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| 11-28-09 02:50am - 5503 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Bonus Sites AAAARRGGGHHH! These always really bug me. You decide you want to subscribe to a site, because you like its content, for whatever reason. Along with your subscription, you are 'given' access to x number of bonus sites, usually of limited interest, if any. Also they are often licensed, of varying quality & quantity, & often of no relevance to the subject matter of the site you wished to join. Why don't webmasters / billing companies offer the option of whether you want the 'bonus' sites & if you don't reduce the subscription rate some? There..Feel better now! ;0) Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award Hilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 11-28-09 03:40am - 5503 days | #2 | |
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picdude (0)
Active User Posts: 107 Registered: Dec 26, '08 Location: Italy |
It could be that the amount they pay for the bonus sites may be a lot less than you think, such that the bonus sites make the site look bigger but it would not make sense to give a discount to not include them. Ie webmaster pays $1000/month for bonus sites making site look bigger, if they reduce the price by just a buck after a thousand people they would start to lose money. Perhaps one just needs to see it as an added perk. I must admit there have been one or two sites I've joined that I spent less than a couple of hours surfing and I spent the rest of my time on the bonus sites since the orginal site was soo bare. | |
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| 11-28-09 01:12pm - 5502 days | #3 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Well, that probably is symptomatic of the 'Bonus Site' / Network ethos. If you gloss over a wide subject area of content, without going into any depth on any of the sites, that is probably what you are going to end up with. ;0/ Personally I don't really see them as a 'perk.' :0( Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award Hilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 11-28-09 04:05pm - 5502 days | #4 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
It's rare to get "bonus" material that isn't a letdown. It's not like sprinkles on ice cream. It's more like crappy bonus merchandise from a credit card company, or the schlock from Publishers Clearinghouse (if they're still doing that). I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 11-28-09 04:27pm - 5502 days | #5 | |
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exotics4me (0)
Active User  Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
I guess it would depend on the bonus sites and the site you joined to get the bonus sites. Like the 21st Sextury bonus sites. They used to charge $29.95 for say Club Sandy, then they started adding 20 bonus sites for the same $29.95 price. When it is a situation like this, I have no problem with bonus sites. The best two examples though are Teen Dreams and Twistys. Teen Dreams price stayed the same, but they added the Viv Thomas bonus content. That's a major bonus. Twistys with the low updating, but still worth a one time visit Anette Dawn, Nicole Graves, Blue Fantasies sites. These three are still the same price they were before the bonus content was added. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |
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| 11-28-09 05:00pm - 5502 days | #6 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
The term bonus is a major exageration when used in the context of extra material offered by a website. I've never joined one site that offered bonus material that wasn't crappy leased stuff of Z grade quality. Either because I don't join bad sites, but I don't see those stupid streming videos that used to populate many websites about 6yrs ago. I don't consider access to a complete network when joining one site as actual bonus material. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 11-28-09 05:02pm - 5502 days | #7 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
I like Teen Dreams main site & I have been a member for quite a few months, but I could quite happily live without their bonus content.... ...and do! ;0) Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award Hilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! Edited on Nov 28, 2009, 05:06pm | |
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| 11-28-09 05:04pm - 5502 days | #8 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
I quite agree. :0/ Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award Hilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 11-28-09 08:09pm - 5502 days | #9 | |
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exotics4me (0)
Active User Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
I can understand that, but the Teen Dreams bonus content is a pretty large draw. The main point I was making is that not all bonus content is useless. I'm a member right now on Teen Dream and have downloaded 8 videos from the Viv videos bonus content only 6 from TD itself, over the last 3 days. I know one of their staff members had mentioned that a lot of members don't realize that the Viv videos are downloadable. The pictures however aren't zip downloadable on the Viv bonus content part. The videos run 640 high end, iffy 1000 bitrate, but it is all of the same videos that Viv's video site charges $30 a month for, for 640 high end, 2000 bitrate. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |
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| 11-29-09 01:02am - 5502 days | #10 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
Exotics has a point. I'd say the TeenDreams Viv Thomas bonus content is certainly better than the average bonus site content, at least as far as pics are concerned. You don't get zips, and they're 1024px, but they're professionally done and there's loads of them in a growing collection. The video collection grows there, too, but I'm not terribly thrilled by the quality on offer. There's only so low you can go before something free is simply not worth getting. Those 1000 bitrate VivThomas vids might look OK on a Blackberry, but not on a computer screen. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 11-29-09 04:19am - 5502 days | #11 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Granted for a lot of folk it may be a draw. I know my targets are very specific, but for me the Viv Thomas material seems a lot more mainstream than TD's? As I have said often, videos do very little for me. Also the lack of zips is another problem. :0) Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award Hilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 11-29-09 08:58am - 5502 days | #12 | |
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rome476 (0)
Active User Posts: 78 Registered: Aug 19, '08 |
With smaller sites it is important to me that some of the company's other sites that I may be interested in are included so as to form a mini network. rome476 | |
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| 11-29-09 09:15am - 5502 days | #13 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Often with smaller set ups though they have seperate subscriptions for each site. :0/ Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award Hilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 11-29-09 10:01am - 5502 days | #14 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
Back to Twistys for the 12th or more time. And I still dig it! BUT: Those BONUS-deals are a little too much!! in the name of 'BONUS' - or rather too less...or whatever.. Bottomline: Twistys' motherload is it! - and those socalled BONUS-sites, like Bustyones, Eurofoxes or Whengirlsplay is about he same as the mother-site. Then you got BlueFantasies and Anette Dawn. The AD-site gives you something extra with the updates of photosets and videos of our long time doll, frau Dawn - and it's maybe the best BONUS here. The Bluefantasies can go on for weeks/months without updates...and I will not even mention that: NaughtyStaff - where updates seems like nada... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" | |
