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| 08-23-13 03:43pm - 4139 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
what else is pay-porn gonna think of to tap our plastic? I hope I'm not beating a dead horse with this thread. Ok, so ... we got forced rebilling, pop-ups flashing in our faces all too often, the sinister old ploy of Regional mark-ups...then there's those cleverly placed boxes to check or uncheck to tack on another over-sold feature to grab another buck, a too-easy added ball's tickling real-time cam of babes, beckoning to do your cyber-bidding for only a $$$$-a minute, and surely not least, the maze one often has to wiggle his way through to "cancel a subscription." Did I miss anything, youse guys? Now's the time to upgrade your rant about whatever's in your craw concerning those un-loved porn-runner practices that's been building up since your last bark. | |
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| 08-23-13 04:19pm - 4139 days | #2 | |
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biker (0)
Active User  Posts: 632 Registered: May 03, '08 Location: milwaukee, wi |
I have traveled the same course. It gets tiring looking for the instantly added sites, for more cash, that I have no interest in. And those well hidden cancellation pages. It really did make a difference having CCBill as a billing provider. I could always go directly to them and cancel. I very seldom subscribe to a site that does not use a billing provider I trust. Just like I won't go to a site that doesn't show dated updates. You missed the cancellation that immediately closes down your account even thou you have several days if not weeks left to your subscription. It has come to a very narrow limit of sites I will join. It seems more and more sites have stopped updating or picked up these practices. Thanks Graymane. I needed to rant today. Warning Will Robinson | |
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| 08-23-13 04:39pm - 4139 days | #3 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
In a word, Organize. I am sick of large sites with poor navigation and misguided information. The last 5 outta 5 reviews I did the complaint was poor navigation and way to many cookies and scripts being set at billing time. Second why doe snot have to do with the credit card it is just as bad a problem. #2 sites that do not zip their photo's It cost nothing to zip them free software is abound on the net for .zip and .7z for free and still photo sites make it a chore and in some cases a full time job to download a models set. I have other concerns but these above waste my time and do not make it easy to use the money I spent. CT Since 2007 | |
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| 08-23-13 04:51pm - 4139 days | #4 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Thanks two-wheeler, and an important miss at that. Two often I myself have been the victim of this seemingly vindictive practice of prematurely cutting you off. Uh-hum! ..... (Graymane hopelessly green with envy) put a babe on your buddy-seat and haul-ass, Sport. | |
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| 08-23-13 05:05pm - 4139 days | #5 | |
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Simarimas (0)
Active Webmaster  Posts: 75 Registered: Nov 05, '11 Location: dallas Texas |
Once again I have received some unknown insight. I truly hope my incessant questions in these threads is not a problem. If it becomes annoying, please let me know. Graymane, you mention the difficulty in finding the cancel page. I know with my billing provider, it is as easy as going to their site to cancel, however I do not think I have a link for that, but that will change directly. Would it also be helpful to handle cancellations myself? I know I have had a member contact me about wanting to cancel, and while I gave the information to my billing company, I told him I would be happy to handle the cancellation myself. Is this an acceptable practice? Or would you rather perform the cancellation yourself? Cybertoad, I am glad to hear about this about the zipped files, something I had wondered about. Whether that was a real need, or just a convenience. But from what I have read around PU, I think it is a necessity now. Do the sites you frequent, that do offer zips, offer them to members free, or are these charged for? And are they just of the set, or do they offer exclusive extra pics in the zip> Again, just curious. Finally, biker. Do you mean by dated updates, that the date the update was added is shown? Or that they are updating regularly? Thanks again for the information everyone. And once again, please say something if my questions and/or posts are annoying. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site | |
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| 08-23-13 05:17pm - 4139 days | #6 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
My experience is they are not free but included with the membership. And usually includes the standards set reflecting the video seen often on any sites. Photo only sites why they do not reflect the video cause there is none  . They at times are the biggest offenders on zip.My server experience tells me its far cheaper to allow members to download a 10-20MB file then have them using bandwidth for slide shows and page access. I actually find financially it is better for the website cost wise to have zips. Why some times people do both. I think 99% of my PU photo pals here download zips even if there is a slide show. Besides that the view at home is far better then a site can offer and quality is better usually. And again it should save bandwidth when one downloads instead of handing on the server 10-15 minutes per set. Oh yes and the file is smaller on the server too. So kinda a win win for everyone and is why I am baffled when sites just have pics and no zip file it feel likes 1998 LOL that the way it was back in the internet stone age. Since 2007 | |
