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12-22-13  11:21am - 4018 days Original Post - #1
jook (0)
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Non US sites

Be kind, noobie here who did a search and couldn't find anything relevant...

First, I am happy to find this site, had no idea such a site existed.

Anyway, I'm tired of the same ol' same ol' big studios showing the same boring stuff. I like to see stuff from different countries and far away from the San Fernando glitz. Good quality stuff is hard to find outside the US, at least for me.

Not the greatest example, but one example would be Trike Patrol. The girls are gorgeous, production pretty good, and leans towards amateurish, though the girls are mostly pros.

As for mainstream sites, I don't see any sites that come close to hotmovies.com as far as ppm. It's got pretty much what all the other biggies have, but it also keeps track of when you watched a movie and it's got the best search tools I've seen. If there's any sites that are similar to hotmovies with a different or bigger selection, I'd love to hear about it.

Sorry to ask ask ask without giving yet, but that will cum. Thanks.

12-22-13  03:02pm - 4018 days #2
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Hi iook ......
Welcome to Porn Users. If you're like a lot of us around here, You've Just happened upon the good-fortune, perhaps by accident, having discovered this fascinating place,
And I venture to say the longer you're here, the more you'll think you've found a piece of nirvana.
Speaking for myself, PU is the only adult environment I've found on the net wherein I felt right at home. The operative word describing our bunch is "civil." And I'll also add that you'll not find the intellectual fervor as stimulating nor overall grade of servitude as copious as right here.

I'm heading out the door at this moment to see if I can find some answers to what you've inquired about on this thread.

12-23-13  02:47pm - 4017 days #3
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I'll go out on a limb and accuse jook of spamming.

Get the fuck out. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

12-23-13  02:57pm - 4017 days #4
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


I'll go out on a limb and accuse jook of spamming.

Get the fuck out.


Thanks for the welcome. If you're typical of this board, I'm outta here. Were my comments so far fetched as to not be taken seriously? Edited on Dec 23, 2013, 03:06pm

12-23-13  04:17pm - 4017 days #5
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Well, considering you were nice enough to post a review so perhaps Drooler misspoke. You comments were just fine. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat!

12-23-13  07:30pm - 4017 days #6
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Given that in your first review you said, "I probably sound like I work for them. It's my one and only review and perhaps you think I'm a shill."

You might understand why Drooler might have thought exactly what you predicted some might think.

For the record, I doubt you're a shill but time will tell if you just came to promote those couple of sites. For now, I'm happy to give you the benefit of the doubt. I'll continue to hope you stick around and show yourself to be sincere. So far, you're doing just fine.

BTW, if I had suspected your initial post was spam, it would have been deleted. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator
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12-23-13  09:40pm - 4017 days #7
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Khan, thank you and the others for the benefit of the doubt. If you read past my tongue-in-cheek about being a shill, and if you read my review, you will see I am asking for a recommendation for another site since I am tired of hotmovies. Not everything I said was altogether positive. I also posted a second review and added a comment elsewhere.

I'm sorry, but I do not respect the remark Drooler made. He prefaced his statement by saying he's going out on a limb. I didn't say what I truly felt when I saw his comments but I'll say it now. It was a very intolerant and small-minded remark which jumped the gun. It has no basis in fact and it was a plain idiotic thing to say.

I honestly don't want "the benefit of the doubt" and to be put on trial because of an honest and sincere review, one which not only praised a site but spoke of several issues. As a result, I will not post any more reviews or comments. I will simply become a lurker.

Fyi, I had written another review, a very poor review, of another site when I decided not to post it. People like Drooler might only say that I am condemning other sites to promote another site. I refuse to have what I say scrutinized like that and be put on trial. I refuse to write reviews or comments knowing that my every word will be analyzed. I know the guy's been here for a lifetime and has a lot of posts, but if I were in your place, I would take Drooler off the welcoming committee.

As for my question here which started this, it appears that I will never receive an answer since the thread has turned into something else. And in that original question, I asked for an alternative to hotmovies, the site I am supposedly a shill for as per Drooler.

I'm sorry if these remarks sound jaded, but I'm pissed and this board has turned away what might have been a productive member. Edited on Dec 23, 2013, 09:47pm

12-24-13  06:35am - 4016 days #8
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Hotmovies - I went and looked at it and it seems to be similar to Fyretv which has a nicer looking interface. VideosZ, VideoBox and Pornstar Network are also similar except these sites you pay a monthly fee and can download the video versus Fyretv where it's strictly streaming but you don't have a fee to join. Much of what you get from any of these "dvd" sites are shared across the five platforms but each has content the other doesn't.