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| 11-30-11 01:21pm - 4770 days | #15 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Despite the recession, the situation reference bonus site relevance doesn't seem to have changed much to me. I was hoping it may have at least focussed it, if not done away with it & just charge a reduced rate for the site(s) you actually want. Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 11-30-11 01:28pm - 4770 days | #16 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
I couldn't have said it better Drooler. I often find maybe, and I say it lightly maybe a gem in there. But often I spend a hour or two and just give up on the crap I was served. And go back to the site I paid for. I must admit my over all view of a site often is lower on ratings when I feel they are throwing crap in to entice me. Since 2007 | |
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| 11-30-11 06:27pm - 4770 days | #17 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
The bonus content offered by most site is often crappy but you will find a rare gem. I don't think that gem is worth the extra money you may have paid for your membership but I accept it since it's now a way for many studios to stay afloat. An example would be a comment made by messmer on his 21sextreme membership and the reply I posted about them and 21 sextury now using leased content as updates. DDF production has also done the same thing with many of their updates. I'd even say that they have taken this to a new level by using their other sites content to update another site. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 12-01-11 02:42pm - 4769 days | #18 | |
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Ed2009 (0)
Suspended Webmaster  Posts: 509 Registered: Sep 12, '09 Location: Wales, UK |
Licensed content or non-exclusive content is usually drastically cheaper than custom shot exclusive stuff. I originally opened AMOC using licensed content (it doesn't contain any now), and looking at what is available now it would cost me somewhere in the region on 10-15% as much as the exclusive stuff I shoot now. Bonus sites are one of those features that sound good in the tour. Webmasters like to appear to be offering more for your membership fee and don't forget that many customers are first-time purchasers and don't know any better. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity. | |
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| 12-01-11 04:10pm - 4769 days | #19 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
^I believe that a site lives or dies with it's exclusif content. If webmasters and studiso really think that your educated porn surfer will get taken in with claims of bonus material then I can assure them that it doesn't work anymore. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 12-18-11 04:03am - 4753 days | #20 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
I suppose there is some cause for hope here, if other sites were to follow the 'Only' network's lead. At least here there is some coherence. A degree of elegance, polish, softcore ( and non-nude...unfortunately!  ).Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 12-20-11 07:06pm - 4750 days | #21 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Non-nude whats the point? Thats like buying a house and only looking at from the outside. Thats like buying box of condoms for the pretty box, and tossing the condoms. Thats like signing up for an execution. Thats like eating pussy cause you like cats ? Ok I kinda lost my point on the last one. Since 2007 | |
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| 12-21-11 02:32am - 4750 days | #22 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Only the last one?  Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 01-07-12 05:58am - 4733 days | #23 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
To answer your point though.... Apparently there is a substantial market for it. So far as I am aware all the 'Only' network sites are non-nude. At least by my strict definition of nude. ( https://www.pornusers.com/forum/forum_thr...d.html?threadid=1382 ) Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 01-08-12 01:52am - 4732 days | #24 | |
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Micha (0)
Active User Posts: 321 Registered: Jul 04, '10 Location: san jose ca |
for an opposing viewpoint: I paid ten bucks to join GiveMeTeens through a link provided by PU's newsletter and while the site content kept me occupied for a few days, the bonus sites are making it necessary for an auto renewal. I keep finding new content. Great stuff! unless life also gives you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck. | |
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| 01-08-12 02:51am - 4732 days | #25 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
That has to be the exception that proves the rule.  Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 01-08-12 04:30am - 4732 days | #26 | |
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Ed2009 (0)
Suspended Webmaster Posts: 509 Registered: Sep 12, '09 Location: Wales, UK |
I think some surfers feel better about buying subscriptions to non-nude sites. I could be off the mark here, but porn is painted as dirty/wrong/immoral so much (especially in the US it would appear) that I suspect there is a large percentage of customers who will just not buy porn, no matter how much they want to, because they view it as wrong. Non-nude stuff, however, doesn't carry the same stigma for them. That's the only way I can rationalise it. Otherwise, as Cybertoad says, what's the point? Especially when something much better is just as available, often for no more cost. I would love to hear replies from a few people who subscribe to non-nude sites deliberately. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity. | |
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| 01-08-12 04:33am - 4732 days | #27 | |
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Ed2009 (0)
Suspended Webmaster Posts: 509 Registered: Sep 12, '09 Location: Wales, UK |
Getting back to the point, I've never offered bonus sites. When they cover a variety of themes I don't see the difference between that and one of the old megasites. Apart from the content being spread across a few domain names the result is largely the same. And if the content is on the same theme, why not just put it in the same site? Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity. | |
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| 01-14-12 10:32pm - 4725 days | #28 | |
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njslut (0)
Suspended Posts: 9 Registered: Jan 14, '12 Location: nj |
bonus sites to sweeten the deal they dont care if you view or like | |
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| 01-15-12 02:31am - 4725 days | #29 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
I know what the intention is, I just doubt they have much value to most folk. Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 01-15-12 09:19am - 4725 days | #30 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
My last membership was for the Mofo network and this was the first time where their bonus material was superior to the actual sites content. They offered a dvd site with thousands of titles. The quality was not the greatest on many of the titles but the source material is at least a decade old so that was not a surprise. The great thing about mane of the dvd's is that they can't be found anywhere else except on streaming only sites. I'd almost be willing to join that network again to get access to that site but I won't. I'll instead see if i can't find it somewhere else. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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