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| 08-23-13 05:27pm - 4139 days | #7 | |
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Simarimas (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 75 Registered: Nov 05, '11 Location: dallas Texas |
Perfect information, thank you CT (if you don't mind me shortening that) Exactly what I wanted to know. One other thing, do these sites offer the zips at a price to non-members? Also, are the zipped pics watermarked? Would a clear watermark across the image be too annoying? Thanks again. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site | |
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| 08-23-13 06:13pm - 4139 days | #8 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Damned, Simarimas ..... are you for real? Never, in all my treks from and throughout my inception into this entertainingly unconquerable and indomitable site have I encountered such a sought-after gem as one representing your membership within the webmaster domain. The fact that you actually inquire and actively seek help from us in my mind is flat mind-blowing. And further, that you're actually going to initiate much of what we're ranting about into your system ...is nothing short of a visitation into porn-lover's Nirvana. Don't think for a minute your questions in these threads are a problem and/or it becomes annoying. Nothing could be further from the truth. Here! sit at the head of our table, make yourself right at home and announce what you have to offer ... although we know you can't please everyone or placate every niche, but ideally Porn users will certainly make you glad you came for dinner.  | |
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| 08-23-13 06:23pm - 4139 days | #9 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
No usually the person joins and the package is part of it. There have been rare sites awhile back I joined where you could pay for Video or video and picture. But that is the only correlation close to what you are asking I have seen. There are two aspects to water marks. One they protect copyrights, two they take away from the purity of the photo. The one who are subtle are best for the viewer. The thing is watermarks actually do not protect your copyright unless you have an aggressive legal team to be honest. I just bought a few cds on Ebay of photos and all were copyrighted material and this guy make thousands. In pictures I do I encode watermarks. This way I know where the mark is and can easily tell a person these are fake because.... and if you don't know where my mark is ? Well then it stolen. Again I would weigh whether I could pursue infringements legally ( it costs allot) And how is the consumer interacting with my stuff.So water making is a win lose thing and only a website owner can say what result they want. Personally I hate watermarks, I think all should be encoded so they are seen only when a problem arrives and leave a nice clean photo . Thats my take. Since 2007 | |
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| 08-23-13 06:25pm - 4139 days | #10 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Yes GM nailed it we love to have discussions with webmasters, as rare as it is at times and one that will listen to ideas and thoughts we have is amazing. It is the way we wish all webmasters were. Lets start a trend, webmasters that give a shit LOL.  Since 2007 | |
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| 08-23-13 06:31pm - 4139 days | #11 | |
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Simarimas (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 75 Registered: Nov 05, '11 Location: dallas Texas |
I must say sir, your words and the praise you heap upon me have me blushing. I actually had to show my wife what you wrote. It also saddens me that it is apparently a rare thing to have a webmaster/siteowner actually care what his customers, or potential customers, think and is willing to address their concerns. I don't think I could do it any other way. While I, of course, would like to be a huge success, and makes boat loads of money, I would much rather have a small niche site that had a few loyal customers, if it meant becoming an insensitive heal who only saw the bottom line. I have no need to be at the head of the table, just a seat where I can be involved is more than enough. Finally, just remember, you asked for it! Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site | |
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| 08-23-13 06:38pm - 4139 days | #12 | |
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Simarimas (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 75 Registered: Nov 05, '11 Location: dallas Texas |
Thanks for the info CT. At the moment I do put the name of the model on each photo on the site. Always in a place that does not cover the model in any way. I actually don't use the site name in the watermarks, because it is about the model, not me. Me, a trend setter? I don't know if I can live up to that, hahaha. Well I am not only willing to listen to any and all ideas, I crave them. So feel free to overwhelm me with them. And once more, I am truly humbled. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site | |
