When their humor gets more general, rather than just address their own personal culture, it can be funny, but it seems to be only a small part of their acts. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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I've never really been a large fan of comedians who use political satire as a means for a comedy routine. While Stewart and Colbert are doing shows, they are well done for what they are but when it comes to stand-up routines if the show is all about politics it drives me up the wall. Most of the time, this form of routines end up being borderline 'preachy' and that can come off as arrogance in my book (sorry turboshaft, but the best example for this is Bill Maher). I am a huge fan of extremely dry humor but I like it in the form of discussions about everyday normal activities that I can relate to. That's why I really liked Mitch Hedburg's routines because he was so off the wall and dry that once you got the joke, you would laugh your ass off later. Phil Hartman did this extremely well too. The other type of comedian I enjoy is just the downright goofy people like Dave Attell. This guy keeps his routines so off the wall goofy and dirty that I can't help but laugh at the jokes he says.

If anyone can remember any names of televised routines of their favorite comedians, I'd like to know some. My netflix queue is empty these days and I would not mind checking some shows out with some comedians I do not not know well. Sexted From My iPad

07-20-09  06:13pm - 5634 days #18
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Oh, and let's not forget the Smothers Brothers. Their show getting cancelled even though it was popular was one of those little things that showed that whoever owned the media was not very pleased with their political commentary.


The Smothers Bros were great at looking so straight and being so subversive. That was the great thing about the 60's - lots of people caught the bug to stir things up.

I remember watching their show as a kid and marvelling at what they were saying - and the round-about ways that they had to say it to stay on the air as long as possible.

I'm a believer that, frequently, great art gets created because of restrictions. The fact that The Smothers Bros knew they had to contend with the censors made them better - very much like the screwball comedies of the 30's and forties.

Once comedians could curse as much as they wanted, most of them got extremely lazy and "motherfucker" became the most common punchline - and lost all it's impact, as a result.

Carlin was brilliant. Bill Hicks was brilliant.

Rodney Dangerfield doing stand-up might be my all-time fave for his sheer "musicality". He would start going and get in a rhythm and cadence that got more intense as he went along - and it was so mesmerizing and brilliant that it hardly mattered what he was saying - you were just carried along by the way that he was saying it - plus his material was fucking hysterical.

"The Aristocats" is my favorite movie about the art of stand-up comedy.

07-21-09  12:58am - 5633 days #19
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No one mentioned Seinfeld. My opinion? His show was great but as a stand up comedian he isn't so hot!

07-22-09  09:26am - 5632 days #21
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No one mentioned Seinfeld. My opinion? His show was great but as a stand up comedian he isn't so hot!


I can honestly say I never even seen a stand up routine by Seinfeld with the exception of his tid bits he would do at the end of his show. If they are anything like these small clips, I can see myself liking them because he did talk about one of my favorite topics which is just everyday things that can be observed by everyone and relate. Yes, the voice thing he does can get annoying but the topics in the show and his small stand up clips were quite funny. The show could be one of the greatest of all times in terms of this type of humor. Sexted From My iPad

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Anybody recall Ritch Shydner. His "Canyonman" and "I got a women" gags are still ones that I think of from time-to-time. He's one you can listen to with the kids or your mother-in-law... no foul language.

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07-22-09  12:45pm - 5632 days #23
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The Smothers Bros were great at looking so straight and being so subversive. That was the great thing about the 60's - lots of people caught the bug to stir things up.

I remember watching their show as a kid and marvelling at what they were saying - and the round-about ways that they had to say it to stay on the air as long as possible.

I'm a believer that, frequently, great art gets created because of restrictions. The fact that The Smothers Bros knew they had to contend with the censors made them better - very much like the screwball comedies of the 30's and forties.

Once comedians could curse as much as they wanted, most of them got extremely lazy and "motherfucker" became the most common punchline - and lost all it's impact, as a result.

Carlin was brilliant. Bill Hicks was brilliant.

Rodney Dangerfield doing stand-up might be my all-time fave for his sheer "musicality". He would start going and get in a rhythm and cadence that got more intense as he went along - and it was so mesmerizing and brilliant that it hardly mattered what he was saying - you were just carried along by the way that he was saying it - plus his material was fucking hysterical.

"The Aristocats" is my favorite movie about the art of stand-up comedy.