Name .... PU Rating .... PTB Rating
VideosZ .... 91.1 .... 92.5

VideoBox .... 89.9 .... 95.5

Pornstar Network .... 85.3 .... 94

Fyretv .... 95 .... NR

Hotmovies .... 84 .... 84

All have reviews and can be found on this site. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat!
Edited on Dec 24, 2013, 06:49am

12-24-13  06:52am - 4016 days #9
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I agree the content doesn't seem much different, though I think it has a wider range than most sites I've seen. What I think sets it apart is the ease of searching compared to other sites, the organization, the categories (I've never seen categories for foreign language films anywhere else, i.e., Spanish, Italian, Thai, etc.) and a customizable home page. Also, as mentioned, there's an indication of when you last watched a movie so, if you're forgetful like me, you won't view a movie you've just seen.

I'll check out the sites you mentioned, I never heard of them.

After so many years using hotmovies as my primary site, I'd like fresh content. I found a couple of interesting sites here already... I'm glad I found this place but am a little taken aback at the "welcome" I rec'd, i.e., "Get the fuck out."

12-24-13  09:22am - 4016 days #10
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Let me, for the last time, address the welcome issue.

Of the last half a dozen or so people who joined &/or posted, they ended up being trolls, so I think a lot of old time members are a little on edge.

The best you can hope for is that you and Drooler can work this out.

Other than that I'd just let it go because beating a dead horse isn't going be anything but that.

What would you like to see happen? If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat!

12-24-13  12:31pm - 4016 days #11
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The issue is dead to me. The only think I'd like is an apology from Drooler, but I won't hold my breath and I don't care any more. More bothersome is that other members let him get away with saying the things he did. And frankly, I was born and raised with more manners; hearing the f___ word used like he did was offensive.

Anyway, thanks for addressing my original question. Now, all I need is more decent foreign sites. I like a Czech site I found using this board... I think Czech AV. I'd love to find Latina sites that are shot in the native countries, not Latinas in the US.

12-24-13  12:49pm - 4016 days #12
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^ 17 Czech sites and not one of them devoted to my niche of deep throat If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat!

12-24-13  07:38pm - 4016 days #13
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Originally Posted by jook:


Thanks for the welcome. If you're typical of this board, I'm outta here. Were my comments so far fetched as to not be taken seriously?


C'mon, jook ....... give us some slack here.

We've all taken hits like this .... I'd venture even your offender.

The first thing that impressed me reading your thread, as well as probably over 90% of the others here who picked up on this, was what an intelligent and interesting guy this was and potentially what a great contribution he's gonna make to this site.

But while I heartily commend you for this obvious ability, I am somewhat taken aback that you would let a single affront cause you to walk away from such a great place to be a part of.
You're doing yourself and us a disfavor by carrying through with your announcement to quit.

Khan is by-the-book- and as strong an enforcer as you'll find anywhere on the net, when it comes to civility amongst his members ......or outsiders who dare to challenge the laws set down by this site.
And I can tell you as a solemn declaration or affirmation, if he thought your "offender" had crossed the line, with unforgiving implied malice or pursued his contention in any way as a deliberate means of pushing the envelope ....... well, I can tell you, it wouldn't be a pretty picture -- old-timer or not.

12-25-13  02:17am - 4015 days #14
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Me, an offender? Maybe in my viagra/drug-addled years that ended long ago, like last spring.

It's the holidays, a new year is approaching and a fresh start. Let's try it again.

Now, for xmess, all I want is the name of a good native Latina site.

Thanks to all for your kindness. Happy holidays.

12-25-13  03:57am - 4015 days #15
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Originally Posted by jook:


Me, an offender? Maybe in my viagra/drug-addled years that ended long ago, like last spring.

Thanks to all for your kindness. Happy holidays.


In case you're taking the word "offender" as meaning it implied you, jook ......let me assure you that you got it wrong.
Offender, used in the context I presumed you're misunderstanding, refers to the individual who offended you.
I didn't want to bring up the long-time member's user-name because I figured he's gotten enough negative exposure on this matter already.

For Latinos, you might find HardcoreSkinVideo.com to your liking. For less than $15 a month you get a massive selection of clips from different videos.. 73 pages of assorted video clips I found just browsing through the endless number of selections.
I did a review of the site about two years ago, which you might find very helpful.. You'll find it just under my profile.
Good luck...... likewise, happy holiday to you aldo.

12-25-13  04:22am - 4015 days #16
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Originally Posted by graymane:



For Latinos, you might find HardcoreSkinVideo.com to your liking. For less than $15 a month you get a massive selection of clips from different videos.. 73 pages of assorted video clips I found just browsing through the endless number of selections.
I did a review of the site about two years ago, which you might find very helpful.. You'll find it just under my profile.
Good luck...... likewise, happy holiday to you aldo.


