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02-24-12  01:38pm - 4647 days Original Post - #1
messmer (0)
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How to rate a movie or picture set!?

I wish that every site that allows you to rate their material would also give you a chance to comment.

I always feel guilty if a model's face is gorgeous, the photographer/videographer has done a technically fine job, yet I end up giving an update an extremely low score because the porn star's breasts have been enhanced. I find the sight of them so disgusting that I cannot be fair to the site and all those involved in the production by rating more objectively.

With a comment I could at least make it clear to all, hey it's not entirely your fault, it's just that you are not meeting my needs and taste with your latest update.

Gangbros. is a classic example of allowing scoring without a provision for comments, which brought on this post. I have been giving ones and twos to most of their scenes lately because all I see is enhanced breasts.

I know I am not being fair and it bugs me but how else can I express my personal likes and dislikes to a site?

As I said, I wish they gave me a chance to comment on what's bugging me. It might be easier on all.

02-24-12  01:45pm - 4647 days #2
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Unfortunately, as long as people keep signing up and the money is rolling in, I'm pretty sure that most sites will figure that that's "comment enough". Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity.

02-24-12  02:07pm - 4647 days #3
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


Unfortunately, as long as people keep signing up and the money is rolling in, I'm pretty sure that most sites will figure that that's "comment enough".


Well, if they look at it that way, my conscience won't bother me any longer, RB, and I'll keep giving my ones and twos to bolt-ons!

02-24-12  04:30pm - 4647 days #4
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Seems that fake is the "new real" for some. It doesn't have to be for those who don't like it. I don't like false titties either. Go ahead and vote as you wish. I mean, if they're guilt free about pushing the silicone monsters at you (cue scene from Woody Allen's Everything You Always Wanted ...), be just as guilt free about screaming "NO!" with your 1's and 2's. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Feb 24, 2012, 04:34pm

02-24-12  05:33pm - 4646 days #5
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Well, if they look at it that way, my conscience won't bother me any longer, RB, and I'll keep giving my ones and twos to bolt-ons!

I wish they'd care about your votes because we're definitely not the only ones who despise the plastic. Personally, I do my best to avoid sites that feature massive amounts of body modifications - fake tits, huge tattoos and tons of piercings.

I don't see anyone changing the trend either. I think porn is now geared towards the younger crowd. Major tats and piercings are their expressions of individuality for their generation. So, in their minds, they're not an issue. As far as fake tits go, and from the few conversations I've had in the 3D world on the subject, I think one line stands out in my mind that wraps it up very well. A 24-year-old co-worker once told me, "I don't care how they got big, I just like 'em big!" So they'll keep paying for whatever crap is put out (cough Brazzers cough), and the sites will keep churning it out.

That's why I'm ever so grateful that there are still a few sites that aren't riddled with the body mods. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. Edited on Feb 24, 2012, 07:07pm

02-24-12  07:06pm - 4646 days #6
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I can honestly say I have steered well clear of those fake breast sites. Never signed up to Brazzers, Reality Kings or Naughty America, or even DDF. I also steer well clear of those with pre checked cross sells and regional discrimination. I vote with my pocket.

02-25-12  02:44am - 4646 days #7
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I started allowing members to vote on updates some years ago, but quickly found that the results were not much help to me. When I last did a big revamp of StripGameCentral I added the facility for members' commenting directly on each update instead. That gives me MUCH better feedback - however persuading members to take a few moments to write a comment seems to be impossible. I can't even get 1% of members to comment on even one update!

I tend to assume that people are more likely to complain than praise (as is the case on the rest of the Internet) so I have to assume that my photosets and videos must be at least acceptable to my members? Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity.

02-25-12  10:07am - 4646 days #8
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


A 24-year-old co-worker once told me, "I don't care how they got big, I just like 'em big!" So they'll keep paying for whatever crap is put out (cough Brazzers cough), and the sites will keep churning it out.


That's exactly the sentiment I've run across time after time, RB. As long as they are big who cares? You can tell when the juvenile mind is at work when you go to sites that feature erotic stories. Half of them seem to be about body modification .. and how beautiful a woman now feels since she got fake breasts. I don't think anyone over thirty would write something like that.