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| 08-23-13 07:30pm - 4139 days | #13 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
I think model names are much more acceptable by viewers then site name that appear like ads. So big Kudos for being ahead of the curve on this .  Since 2007 | |
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| 08-23-13 09:18pm - 4139 days | #14 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Sir..... do you see the icon of a flame at the thread title's beginning? assuming its still there at this reading, then let me explain: That, figuratively speaking, means this thread's on fire. And it appears because of the overriding response its getting and the interest its generating. And the flame is there for none other than your presence to this forum. And the amazing thing about this is we haven't had but three people involved. I count this icon a supreme honor because there're very rare. And I believe this one is my first. So thanks for making this possible. I am disappointed (although its early) that not more of our regulars haven't tuned in and seized on this opportunity to vent some of their concerns. My fervent hope is that this will be forthcoming. Barring that, I'd suggest you not becoming a stranger to our forum. Stay tuned in, read our reviews and feel free to contribute, draw from, or simply revel in anything pertinent to the added success of your website.  | |
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| 08-24-13 12:03am - 4139 days | #15 | |
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Marcus (0)
Active User Posts: 52 Registered: Dec 31, '11 Location: London |
I think sites will begin offering more tiered-style membership, almost 'pay as you go' whereby you can tailor what you see, but it will inevitably be at your cost. The user thinks they're getting extra, but they're just paying more for what they've always had. It's all about the upsell. I think this will be an extension of things like exclusive zipsets etc, and it wouldn't surprise me if sites introduce more options like ability to download, access to extra/bonus sets etc for extra money. I'm almost reticent about posting this because it probably gives webmasters bad ideas. I would not be happy with this, and already see it happening to a certain extent at sites like Pattycake where she's willing to do hotter stuff, but even as a member you have to pay extra for her zipsets. I also think you'll get more things like Evil Angel not allowing downloads of newer content etc, trying to keep you a member for as long as possible. Same with Pattycake's site where updates are split across several months, limited time updates etc. | |
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| 08-24-13 02:59am - 4139 days | #16 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Quite the opposite. It is very refreshing to have a Webmanager show a genuine interest in what their potential customer needs & preferences are. Even more so if they are prepared to act on it. There have been others, but they are few & far between & should be actively encouraged.  Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 08-24-13 04:19am - 4138 days | #17 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Thanks for coming on board, Marcus...... I'm especially grateful you did because there's always something thought-provoking in nearly everything you contribute. This one is no exception in that it simply compounds my argument concerning things these websites dredge up to get deeper into our pocketbooks. | |
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| 08-24-13 04:32am - 4138 days | #18 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Thanks for the support, Capn. ...... a very well written and informative posting. I hope you'll hang around and jump right back in when the spirit moves you. | |
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| 08-24-13 04:56am - 4138 days | #19 | |
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Simarimas (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 75 Registered: Nov 05, '11 Location: dallas Texas |
I actually did see the flame when I posted earlier. Really didn't think anything of it, until you mentioned it. I figured it was fairly common. Though I doubt very seriously it had anything to do with me. It is the fact that you and the others at PU are very responsive, and genuinely helpful, in your posts. I would also love to get more input on this, as everything I can learn, good and bad, will help. Thank you though, once again, for the very kind words. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site | |
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| 08-24-13 05:06am - 4138 days | #20 | |
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Simarimas (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 75 Registered: Nov 05, '11 Location: dallas Texas |
So there are sites that show only some content to paying customers? Even though the content is available to others? If find that to be very shady, at best, and borderline criminal. Do they state this practice anywhere on the site before joining? I know I have joined a few sites that had this during the trial period, and even that upset me so much I cancelled before the trial was over, but at least I could make an argument for that. But if I am paying full price for the content, and it isn't available, upset doesn't come close to how I would feel. I do have another question, I know, you are all shocked! Haha. If zips of the content was only available to full paying members, and not available during the trial period, How would you feel about that? So all the content is visible, but with no ability to download it, or have access to the zips. Is that acceptable? Thanks again, and thank you Marcus for more great information. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site | |
