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| 12-01-08 04:26pm - 5864 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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mr smut (0)
Active User  Posts: 107 Registered: Dec 27, '07 Location: Germany |
GONZO According to urbandictionary.com Gonzo means When it comes to pornography the term 'Gonzo' refers to a style of film making pioneered in the 1990s by directors such as Seymore Butts and Ben Dover. Gonzo porn took the storyline out of adult movies and headed straight for the sex. No longer would the pornoholic have to fast forward through 10 minutes of inept dialog to get 5 minutes of sex. They got sex throughout the whole video. Gonzo porn was not always shot in the first person or in point-of-view fashion as some have suggested here and the quality of the movie depended largely on who was producing it. Half the adult videos you can rent fall into the Gonzo genre. This is based on an entry by pornoholic (http://www.urbandictionary.com/author.php?author=pornoholic) | |
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| 12-01-08 04:55pm - 5864 days | #2 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
x Edited on Apr 19, 2023, 02:15pm | |
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| 12-01-08 05:03pm - 5864 days | #3 | |
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mr smut (0)
Active User Posts: 107 Registered: Dec 27, '07 Location: Germany |
No need to speak about Hunter S. Thompson as he for sure was the man of Gonzo journalism :-). No other ever made me laugh that much as he did while he still made me think about what he wrote ... thumbs up for Mr. Thompson! | |
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| 12-01-08 06:44pm - 5864 days | #4 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
Poor Gonzo. He had that curved nose and now he's also associated with porn. Can't a muppet get a break. You know the sad part is that gonzo porn has been watered down because most modern porn is gonzo. There are so few movies made today where there is a plot, actual acting, foreplay and good sex. I used to enjoy the gonzo flicks of the early 90's because eventhough they had little in plot line they still had a story. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 12-02-08 09:13am - 5864 days | #5 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User  Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
This post is about as good a definition as you can get for Gonzo - I actually intended to reply to mr smut's review that asked about Gonzo - but I think all the work has now been done :-) "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 12-02-08 09:16am - 5864 days | #6 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
That is a pretty good definition of Gonzo Pornography, but I would even go farther as to say it usually isn't shot in P.O.V. - as that is in-and-of-itself its own niche. Sadly, most major studios only produce Gonzo porn. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 12-02-08 09:24am - 5864 days | #7 | |
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jd1961 (0)
Active User  Posts: 296 Registered: Jun 07, '07 |
Gonzo porn was great when it first arrived on the scene because most of it had a sense of humor to it, like "Shut Up And Blow Me", but nowadays it's pretty grim and most of it shows rutting scenes with a lot of guys furtively pulling their puds, and all the stupid cliches like hair pulling and spitting, and ugh... | |
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| 12-02-08 04:08pm - 5863 days | #8 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
The spitting really gets me. Also irritating, but on a lesser scale, is the model slapping her own butt in every second scene you watch! I'm not particularly keen on Gonzo but can see why there is so much of it. It made it easy for producers to churn out DVDs by the thousands because all you need is a couple of actors and a camera. I sure miss the old fashioned story lines leading up to sex, as inept and corny as they were at times. | |
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| 12-02-08 05:32pm - 5863 days | #9 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User  Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Oh please please god don't let them bring back plot lines, or talking in porn! Those old fashioned plots had 50 minutes of talking and 10 minutes of action. I think it was John Stagliano (Buttman) who really got the genre started. He developed his style as video gradually took over from film. I think very few porn makers produce the same quality as Stagliano. He is one of the few who seems to genuinely enjoy what he is doing. He sadly caught HIV but still makes porn with a passion that most of the others do not have. | |
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| 12-02-08 06:57pm - 5863 days | #10 | |
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jd1961 (0)
Active User Posts: 296 Registered: Jun 07, '07 |
I hate that. And the obligatory circus positions. In every video. For an industry that refuses to portray the missionary position (the real missionary position, not the one where the guy is perpendicular to the girl), they sure are stodgy and formulated. Like their version of doggy style, the girl must have one of her arms all the way touching her buttt, and she must have her head turned. And don't get me started on the mandatory crotch shaving. I think it's a law in pornoville. | |