02-25-12  10:14am - 4646 days #9
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Originally Posted by Ed2009:


I started allowing members to vote on updates some years ago, but quickly found that the results were not much help to me. When I last did a big revamp of StripGameCentral I added the facility for members' commenting directly on each update instead. That gives me MUCH better feedback - however persuading members to take a few moments to write a comment seems to be impossible. I can't even get 1% of members to comment on even one update!

I tend to assume that people are more likely to complain than praise (as is the case on the rest of the Internet) so I have to assume that my photosets and videos must be at least acceptable to my members?


Ed, could you judge by the number of videos or picture sets that were downloaded which are popular and which aren't?

I wonder if that could be the reason why the fake business is booming, because the downloads prove that most (especially the young males) don't mind?

02-25-12  10:20am - 4646 days #10
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Originally Posted by TheSquirrel:


I can honestly say I have steered well clear of those fake breast sites. Never signed up to Brazzers, Reality Kings or Naughty America, or even DDF. I also steer well clear of those with pre checked cross sells and regional discrimination. I vote with my pocket.


Bangbros.and Reality KIngs weren't too bad at one time but Bangbros. is really starting to get out of hand. I can't comment on DDF except that I dislike them for a different reason: way too much make-up on the models' faces.

As to voting with my pocket, I have a problem. As you may have guessed by now my main preference is mature women over forty and it is there that the percentage of enhanced breasts must have increased to about 80% on most sites .. I am running out of choices.

02-25-12  10:22am - 4646 days #11
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


Seems that fake is the "new real" for some. It doesn't have to be for those who don't like it. I don't like false titties either. Go ahead and vote as you wish. I mean, if they're guilt free about pushing the silicone monsters at you (cue scene from Woody Allen's Everything You Always Wanted ...), be just as guilt free about screaming "NO!" with your 1's and 2's.


Thanks, Drooler, that's exactly what I'll keep doing. "I am mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!"

02-25-12  04:09pm - 4646 days #12
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I wouldn't feel bad about it, because your votes for other girls are likely cancelled out by the people who give ones and twos to anyone below a C cup. You like what you like, and there's no need to apologize for it. Edited on Feb 25, 2012, 07:13pm

02-25-12  06:14pm - 4645 days #13
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Originally Posted by hodayathink:


I wouldn't feel bad about it, because your votes for other girls are likely cancelled out by the people who give ones and twos to anyone below a C cup. You like what you like, and there no need to apologize for it.


Thanks, hodayathink, you guys have re-assured me and I've handed out a fistful of ones and twos today without a twinge of remorse!

02-25-12  07:14pm - 4645 days #14
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Hey messmer - It might have about as much impact as the ones and twos, but maybe you could back up the votes with emails to the webmasters, expressing your disdain for their choice of models - and how it will affect the chances of your staying on, or rejoining their site in the future. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity.

02-25-12  10:53pm - 4645 days #15
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It is a good idea.
In our site.you can rate it.
the more marked,the rating is higher.

02-25-12  11:14pm - 4645 days #16
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


Hey messmer - It might have about as much impact as the ones and twos, but maybe you could back up the votes with emails to the webmasters, expressing your disdain for their choice of models - and how it will affect the chances of your staying on, or rejoining their site in the future.


That is the way I always do it.

It is way too time consuming to do that for each set, but if I particularly like or dislike a certain set, I will email the Webmanager & explain to detail what I liked or didn't like.

Usually they are quite appreciative of this.

When ATK started allowing comments, whilst some of the contributions were worthwhile, a large majority were at best not constructive and often abusive.

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02-26-12  06:35am - 4645 days #17
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Originally Posted by Capn:




When ATK started allowing comments, whilst some of the contributions were worthwhile, a large majority were at best not constructive and often abusive.

Cap'n.


Some sites have forums which I find nice when the crap is not over loading, this way you can talk with WM and sometimes even models. Since 2007

02-26-12  03:27pm - 4645 days #18
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Capn wrote :

When ATK started allowing comments, whilst some of the contributions were worthwhile, a large majority were at best not constructive and often abusive.