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| 08-24-13 05:17am - 4138 days | #21 | |
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Simarimas (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 75 Registered: Nov 05, '11 Location: dallas Texas |
In any other business, a business owner must cater to the wants and needs of his clientele. And most startups will actively seek input from potential customers before ever opening the business. That is just a good business model. Why should this industry be any different? If you must resort to scams, hidden fees, shady business practices, and things of this nature in order to make money, then you don't have much else going for you. I suppose they figure it is like illegal drugs. If I bought bad dope from a dealer, who am I going to complain to? They must think most people aren't going to tell their friends not to go to a certain site, because they don't want it known they went there in the first place. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site | |
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| 08-24-13 05:22am - 4138 days | #22 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
The reality and sadly in many websites is they fall into poor practices that is exactly what other businesses are doing world wide. Marcus is dead on the operators are supplying less for more. 21 Sextury was one such site that pissed me off. And bordered of false advertising. They say you get XYZ, but then XYZ had areas that were extra $$$ so leading the consumer to think if you buy XYZ you get that. I recall in the 1990's I bought a brandnew dodge truck, loaded. At check out I paid and then ask the dealer where was my rear bumper? He said oh that was extra. A trucks many talents is that it can tow. How do you tow without a bumper. The truck appeared to be the best deal, and was sold as loaded well except the bumper . Bof A bank tried pulling a stunt like this a few years ago too taking on hidden fees under other fees. I bought a tent awhile back. No tent stakes with it, those where extra ? WHAT THE FUCK !!!!! Since when do tents not come with tent stakes ? In my 50 years camping never saw one without it. Oh there are the trials that say full access, you join and find you are limited to content downloads and areas of the site. Again WHAT THE FUCK!!!! If I pay for a site that means the site should allow access to it. Not nickle and dime my ass for every penny. 21 Sexutry will never see another dime from me, the quality was great but the site was operated in my opinion tricky and shady. Since 2007 | |
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| 08-24-13 05:39am - 4138 days | #23 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Many site owners operate on the new wave of the future. The consumer owes me because I offer him to spend his money. California has to be the most fucked up Liberal state I have seen. Where you pay a tip at restaurant even if you get poor service. They tack the tip on the bill if you don't pay they call the cops. ( was born and raised there for 26 years so I can comment on how screwed up it is ) So now you take a state that allows such practices as the porn hub of America. And it all makes sense and false into place. See Simarimas, many California based webmasters not only think they should be able to trick, manipulate and con the customer, you as the customer should embrace their arrogance and self entitlement. Remember this is a state that tells all school children we are having a contest and everyone wins attitude. The Liberal attitude in the porn capital gets everyone asking wheres mine and you owe me crap. I Obviously moved mainly because of how screwed up businesses were there. ( I WONT EVER BE BACK ) I'll by pass that state at all costs. Not to knock Liberals or California, but progressive never equals a good deal for the consumer never has never will. California's porn businesses prove that all too clear with the me, me me attitude. Sorry if the California comments offend anyone but being born and raised there gives me that privileged.  And that state fully represents the worst of the porn industry and its practices. I wish there was a town hall meeting where porn connoisseurs like us could stand up and say hey that messed up.But sadly more and more businesses justify their acts why putting their boot on the neck of the consumers, why stealing him blind. ( but wait Cybertoad tell us how you really feel LOLOL ) Since 2007 Edited on Aug 24, 2013, 05:43am | |
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| 08-24-13 05:42am - 4138 days | #24 | |
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Simarimas (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 75 Registered: Nov 05, '11 Location: dallas Texas |
A truck with no bumper, and a tent with no stakes. That is just ridiculous, but I have to admit, it made me laugh as well. So are you saying that in the trial period, say 3 days, there should be no restrictions on downloads of content as well? Or, if it is stated that the trial period has this restriction, is that acceptable? Not saying I am against either, just trying to get an idea of what people expect. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site | |
