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11-30-11  10:26pm - 4770 days Original Post - #1
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Pornageddon 2012

Pornageddon is term me and my friends made up with the news and decline in available adult material.
Notable are strip clubs and online dating declining.
Second is a decline in online porn sites.

We have a new administration up for grabs in 2012,we have more fingers pointing blame, then there are fingers to even point.
( according to MoneyWatch) "Negative global economic conditions" are causing a decline in sales of porn, internet dating sites for "adults," swingers (and religious minorities), according to FriendFinder Networks' (FFN) Q2 2011 earnings. FFN owns Penthouse and a raft of adult entertainment brands such as AdultFriendFinder.com and Bondage.com.

When you've finished laughing, consider that FFN cited a downturn in global macro-economics in its first quarter earnings as well, making it a predictor of the reduction in economic growth forecasts recently confirmed by the Bureau of Economic Analysis. The major difference between this quarter and last was that FFN specifically cited wilting interest in debt-strapped Europe in Q2, when it did not in Q1.
The company's second quarter saw revenues fall slightly to $84 million, which the company blamed in part on a 6.4 percent decrease in sales to people seeking sex and other meaningful relationships through its social networking web sites.

Pornageddon seems around the corner, it may not be that porn is illegal it may become a time it is no longer a lucrative venture. A few years ago there was a decline in gun manufacturing and at the same time a shortage of ammo followed. It is possible one may affect the other here.

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11-30-11  11:45pm - 4770 days #2
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Thank you for posting your thoughts on the subject. This industry is really getting tough. At least for most I have spoken with. Sales are way down and charge backs are way up! Historically, our percentage of chargebacks has been low but the past few months they have shot through the ceiling. People are signing up, staying on the site and downloading everything, then charging back. It appears they want the porn bad enough to charge it but cant afford to pay so charge it back.

In addition,the .xxx issue has the industry in an uproar. Apparently, if a dot com chooses not to purchase a .xxx domain, that domain can be auctioned off to the highest bidder. Many small companies chose not to purchase the .xxx due to financial issues or they just didn't feel being forced to purchase .xxx to protect their brand was ethical.

I was reluctant but eventually did purchase "mydomain.xxx" to protect our copyrights and trademark. Given our tyrannical political climate I was also concerned the government might eventually force us into .xxx and out of .com

If this were to happen those that did not purchase their domain in a .xxx could find someone else purchased it. I see the possibility of major legal battles on the horizon.

All this said, I agree that Pornageddon does seems around the corner.

12-01-11  09:11am - 4770 days #3
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Whatever form it takes though.

Porn and sex will always sell in some form.

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12-01-11  10:12am - 4770 days #4
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Originally Posted by Capn:


Whatever form it takes though.

Porn and sex will always sell in some form.

Cap'n.


I am not a porn visionary, but being free speech and free expression are our rights. And as porn is more about personal interaction, a time may come where porn is more personal then it is today. I am thinking about back in the gladiator days
the men were given often the night before, the wares of a female for their enjoyment. I am wondering if some form of token system will be done, as it is right now many Indian Casinos, operate much like the old arcades at the beach did, you buy token win tickets turn them in for cash. If porn take the form of buying credit as opposed to digital media access this may change how the laws may be enforced, you may be able to end buying porn, but how could you stop someone gifting it to you ? Since 2007

12-01-11  10:26am - 4770 days #5
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Originally Posted by Capn:


Whatever form it takes though.

Porn and sex will always sell in some form.

Cap'n.


Trouble is they might not sell in our form, Cap'n. Sites will go for that which sells the most, and ladies doing a strip from fully clothed to completely naked don't rank very high .. so the few sites that do cater to this very narrow niche (if they exist at all .. I am still looking) would be the first to go.

12-01-11  10:52am - 4770 days #6
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Originally Posted by Yariana:


In addition,the .xxx issue has the industry in an uproar. Apparently, if a dot com chooses not to purchase a .xxx domain, that domain can be auctioned off to the highest bidder. Many small companies chose not to purchase the .xxx due to financial issues or they just didn't feel being forced to purchase .xxx to protect their brand was ethical.


This will probably be considered the biggest fraud in the history of the internet. It's actually amazing when you consider that it's not just porn sites that have to pay for this but every non-porn site also has to get on board or will have to fight this in court. You know that if CNN, FOX, ABC, CBS, NBC, General Electric and any and all other sites don't buy into this then someone else will buy their .xxx address. Maybe I don't understand the system and not every possible .com address is going to be made available to .xxx but I thought it was. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-01-11  01:29pm - 4770 days #7
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Trouble is they might not sell in our form, Cap'n. Sites will go for that which sells the most, and ladies doing a strip from fully clothed to completely naked don't rank very high .. so the few sites that do cater to this very narrow niche (if they exist at all .. I am still looking) would be the first to go.


Actually, I disagree.

I think it will force more specialisation, as the main stream is still overcrowded.

I think niches should benefit.

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12-01-11  04:42pm - 4769 days #8
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Pat362,

The way I understand it, if a .com, etc, does not apply for .xxx for that domain it will then be open to anyone to purchase. And if one does apply and someone else also applies it will go to auction between the applicants. This will not apply to those who have a legal trademark provided they pay the fee and purchase the .xxx for the trademarked domain. But without a trademark it goes up for bid. It does not matter if the domain name in question originates from an adult site or not. Basically, it is the wild wild west!

This goes way beyond legal ownership issues. How on earth is Google going to handle its algorithms? This will make SEO (Search Engine Optimization an absolute nightmare.