It looks like the site is dead; my browser can't find it.

Or maybe my brain is dead. I looked at your profile and couldn't find it under your reviews. Would you mind providing a link?

12-25-13  10:23am - 4015 days #17
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Very sorry about that, jook. I'll check that out.
I've had a long-running continuous subscription to the site for over ten years, and it is only recently that odd changes are occurring that's got me bothered.
I think all this has to do with them attempting to diversify or expand and have bitten off more than they can chew. The site started out as Guba, but a couple years ago broke off and doing mostly only non-porn now.
Hang loose for a spell while I try and get you a link.
try these ...Skin Video/ or skin video/ SkinVideo/ skinvideo

BTW .....glad to have you back on board. PU is planning big things shortly, and I'm convinced you'll be glad you stuck around.. Edited on Dec 25, 2013, 10:28am

12-25-13  10:30am - 4015 days #18
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Bingo! .....there it is. Good luck.

12-25-13  11:38am - 4015 days #19
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Greymane, you are truly a gentleman. Thank you. But what the heck are you slapping your back over? skinvideo doesn't seem to have anything to do with latinas. But I'm happy you're happy. -)

You're the second person to make reference that changes are coming to the site. Is it a secret or can you fill me in?

12-25-13  01:33pm - 4015 days #20
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Let me assure you, jook, the site is loaded with Latino.
I can only guess you can't get excess to it unless you join.
I clicked on the link I provided here and it dropped me off on PU's Best of Porn page.
Personally Download 'til the cows come home, but I'm sure Skin Video blocks any and all outgoing links to files.
My old review of SV plus some others are listed on PU's Best of Porn. You might wanna look in on that.

My math is going South on me, but more or less I figure
You'll pay more than $15 in a couple hours buying minutes on the site you just reviewed....compared to SV .... plus you get 30 days packed with more variety than you can get on your hard drive.

About changes .......
You know as much as I do about the forthcoming changes. Frankly, I don't think anybody but the guys upstairs really knows what's coming down.
The word is out, however, it'll be a bonanza for current members.
Let me know how you make out with Skin Video. You might be interested to know that the site has a search window for members that'll bring up anything you type in that they have. an they have about everything.

BTW....... you're on your own if you dump $15 into this site and you're disappointed. You got it from me only the way I SEE IT. Edited on Dec 25, 2013, 01:49pm

12-25-13  02:44pm - 4015 days #21
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Maybe it has lots of Latino stuff, but my guess is the videos are shot in the US or Europe, not the native country which is what I'm looking for. You can't really see much without joining and I might have to pass unless you wanna join first and fill me in. -)

I've got my hands full now. I'm beginning to see the light with hotmovies as far as expense. I was accustomed to ppm (although I joined download sites before) and was very happy with hotmovies. I didn't experiment much because I've gotten ripped off and it got to a point where I was afraid to give my credit card info. I'm fortunate to have found this site so that shouldn't be an issue any longer. I see the light and the benefit to downloading. However, I still maintain that hotmovies could be the best site around for ppm. I don't think I ever spent more than $40 in any month and that would be an exception. After looking around these past few days, I don't see any sites as well organized as hotmovies. I checked all the sites that jberry listed and they didn't seem to come close to hotmovies as far as features. I can't comment about the content though. But my time will be much more limited now with hotmovies.

My preference leans towards reality and that's one reason I gave a thumbs up to Trike Patrol. One really bizarre site that I found as a result of a review here is Czech AV. I think everyone should join for a month just to see how bizarre it is.

12-25-13  04:14pm - 4015 days #22
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I don't know if something like Pacino's Adventures would interest you. I've not actually had a membership to that site but have been at many of the other sites in the Pacino network and a lot of their models are genuine Spanish speaking Latinas from what I remember.

12-25-13  04:22pm - 4015 days #23
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Originally Posted by jook:


preference leans towards reality and that's one reason I gave a thumbs up to Trike Patrol. One really bizarre site that I found as a result of a review here is Czech AV. I think everyone should join for a month just to see how bizarre it is.


Is this implying: when it says "reality" that it is just that? Like implausible foreplay; pretending the impossible?
No phony moans and groans, or shattering china with stentorian bursts of screams ........you know, that sort of thing?

12-25-13  04:39pm - 4015 days #24
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Tangub, thanks for the recommendation. It looks like a good possibility that the scenes are filmed outside the US. There's no way of knowing without joining or asking though. So I asked. If they don't answer, well, that's reason enough not to join.

