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| 05-05-09 11:28am - 5710 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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Khan (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
Topless in NY I just mentioned this in another thread (star trek) but as I don't want to hijack that thread, thought I'd bring it up here in case folks want to discuss it. BTW, it also ties in with a previous poll question we ran: Should women have the right to go topless in the same public places men do? I came across an interesting tid-bit the other day, thought I'd share. I read that, in New York, it's legal for women to go topless any place men are allowed to be topless. Great news but, why am I just now hearing about this? What got me started on this was stumbling across http://www.gotopless.org Now there's a movement I can heartly support. Seems they have a rally in some of the major cities in Aug. Personally, I've always wondered why women's groups have allowed such an un-equal application of the law to be applied all these years. Glad to see change is starting to come about. Now if the FCC would get on board, we could start enjoying topless TV. But again, I'm wondering how come I'm just now hearing about this? Former PornUsers Senior Administrator Now at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson | |
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| 05-05-09 12:01pm - 5710 days | #2 | |
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atrapat (0)
Active User  Posts: 182 Registered: Apr 19, '08 Location: Non-USA |
Perhaps the question should be whether there's a place in NY where men are allowed to go topless. Otherwise, it's a pointless law. Pardon my ignorance but: are women allowed to go topless at the beach in the US? I came across this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topless#Topless_beaches and it looks like there are only a couple beaches in the US where topless is allowed. Here in Spain, topless is allowed on all beaches. | |
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| 05-05-09 01:19pm - 5710 days | #3 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
x . Edited on Apr 20, 2023, 01:05pm | |
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| 05-05-09 01:22pm - 5710 days | #4 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
LOL. It's been the "breast-kept" secret in years! Maybe if the guys pitch in and help for a change, the women's groups won't have to do all of the work themselves! Housework, public toplessness ... yeah, I can see the parallels. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 05-05-09 01:52pm - 5710 days | #5 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User  Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
As a New York resident, I can happily report that on a State level, it has been legal for years. The sad part is that many counties and townships have outlawed it on their own and few people have tried to combat it. Legal fees are just so prohibitive these days. That said, women can feel free wandering through our many (and huge) state forests topless - though I can't say I would guarantee they won't get harassed. People tend to be so bloody willing to tell other people what to do. If I have to look at fat topless men at any beach, I'd like to be able to look at topless women too, whatever their body type. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 05-05-09 05:58pm - 5710 days | #6 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
The regular audiences who are dumb enough to take TV news that seriously would probably have a whole list of issues with topless anchors, so I cannot imagine it getting picked up by any major news network. The real money is in bloodlust; violent crime and war are big sellers on cable news, and they can get away with showing just about any violent act as long as they preface it with the usual "Now we want to warn viewers..." I could see MTV, SpikeTV, or any other network that caters to the twenty-something Jackass crowd, coming up with some "news" program just to show off some girl's/anchor's body and gain a big audience overnight. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 05-05-09 07:26pm - 5710 days | #7 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I'm probably in a minority on this but I don't want to see topless women walking down the street. I don't think that allowing women to go topless because men are also doing a valid reason. Call me a male chauvanistic pig with nehendertal views but I find it quite sad to think that the most important thing we got from the Womens liberation movement is that todays female teenagers can dress in a manner that would make a prostitute blush or that they can walk down the street topless because a man does it. Last I checked women's breast are still considered a sexual fascination. At least they are to me. To be fair I can say that I really don't want to see a guy walking down the street shirtless. On the beach there is very little we can do and I know I'm not wearing a 2 piece bathing suit to sdatisfy women's affront that they have to. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 05-05-09 07:46pm - 5710 days | #8 | |
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GCode (0)
Active User  Posts: 386 Registered: Feb 23, '09 Location: USA |
CASTRATE THE PIG!!! GET 'EM!!!! Just kidding. While you think you are sounding like that I don't find it that way at all. While I understand the need for men and women to be topless on a beach, anywhere else just seems plain strange to me. The only other activity or place I see a male that should be topless is in sports. However, the reason I think women should not do this is because in most high level activity, most women should have support. I'm trying to really think of other places that it's even acceptable for a male to have his shirt off besides this and I'm at a loss. So, basically, why not. If a women wants to do this during these times, it's fine by me. As for the tv thing, c'mon, anyone telling any type of news unclothed will not be taking seriously. Even if it was a proper news show, what a gimmick this is anyway. I'd probably watch once then go back to real stuff. Now a woman getting plugged while trying to tell the news...hmmm...now the gears are rollin' :) Sexted From My iPad | |
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| 05-05-09 08:17pm - 5710 days | #9 | |||
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Toadsith (0)
Active User Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
Last I checked men's chests are still considered a sexual fascination as well. For that matter so are human legs, posteriors, arms (oh the hubbub over Michelle Obama's arms), faces, finger nails and every other damned bit. Humans are generally rather obsessed with the way each other look. This is a simple matter of equality. If topless dress is considered too sexually provocative and is impacting workplace productivity then fine - businesses can ban it for both sexes. I do not feel the government should be dictating laws based on gender. Nor do I feel it important for the government to be dictating dress code at all.