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| 12-03-08 01:04am - 5863 days | #11 | |
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shooterbo (0)
Active User  Posts: 185 Registered: Apr 25, '07 |
The master of Gonzo is Patrick Collins, aka Elegant Angel studios. Some of his stuff filmed in Budapest used to keep me up all night (not awake, but "UP"). Search his name on Video Box....where I have found most of his vids. | |
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| 12-03-08 09:22am - 5863 days | #12 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Talking about old times, some of the most erotic movies I've been privileged to watch over a life time were main stream, mostly story and had very little "action." Never ending hardcore action has never been erotic in my eyes. I need the trimmings as well as the bird! :-) | |
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| 12-03-08 09:47am - 5863 days | #13 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
GONZO PORN, You know, I like this topic because in reality what is real porn supposed to be like ? Have you ever seen real paid sex? Prositution is ugly messy and , fuck watching some over weight guy get his knob polished by a 18 year old herion addict. Cant be porn. So obviously its not paying for sex or the fantasy that makes it porn. So is it the fact we can place ourselves menatlly into the picture ? Might be, because we get annoyed by the small things in porn videos. Imagine your having kinky gozno sex and you got some guy talking in your ear LOL. Hmm maybe thats why we get annoyed by guys talking cause the screw it up. Can you imagine a prostitute waxing your knob why her pimp sits out side teh car coaching her . LOL So Back to Gonzo, I have a hard time putting myself into a mental position, trying to shove my cock out the back side of some girls head while pulling her hair. Ya, my significant other would so not go for that nor would most. How about right before slipping the rod I hock a luggie on her pussy. Wooo Hooo thats a huge turn on right ladies ? Missionary positions in real life lol do not look as glamorous, but nor is the girl pulling her legs behind her head? In reality wouldnt that open her up bigger lessing her sensitivity ? I mean geees looks like there ready to pop out JR sometimes. I think watching weird sex is interesting, but I get interested enough. Sometimes I laugh. Some sites make me laugh as they obviously have crossed the line into their own fantasy not the paying member. But to their own justice some sites just do it right. I like some specific models like Austin Kincaid, Catalina Cruz for example because they seem to have fun and not to much twisted stuff. But i was watching Austin just the other day taking two on , and she obviously wasnt into it much as she just went through the moves moaning while tryingto appear into it. Like most do. My take Gonzo is entertaining, and fun to watch. But I am guessing that down and dirty is what most are looking for. A small amount of foreplay and thats usually good. Personally I like to see a short strip, rather then just going at it. My Take Cybertoad Since 2007 | |
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| 12-03-08 11:05am - 5862 days | #14 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
LOL. I just had to go to look up your age, it seems that most under twenty-five almost insist that the model be shaved and hair is now considered distasteful or, worse yet, a fetish, where only a generation ago shaving was considered to be kinky! Unless you are talking about the act of shaving itself. I haven't come across too many of those in the videos I watch. | |
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| 12-03-08 11:20am - 5862 days | #15 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Agree, Yes this is true. I like a trim, not a cut lol. I mean I do not want to have to break out a weedeater to get to the pond. But I also do not want desert sand in the Sahara either LOL I am over teh hill and almost under it LOL so I bush in the hand is worth a bird somewhere, as my mind wondered off into the forest . What were we talking about? Since 2007 | |
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| 12-03-08 02:12pm - 5862 days | #16 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Darned if I know, I'm over fifty! Oh, yeah, now I remember: hair! I remember reading all those smutty books in my misguided youth where the women always had a "luxuriant" bush and it was meant as a compliment. However, trimmed is fine with me, too, even though I wouldn't turn away "luxuriant!" :-) | |
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| 12-03-08 06:07pm - 5862 days | #17 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