Over the years, I’ve read a lot of the comments on many sites, and where some are funny, many are scary. With double digit IQs and twists and bents that make me hope they don’t live in my neighborhood. Some of these guys have prison in their futures.


Capn, in an earlier post, you alluded to remastering still images in PhotoShop. Would you speak to that? Cleaning, brightening and contrasting? Or are you much more involved?


michael unless life also gives you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck.

02-27-12  02:25am - 4644 days #19
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Ed, could you judge by the number of videos or picture sets that were downloaded which are popular and which aren't?

I wonder if that could be the reason why the fake business is booming, because the downloads prove that most (especially the young males) don't mind?

Download stats are roughly equal for most updates. The problem with that is members have to look at the photos/video before they decide whether they like it. I can't tell whether they keep the update after viewing it.

To be honest, the main thing I go on is that I have a decent rebill rate. My logic is if they didn't, on average, like the updates members would not maintain a membership. It would be nice to get feedback too. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity.

02-28-12  06:02am - 4643 days #20
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Originally Posted by Capn:


That is the way I always do it.

It is way too time consuming to do that for each set, but if I particularly like or dislike a certain set, I will email the Webmanager & explain to detail what I liked or didn't like.

Usually they are quite appreciative of this.

When ATK started allowing comments, whilst some of the contributions were worthwhile, a large majority were at best not constructive and often abusive.

Cap'n.


You cannot keep away the stupid and the not constructive - still it's a way of getting things done - and how nice it is that this PU are neither...like your input, here Capn "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle"

02-28-12  06:08am - 4643 days #21
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This is - bottomline - not a matter of being fair, messmer...
On the contrary - I think it is - as you - also - say:
"........I express my personal likes and dislikes to a site."
And another BTW as you put it:

"With a comment I could at least make it clear to all, hey it's not entirely your fault, it's just that you are not meeting my needs and taste with your latest update."

......Well, in my opinion that's what it's all about: The personal view

and a: "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle"

02-28-12  09:38am - 4643 days #22
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Originally Posted by Micha:



Capn, in an earlier post, you alluded to remastering still images in PhotoShop. Would you speak to that? Cleaning, brightening and contrasting? Or are you much more involved?

michael


With my own images, I am of the opinion that if it is taken well it requires little, if any, Photoshop / GIMP post processing.

When I have no access to the original image, say for an older favourite photoset, I will rescale, sharpen & amend anything else in the image which is not to my taste.
It is not perfect, but I find it is often worth my while.

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02-28-12  01:24pm - 4643 days #23
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Capn wrote "I am of the opinion that if it is taken well it requires little, if any, Photoshop / GIMP post processing."


Agreed, if an image is well shot, it's best to leave it that way.

However there are countless images created by those who have voids in their skill levels. Great composition paired with inferior lighting or timing.
Even with a perfect shot, the image is then transformed by soulless web mechanics with the addition obtrusive watermarks and logos. I can understand pasting a brand on a free TGP, but when one pays money to look, the logo should not detract from a thing of beauty. Placement of a watermark in the middle of the action is abhorrent.
I have become proficient in the removal of these blemishes with PhotoShop. The use of the smudge tool and the healing brush can erase any evidence that the logo ever existed. A slight adjustment in brightness and contrast can transform a mediocre image to something remarkable. The usage of the burn, dodge and sponge tools paired with small adjustments with the history brush can produce amazing results. Fixing redeye, adding the tiniest bit of gape or vastly changing the look with the many filters available can be a barrel of delight. One of my favorites is 'High Pass'. Just click filter-other-high pass and run with it. Stylizing the image beyond anything the photographer ever dreamed of, using neon effects and the addition of textures and the use of the other filters can produce the most amazing results. unless life also gives you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck.

02-28-12  01:41pm - 4643 days #24
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Originally Posted by Capn:

...I will rescale, sharpen & amend anything else in the image which is not to my taste.


I've gotten pretty good at removing tattoos and piercings. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity.

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