Sure there is, we can ban topless beach going entirely. Do people so quickly forget the long underwear style suits popularized in Victorian era? I don't recommend returning to the modest times of yore, I personally like seeing skin. If women had the right and exercised it regularly, it would rather quickly become blasé. One doesn't exactly hear of European beaches erupting in a riot every time a beautiful woman takes off her top. Then there are the cultures that have existed for ages with the women always running around topless. Humans are very adaptable.
And so why should they have to wear a 2 piece suit to nullify your affront to their appearance? I do believe the phrase is: What's good for the goose is good for the gander. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |||
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| 05-05-09 08:22pm - 5710 days | #10 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
I certainly think that a lot of women will choose to wear sports bras in most athletic events, but if they are more comfortable topless (and there are some that really don't need to hold much in place) and men are allowed to perform the event topless (like swimming) then women should be given the same right. Perhaps they'll be able to maneuver better in the water using erect nipples as dive planes, lol "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 05-05-09 08:28pm - 5710 days | #11 | |
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GCode (0)
Active User Posts: 386 Registered: Feb 23, '09 Location: USA |
I worded that wrong. I meant to say that most women would want to have support. Plus I agree, maybe some woman swimmer with the nickname 'torpedos' will come along and destroy Phelp's records :) Sexted From My iPad | |
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| 05-05-09 10:15pm - 5710 days | #12 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
x Edited on Apr 20, 2023, 01:05pm | |
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| 05-05-09 11:18pm - 5709 days | #13 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Now it seems most of the top competitive swimming events involve body suits for both men and women since skin, despite its potential for beauty, produces too much drag compared to whatever materials these suits are made out of. It seems natural to wear less when swimming but I remember it was one of the more covered up events at last summer's Olympics. Of course there is always beach volleyball... "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 05-05-09 11:39pm - 5709 days | #14 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
Yes they keep messing with suit technology to reduce drag, but I'm figuring that'll get banned again - especially in the Olympics - since poorer competitors can't afford it and are at a disadvantage strictly because of their fiscal status. Several variants have already been banned in Cycling over the years. Then again, the UCI are a bunch of tossers that like to stand in the way of progress. Anyway, we can always hope for a female swimmer that prefers swimming topless in the same way that there was that runner that preferred running barefoot. So much of athletics is psychological that sometimes less efficient methods provide better results because the performer simply believes they do. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 05-06-09 12:56am - 5709 days | #15 | |
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exotics4me (0)
Active User  Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
Heh, I thought the thread was going to be about Khan cruising NYC in a convertible! I vaguely remember an article in Hustler years ago about how boobs were considered a secondary bodypart. The joke they made was that female boobs were no different, by law, than male beards. They followed that up with if you ever get a shave from a female, reach up and stroke her boobs like she is doing your beard. I used to run around without a shirt when I was younger, but never thought much about women doing it. Now that I think about it, I think most of Public Flash's content is from San Francisco, maybe Berkeley and Davis, CA as well. They never seem to have any problem with the police. Yeah, kind of makes me feel like I've been wasting a lot of brain cells trying to undress women with my eyes. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |
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| 05-07-09 07:22am - 5708 days | #16 | |
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Khan (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
This kind of discussion often gets sidetracked into what we'd *like* to see rather than what is really fair. IMO, in places where men can go topless, women should be allowed equal treatment. But note, just because women stop being arrested for going topless (in certain places) it doesn't mean they'll all suddenly abandon their tops. Some might go topless, others would never do so. The thing is if we're to say the sexes have equal treatment under the law, then showing female nipples should not be a crime if showing male nipples is allowed. Will we see some breasts that we'd probably prefer not to see? I suspect yes. Just as we see guys who really shouldn't be w/out their shirts. Again, the real question is what is fair under the law. Even with the most relaxed standards, I don't expect to see mainstream news anchorwomen going topless any more than I expect to see anchormen without their shirts. The same in restaurants ... I can fully support the rule: "no shirt, no shoes, no service" ... it's their business and they can decide what attire is appropriate. There are places where being fully dressed is appropriate and then there are places where we can allow more relaxed standards. What I would like to see is the FCC to relax it's stranglehold on TV entertainment. We've all seen shows where breasts (usually just the nipples) were "blurred" in the broadcast. I think the most extreme case was where a show on the history of tattoos blurred part of a guys tat because it had nipples. C'mon ... it's a tattoo on his arm ... it's seen any time and any where he wears short sleeves. To force it to be blurred on TV is ridiculous, imo. So no, I don't expect the news reporters to be topless but I don't think it should be a federal offence if some shows revealed a little boob from time to time. As Toadsith phrased it: What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator Now at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson | |
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| 05-16-09 10:41am - 5699 days | #17 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Research is needed on this, let me grab my camera and a map :-) Since 2007 | |
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