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| 08-24-13 05:50am - 4138 days | #25 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
I guess I am saying it should be clear. If its says "full access" Then that means no limits. Now often times the webmasters fear is you will pay the typical 2.95 and stay up all night stripping the site and leave. So they sneak limits ( not all but some do ). The practice of a trial is up to the site. But I don't use trials myself usually. I think if you read around the PU forum you will find we despise most as a group , pre-checked hidden items, and misleading advertising . Like full access when its not and bottom of the page crosschecked sales. What I think we look for is honesty, offer what you say and say what you offer and the consumer will be there. Twistys is a popular site, with great practices. They exist because they offer exactly what they say at great price and their bottom line shows in them doing well in the economy. (MO) ( PS ya the missing bumper was in California too ok last time picking on Calif. ) Since 2007 | |
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| 08-24-13 05:55am - 4138 days | #26 | |
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Simarimas (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 75 Registered: Nov 05, '11 Location: dallas Texas |
Perhaps that is where I am different then. Born and raised in Texas. I won't comment on California, as there is a pretty big rivalry there when it comes to politics etc. And don't want to start an argument with anyone. But I am fiscally conservative, and probably moderate on social issues. I guess that mindset is just foreign to me. Not how I was brought up to try to screw people over. Be it for money, love, or whatever. This may be counterproductive to running an adult website, but if so, then so be it. And I actually consider this site a town hall meeting. I think if more webmanagers would become involved here, then it would only help the industry. Unfortunately, just like a true town hall meeting, the public is ranting, but very few (politicians or webmanagers) are listening. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site | |
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| 08-24-13 06:02am - 4138 days | #27 | |
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Simarimas (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 75 Registered: Nov 05, '11 Location: dallas Texas |
One thing I have gathered in reading through not just this thread, but nearly all of them, is that more than anything, customers want honesty. If there is a limit on access, just state it. If there is no nudity in a set, say so. As long as the site is honest with you, you are satisfied. It may not be what you are looking for content wise, but at least you will not go away mad. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site | |
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| 08-24-13 06:06am - 4138 days | #28 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Yes  don't let my rambles drag anyone into a political fight hehe. Most here know I am opinionated. Respectful but opinionated. After all its my money I spend through this site and others. So I think being honest how I feel is better then excusing poor behavior ( in my book ).I think because I like more conservative type porn over progressive lol kinda does duplicate my political view to. However I like to think I sit right in the middle on a lot of stuff.   Since 2007 | |
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| 08-24-13 06:08am - 4138 days | #29 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Yep, thats for sure. Nothing like paying cash and going on and snipe hunt . And at times thats how it feels. Since 2007 | |
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| 08-24-13 07:53am - 4138 days | #30 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
I hereby nominate Graymane to speak for me. Rant on my friend If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! | |
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| 08-24-13 11:10am - 4138 days | #31 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Even though we're polar-opposites on a couple strong issues? BTW ...Ain't seen'ya for awhile ...you steppin' out on our lovable website again....I mean, like, fornicating with other forums that do reviews?  .ain't the same without your sharp wit, don't'cha know? | |
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| 08-24-13 12:16pm - 4138 days | #32 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I don't know what to say to all this. I am careful about crosschecks (I agree they shouldn't be there in the first place,) I usually deal with reputable billers and have only been cheated once in six years. My last complaint was about Bang Bros. offering 1080p videos for download that couldn't be found anywhere on their site .. so false advertisement would be my beef. Unrelated to the general beefs is my frustration that not more webmasters like Simarimas are looking in, and participating in this forum. I sure would like to give some of them an earful about how their photographers have gone astray and have taken the eroticism out of their pictures by mostly presenting some cute little things who only wear three items, made mostly of denim, which is great for little girl lovers but not so great for aficionados of real women who know how to bring a gleam to their men's eyes by dressing alluringly.  and repeated rant!  | |