The only things I'm not familiar with are Bill Hicks and "The Aristocats." To everything else you said, I say, "Yes, that's RIGHT!" Good insights into comedic work. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

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I can honestly say I never even seen a stand up routine by Seinfeld with the exception of his tid bits he would do at the end of his show.


Google for Seinfeld Stand Up - there are a few long clips of him on youtube and other sites. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity.

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Yeah - I am forever, first and foremost, a Carlin fan. For current comedians, here's my list.

After that, my number one is Lewis Black 'cuz he rants my rants. He's angry like I'm angry. Next, Jeff Dunham for taking ventriloquism to a new level. Frank Caliendo - one of the best celebrity impersonators I've ever heard. And I love Rodney Carrington - kind of an X-rated Jeff Foxworthy. For the rest of the list, including past and present comedians, there's Wanda Sykes, Ralphie May, Robin Williams, Ron White, Eddie Izzard, Bill Maher, Victor Borge, Lisa Lampanelli, Richard Pryor (of course?), Flip Wilson, Sam Kinison and Steven Wright.

All in all, I'd have to say, the more sarcastic and cynical they are, the more bite they put into their act, the more I like 'em. But I also like what I guess you'd call storytellers - that's how G and PG rated guys like Victor Borge and Flip Wilson make it to my list of otherwise R rated performers.



In this case my taste is just the opposite of yours. I love the story tellers. Newhart, Borge, Wilson, were some of my favorites. I know that dates me! :-) I also loved comedians like Richard Pryor, George Carlin etc. on G rated shows but disliked them on R-rated cable. Strangely enough, seeing that I'm a porn lover, I don't like x-rated language in my comedians.

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The only things I'm not familiar with are Bill Hicks and "The Aristocats." To everything else you said, I say, "Yes, that's RIGHT!" Good insights into comedic work.


A lot of people missed Bill Hicks, he passed away to cancer at 32. From what I remember, he was big on the east coast and west coast, but hardly known in-between. David Letterman said after his passing, "He made me laugh as much as anyone has, and he made me think more than anyone ever will". Roseanne and Tom Arnold were huge fans of his too. Most likely, he would have been one of the best known comedians if not for the cancer. Youtube has a lot of his clips. I think a good introduction to his work on youtube is "Christ and Christians". My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

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Hicks was from Texas, right? I happened on him flipping stations on a hotel cable tv and seeing a rare appearance on Comedy Central - blew me away - and I happened to be with a friend from Texas who was really familiar with him.

Oh, and I meant "The Aristocrats" - The Aristocrats is a really foul joke with a very basic style that comedians have told to each other for years to practice their craft but rarely ever performed in public. Penn Jillette made a movie about it with a friend and it's amazing seeing all kind of comedians riffing on it - starting with George Carlin doing it and then breaking it down in great detail.

There's a fabulous scene of Gilbert Gottfried performing at a roast for Hugh Hefner very soon after 9/11 - he started joking about the difficulty of directing taxis in NY without the former landmarks - when the audience starting yelling "Too soon! Too soon!", he retaliated by telling The Aristocrats - I wasn't a fan of Gottfied until I saw that.

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Hicks was from Texas, right? I happened on him flipping stations on a hotel cable tv and seeing a rare appearance on Comedy Central - blew me away - and I happened to be with a friend from Texas who was really familiar with him.

Oh, and I meant "The Aristocrats" - The Aristocrats is a really foul joke with a very basic style that comedians have told to each other for years to practice their craft but rarely ever performed in public. Penn Jillette made a movie about it with a friend and it's amazing seeing all kind of comedians riffing on it - starting with George Carlin doing it and then breaking it down in great detail.

There's a fabulous scene of Gilbert Gottfried performing at a roast for Hugh Hefner very soon after 9/11 - he started joking about the difficulty of directing taxis in NY without the former landmarks - when the audience starting yelling "Too soon! Too soon!", he retaliated by telling The Aristocrats - I wasn't a fan of Gottfied until I saw that.


I had to check on that since he didn't have a recognizable accent. He is listed as being from Arkansas, which would explain his popularity in Texas as well. Though I tend to stay away from religious discussions, his joke about Christians was one those that was funny and made you think. "Why do Christians wear crosses? Do you really think if Jesus came back he would want to see a cross?" As he furthered it, it just became even more twisted and funnier with the wearing a machine gun pendant around Jackie O. One thing that I think made him as good as he was, he often laughed at his own jokes as if to say, "Damn, I didn't realize how funny that was until I said it". My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

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