Bottom line, this is a fraudulent scam to force webmasters into spending more money in order to protect their domains.

12-01-11  06:45pm - 4769 days #9
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Originally Posted by Yariana:


This goes way beyond legal ownership issues. How on earth is Google going to handle its algorithms? This will make SEO (Search Engine Optimization an absolute nightmare.

Bottom line, this is a fraudulent scam to force webmasters into spending more money in order to protect their domains.


I'm probably way in left field on this one but I get the feeling that Google is somehow involved with these fuckers trying to make a huge cash grab. If they aren't directly involved then Google is already certain that they'll make gigantic amounts of money from all these new but useless internet addresses that will appear. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-01-11  09:03pm - 4769 days #10
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I'm probably way in left field on this one but I get the feeling that Google is somehow involved with these fuckers trying to make a huge cash grab. If they aren't directly involved then Google is already certain that they'll make gigantic amounts of money from all these new but useless internet addresses that will appear.



I think you are spot on. But I also think they may not have considered thoroughly the implications and lawsuits that await. It will be interesting to watch it unfold. On a slightly different note, have you all seen the fox news article:

Penn State Bought Adult .XXX Domain Names to Block Usage Prior to Sex Abuse Scandal

12-02-11  09:25am - 4769 days #11
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Originally Posted by Capn:


Actually, I disagree.

I think it will force more specialisation, as the main stream is still overcrowded.

I think niches should benefit.

Cap'n


I fervently want to believe you, Cap'n!

12-02-11  01:25pm - 4769 days #12
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Originally Posted by Yariana:


Penn State Bought Adult .XXX Domain Names to Block Usage Prior to Sex Abuse Scandal


I hadn't heard but I'm sure that every University with a website will have to buy into this stupid .xxx scam for fear that a douchebag would buy their .xxx site who will then try and get money from the university to buy it back.

At this point. The only thing Penn State can do is try to avoid being in the news for anything because even if they came up with a cure for cancer then you know people would bring up the abuse scandal. I'm really curious to know just how many heads are going to roll before this blows over? Long live the Brown Coats.

12-03-11  10:36pm - 4767 days #13
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I hadn't heard but I'm sure that every University with a website will have to buy into this stupid .xxx scam for fear that a douchebag would buy their .xxx site who will then try and get money from the university to buy it back.

At this point. The only thing Penn State can do is try to avoid being in the news for anything because even if they came up with a cure for cancer then you know people would bring up the abuse scandal. I'm really curious to know just how many heads are going to roll before this blows over?


Wow Godaddy is selling XXX domains for $99.00 first year
Amazing they can get away with this. Since 2007

12-06-11  07:09am - 4765 days #14
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I still own a very good name pornweb site domain name, ( not site the site was closed in early 2001) from the 90's on a the name that is on many black lists as thats what the government first did to the type of porn my site had on it. That has since changed yet my domain stays blacklisted on a few still. My point of this is it was a with a swipe of a pen my site was removed off the net. It stands to reason this is very possible to be around the corner as it is with many things.

A great example with out any debate our your vote was back in April, the Supreme Court ruled that AT&T–and any company, for that matter–can use service contracts to block class action lawsuits and force customers into binding arbitration. Lower courts had argued that such clauses were “unconscionable” under state consumer protection laws, but the Supreme Court overturned those decisions in a 5-4 ruling. The Federal Arbitration Act was designed to promote arbitration over costly and lengthy lawsuits, the court’s majority argued, so allowing class action lawsuits to proceed would be at odds with what the federal law is trying to accomplish.

You can see the writing on the wall in another swipe of the pen, yours, mine our rights were squashed and being it was the highest court in the land it was game over. Since 2007

12-06-11  08:43am - 4765 days #15
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^I'm not aware of this court case so my assessment may be off but if I read you correctly then you have a person or group of persons that tried to sue AT&T on their long term service contract policies. I don't own a cellphone but I'm quite aware that they are gigantic cash cows for the service providers.

That said I agree with company policies in regards to their long term contracts. People that sign long term contracts should be aware of what they get for the amount they'll pay each month and they should also know that this amount is due to the type of contract they signed. To arbitrary allow a person or groups of persons to sue the service provider because they no longer like those terms opens the door to every Tom, Dick and Harry lawyer or friend of a lawyer to sue because he no longer likes the term of the contract or the more likely reason is that he found a cheaper contract with another provider. For that reason I would think that US courts would be on the side of the service providers and more importantly on the side of the majority of US citizens because the courts would spend the next decade arguing case after case of class action suits from groups trying to break their contract and that would mean someone with a real need for justice would wait that much longer. Not too mention that this is money going to lawyers, prosecutors and judges for cases that probably should never have existed and since all the service providers will have to pay extra money for all those cases and these charges will be passed ontto their customers. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-21-11  09:41am - 4750 days #17
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


.....My point of this is it was a with a swipe of a pen my site was removed off the net.


Surely you would only have to base it in another jurisdiction?

I mean the World is still a relatively big place.

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12-21-11  11:02am - 4750 days #18
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Originally Posted by Capn:


Surely you would only have to base it in another jurisdiction?

I mean the World is still a relatively big place.

Cap'n.


Ya I thought about getting into it, I have an exhaustive computer, TV editing and movie backgrounds so thought about it.
But now I do independent films, and they do not involve the ladies .
I hold on to the name in hopes some day of selling it and making a few bucks. But for now I hold on to it. Since 2007

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