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| 08-24-13 01:11pm - 4138 days | #33 | |
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Simarimas (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 75 Registered: Nov 05, '11 Location: dallas Texas |
I really do find this hard to believe. Especially with webmasters who advertise on PU. Or have been reviewed. I can see that many may not know about PU, but if their site is getting traffic from here, then they DO know about it. Of course I was guilty of this myself until recently, so I guess I cannot point fingers. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site | |
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| 08-24-13 01:57pm - 4138 days | #34 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
There have been a few webmasters who have been active here in the past. Some were overtly drumming up business, usually along with crony shills, others, like yourself Simarimas, were doing more detailed market research. In recent times, most of the Webmanager input has tailed off of late, along with general traffic in the forum, until you appeared & gave the forum the shot in the arm it needed, by generating some constructive discussion! Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 08-24-13 10:56pm - 4138 days | #35 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
I agree was a nice change from a site that was once like a freeway, now is like a dusty ole road, I can almost hear the horses now. Since 2007 | |
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| 08-25-13 01:50am - 4138 days | #36 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I won't say I'm offended by your comments--I'm pretty sure I've said far worse about some place or someone  --but I think you're giving too much credit to porn companies from places outside California, or just the San Fernando valley where the majority of it is produced. And Internet scams in general are from all over; at least some of those Nigerian princes asking for my help (and credit card info for some reason) have to be from outside California. Unfortunately I would agree with you that "progressive" has been given a bad rap by places like California and NYC, though I think that city's Mayor Bloomberg is just a filthy rich asshole, rather than anything close to a progressive. The problem in places like California is that bills with good intentions get transformed into laws with really bad unintended, and frequently large scale, consequences. Take all the damned propositions (actually a bad idea to begin with), like Prop 65, which is supposed to warn people about things or areas that are known to cause cancer. Sounds like a decent idea...until you realize they've plastered the entire state with warning stickers, including things like food and various parts of your car. D'oh!  And the state, or at least Los Angeles County, will probably eventually launch an attack against porn with some arbitrary new safety regulation when what they really want to do is restrict dirty movies. This may partially work and then consequently screw over LA when they lose money as the porn companies go packing for friendlier jurisdictions. But I don't think even Texas' dumbass of a governor would be bragging about porn the way he already has about trying to attract other industries. Even Austin isn't weird enough to open up to porn! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Aug 25, 2013, 01:53am | |
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| 08-25-13 01:53am - 4138 days | #37 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Probably? You are a webmaster at a porn site, right?  "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 08-25-13 05:39am - 4137 days | #38 | ||
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Simarimas (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 75 Registered: Nov 05, '11 Location: dallas Texas |
I don't know about that one. Austin is pretty damned weird!!
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| 08-25-13 08:18am - 4137 days | #39 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
I agree with you, TS, Ya I think I dislike major places like the San Fernado, Sacramento and San-Fransisco ( I used to love that city ). Appreciate the tolerance TS. I don't want to offend anyone and I wonder at times when I post stuff if Khan is sitting there looking at my posts with one hand hovering over the VETO button. .I have to say I appreciate what we are allowed to say. I mean this is PU not a democracy yet they allow allot of freedom. So hey if I ever offend anyone let me know. I am opinionated. But want everyone to have good discussions and feel safe here too. And I have typed stuff and later went OH SHIT!!!!! why did I do that . So Glad you did not get offended I would never want to make people feel uncomfortable to the point they think ( hey that Cybertoads a real A-hole ). I am not an aggressive person, just opinionated. Since 2007 | |
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| 08-26-13 02:38pm - 4136 days | #40 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
No darlin - Just haven't been coming here everyday and even when I do, I might not have anything so say. Go figure that. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee. If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! | |
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