There was a comment by a comedian, who loved hardcore porn, about why he loved it. He said the difference between hardcore and softcore was that with softcore the girl is without someone and seemingly coming on to you, because there is no one else there. The fanatsy is you could have her, whereas in hardcore this is not the case because someone else is already having her. I have always thought the kick from watching hardcore was that the beautiful people are paid to have sex for our entertainment, not imagining it was me in the porn clip. I have never thought it was about projecting my fantasy or imagining it was me having sex. I just consider annoying people in porn to be a distraction from what I want to watch. Just as I would consider someone scratching their fingernails down a blackboard to be a distraction while watching porn. The reason I get annoyed at small irritating things in hardcore is for the same reason I get irritated at small distracting things when I'm having sex. The phone ringing, a car or house alarm constantly going off, people arguing outside - it's all a distraction and a bloody nuisance. That's why in porn, I hate the dork guy in front of the camera who can't shut the f**k up, or the cameraman who is constantly talking and being an idiot. They're a distraction and a total bloody nuisance. When that happens my fantasy is taking out a baseball bat, and beating the living shit out of them. But as Cybertoad says, this is just my view on this. My guess is there are about a thousand others, all with different ideas of why we love porn. Edited on Dec 09, 2008, 05:55pm | |
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| 12-03-08 08:03pm - 5862 days | #18 | |
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jd1961 (0)
Active User Posts: 296 Registered: Jun 07, '07 |
No, I mean it being mandatory. On some girls, it looks nice. On others, it's pimply and stubbly and unnatractive. On guys it's creepy. In the old days we would have said it was "gay", but I guess you can't say that anymore. Anyway, the point I'm making is the porn industry is stodgy and stuck in their stereotypes worse than any old missionary. BTW, there is no crotch shaving mania in Japan, and very little ink disfigurment, I guess that's one of the reasons I like it better. And I have to say that I am horrified at the thought that young people are learning about sex through American porn. Not good for young women. Do they think having their genitals spat upon is nice? Edited on Dec 03, 2008, 08:07pm | |
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| 12-03-08 08:14pm - 5862 days | #19 | |
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jd1961 (0)
Active User Posts: 296 Registered: Jun 07, '07 |
No offense, but to me, that's a creepy thought, like peeking in someone's window. As far as I'm concerned, the male performers faces should never be shown, certainly not in closeup, and NEVER looking directly into the camera or talking to the audience. I think it was Andrew Blake who said the males were "merely props", meaning stand ins for the viewer, or hired dicks. I can't stand seeing the same ones in porn forever, I don't think they should be paid, and remember "Jon Dough"? he killed himself because his porno days were over. No one ever talks about it, but I think porn is a very bad place for a man to be, because he gets stuck there, unlike the girls who are mostly in and out quickly. They should not be used after a year, a dime a dozen I say! | |
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| 12-03-08 08:24pm - 5862 days | #20 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
Jon Dough is dead?! Say it ain't so! He was one of the few that could actually act! Damnit... that is unfortunate. I mean, not that he had done much of interest to recently, but I still recall his glory days back in the early 90's. Oh well. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 12-04-08 09:21am - 5862 days | #21 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Yep, I would be the first to admit I am a bit creepy and a pervert! I consider porn performers to be like any other paid performers, that includes musicians. My position on any artists or performers is this - I've paid you to perform, now get on with it. | |
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| 12-09-08 07:55am - 5857 days | #22 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I basically agree with your views when it comes to hardcore. I don't think there is a single video where I put myself in the scene, P.O.V. tries to make it easy but even then it takes more imagination then I possess. I think your remarks that people are being paid to perform for us are right on and I don't see anything creepy about it, even if someone else thought so. And I agree when it comes to irritants: my biggest one is the clicking of cameras during a scene which brings home the artificiality and calculated nature of the whole set-up. That's why I prefer pictures, soft core but showing pink, solo or g/g, at least they allow me to use my imagination. | |
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| 12-09-08 05:33pm - 5856 days | #23 | |
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williamj (0)
Active User Posts: 102 Registered: Sep 29, '07 Location: usa |
Love to see a real gonzo American Lezzie site. Will | |
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| 12-11-08 01:42am - 5855 days | #24 | |
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shooterbo (0)
Active User Posts: 185 Registered: Apr 25, '07 |
You will find none better than We Live Together or Milf Next Door, both found at Reality Kings IMHO. | |
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