Graymane, my gosh, you make life difficult! I change my mind every other second anyway. To give a fuller answer... I like foreign films preferably in their native language (I don't care if I can understand every word) and not over the top acting like you find in San Fernando and oftentimes in Europe. Decent quality is a must, but it doesn't have to be HD quality. Reality or amateur seems to fit these requirements, that's why I mentioned reality, but I am not a stickler.

For example, I like a Russian series on Evil Playgrounds as well as lots of stuff on Third World Media, both major studios. I don't believe any, or at least many, of the videos are shot int the US or Europe. These are not reality films but the acting is not over the top.

I can live without stentorian bursts of screams. -) [I had to look that one up!]

[Do you play WWF too, Words with Friends?]

12-25-13  06:56pm - 4015 days #25
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Originally Posted by jook:


Be kind, noobie here who did a search and couldn't find anything relevant...



If you had selected a site other than Hot Movies then I would have told you to go with them but you chose what I consider to be the best one out of a now dwindling group of PPV sites. The only other site to come close to HM is AEBN. They have many of the same movies as HM and they even have some exclusive ones as well but HM has more movies and a bigger variety to chose from.

The only thing both sites share is their rates which are way too expensive for my taste.

I'll have to think about sites that might appeal to you because I have a couple in mind but can' remember their names just now. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-25-13  07:20pm - 4015 days #26
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Jook, if you follow the "BROWSE SITES" link in the right hand menu, you can search our listings by niche.

For example, go to that page and set the "Min. Reviews" (top field) to zero.

Then if you set the "By Niche" field to "Latina", you'll see we have 190 sites listed in that niche.

You can also set the "By Site Type". Pay-Per-View is an option there but there's only 4 latina PPV sites listed.

BTW, what is "ppm" ?
I know PPV is pay-per-view but I'm not sure about ppm. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator
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12-25-13  07:51pm - 4015 days #27
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Originally Posted by jook:


You're the second person to make reference that changes are coming to the site. Is it a secret or can you fill me in?


You can get a general idea by scanning some of the older threads in the forum.

Rick (the founder and owner of TBP/PU) first mentioned the changes in the thread:
I'm back... and motivated
... in post #36 of that same thread, he gave a little more info.

The bulk of the discussion for the changes was probably in the thread:
the future of pornusers...a couple mockups to get your head spinning

I think the latest news can be found in the thread:
Any new information on the replacement TBP/PU site rollout?

Hope that helps. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator
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12-26-13  04:20am - 4014 days #28
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Originally Posted by Khan:


Jook, if you follow the "BROWSE SITES" link in the right hand menu, you can search our listings by niche.

For example, go to that page and set the "Min. Reviews" (top field) to zero.

Then if you set the "By Niche" field to "Latina", you'll see we have 190 sites listed in that niche.

You can also set the "By Site Type". Pay-Per-View is an option there but there's only 4 latina PPV sites listed.

BTW, what is "ppm" ?
I know PPV is pay-per-view but I'm not sure about ppm.


Yes, I am aware of that. However, there's no way to differentiate videos filmed in the US vs. their native country. I find by just selecting "Latina," you get the whole kit and kaboodle, and that kaboodle consists mainly of videos not filmed in their native country. You cannot choose 2 criteria for niche. Besides, I don't there is such a criterium here as foreign language or Spanish, so it wouldn't help.

RE: PPM. It stands of "pay per minute." So, if you only watch a movie for 1 minute, all you pay for is 1 minute. On PPM sites such as hotmovies, you prepay for minutes.

12-26-13  07:20am - 4014 days #29
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^The only way you would have an option for foreign language is if the site was in English but the videos were in a foreign language. Otherwise TBP/PU do not promote any site that is not offered in English.

I think I have found a site for you (see below link)

http://www.thagson.com/affiliates/?lang=en

I know that all their videos are not exclusively shot in Spain but you still get quite a few and for only 15$. In fact you can currently get an even better deal if you go to their join page and then try to leave because they will offer you the site for only 11$. At least they did to me.

There is Torbe (another Spanish site) but I think the network is now dead so all the content will be a couple of years old. It's 30$ and since the network is dead when it comes to update then how secure will you be that download speeds are still good.

I know there is a video site on TBP/PU dedicated to Latin American made porn but I'm still looking for it. It sucks because I know I saw it in the last three days but can't remember the name. Long live the Brown Coats.

12-26-13  07:55am - 4014 days #30
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Thanks, it looks good (even though I prefer the Americas). Another one on my list to join. I'm beginning to regret finding this place. I do hope they do away with the only English rule though. Some of the best porn is in other languages.

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