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02-20-09  04:24pm - 5784 days Original Post - #1
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Hardcore Suggestion Box

We at PU -- and I'm among the guilty -- have done a lot of complaining about how hardcore videos (and pics, if you like) are fraught with similitude. That is, they're all pretty much the same anymore!

Well, isn't it time for us to get our creative juices flowing and make suggestions about what we'd like to see instead of the usual McPorno?

Dear Reader, the "suggestion box" is now open and awaiting your contributions.

Fire away ... I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

02-20-09  05:01pm - 5784 days #2
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02-20-09  05:23pm - 5784 days #3
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Love that new avatar. Brilliant!

There's a real shortage of genuine orgy material. For those of you who don't know, an orgy is not two couples having sex. This is probably going to be more expensive to shoot because you have more people to pay. The nice thing about videos of orgies is because you have to see a lot of people having sex at once, you don't get all those really tedious boring close ups. I agree about one of the biggest turn offs being just close ups of groins banging away. I want to see the whole model and I love hardcore. Orgies are a bit different. You see very little genuine orgy material around. Videos of orgies shot in an "as it happens" sort of way make great viewing. Edited on Feb 20, 2009, 05:27pm

02-21-09  03:22am - 5783 days #4
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One idea I have, which of course plays directly to my hardcore porn and actual sex preference, is as follows:

The guy starts fucking the girl "belly down flat" from behind, and when he tries to get her to change positions, she keeps insisting on more "belly down flat" sex, and the guy gives into her wishes. So it's mostly sex in that position, but every 4-5 minutes or so, the guy says, "Let's try it standing up" or "Don't you like it cowgirl style?" and so on, and the girl says, "Of course not! Keep fucking me like this!"

And finally the guy shoots on her ass, not on her face.

Another one would have, as musical background, a song parody of Cat Steven's "Peace Train," renamed "Peace Sign": "The Peace Sign holy roller/I'm gonna stay with the Peace Sign ..." I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

02-21-09  10:17am - 5783 days #5
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I think less facials would be my first recommendation. The facials have always, first, ruined the pretty girl's face for me and second, whether true or not, it makes me feel like I'm watching some guy let off his problems with women when he does the facial. I think if more of the female stars were into the facial that I would feel differently about that.

I always liked the "risky" sets, even if they really aren't in public. I saw a pretty rare Zafira video of her giving a guy a handjob in public that wasn't really hardcore, but the spontaneity of it made it more believable.

Which gives me my biggest complaint and the first thing to go, asking the model questions before a hardcore shoot. One of Eve Angel's best sets is on Mike's Apartment. She is really into the solo in this one, but the first 10 minutes is the guy asking her if she speaks English, if she likes Family Guy and I've seen hardcore shoots that do the same thing. Once the guy asks "Do you" or "What is your name" or any question, it takes away from the believability of the scene. I've always liked the voyeur storyline too. Man and woman having sex, her friend is lonely and asks to watch and plays with herself while watching. Little Mutt has a hardcore video of Sarah Blake with a guy, and this other model is there, but says she isn't willing to do hardcore. As the scene goes in, she is fighting herself not to join them.

Best though, a scene of Sandy from Club Sandy in Brazil with a Brazilian woman and Kid Jamaica. Anyone who has followed Sandy's site knows she has a crush on Kid Jamaica, but she has that whole won't do hardcore, won't be with men in porn clause. After watching Kid Jamaica pound the Brazilian model, she is touching his chest and before you know it, Jamaica is fingering her while pounding the model. That ends with a new scene where Mya Diamond is with Kid Jamaica and Sandy trying to just tease him, ends up giving him a pretty impressive blowjob.

That is what most hardcore porn lacks. It is all too planned out, and too set up to make you believe it is close to real. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

02-21-09  10:40am - 5783 days #6
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When it comes to hardcore I would suggest we do away with the tattoo covered muscle men and the many scenes where men have to artificially stimulate themselves in order to keep it up and switch to pure lesbian hardcore with only women directing the shoot. :-) One added benefit, no more of that stupid macho talk at the beginning of every scene.

02-21-09  10:25pm - 5783 days #7
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This is exactly why I'm always going against the majority in my seeming one-man crusade against networks like Brazzers and Bangbros - Tons of mass produced, run of the mill porn. My suggestion would be for people to stop getting drawn in by a cheap monthly rate, just to watch what amounts to the same scene over and over again, just with a different girl and a different guy each time. Gonzo just sucks! If people don't buy it, eventually, they'll offer something that does sell.

Yeah - I do know I'm just being idealistic, so I'll just get off the soapbox now : - ) Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity.

02-22-09  03:55am - 5782 days #8
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You know, you guys are like a broken record. What you and I have been complaining about has been expressed ad naseum in the forum, on the polls, in reviews, in replies to reviews, and in comments.

The purpose of THIS thread, which I have made clear, is for us to come up with ideas of what we DO want to see in porn. Plenty ... PLENTY has been said already about what we DON'T want.

So here's another idea, which I've thought up after having discussions with jd1961 about our shared distaste for "circus" positions in porn (the "piledriver," etc.):

Call it Porn Circus Auditions. Couples come into a room with a bed or a couch with hopes of making it into the "Porn Circus." The first few start doing the "circus positions" and when they do, the maestro says, "STOP! We've seen too much of that! NEXT!" Finally, a couple comes in and does just "normal" sex. The maestro says, "All right! That's something you wouldn't expect at a Porn Circus! You're hired!" And the couple finishes off without a cum shot.

Here's another, with the working title Stamina Man: A girl (could be Jenna Haze!) is looking for the guy who can last the longest. So at each encounter, she starts a stopwatch, which the viewer can see running in a corner of the screen. And girl tries her best to get the guy off as soon as possible, just to make it more of a challenge for him. She asks him, "What really gets you off?" And whatever it is, she gets into it with ardor. (See, Jenna Haze would probably be a good choice.)

The winner's reward? The next day, she gives him the best blowjob he's ever had, and she says he can cum on her face. But just before he shoots, she says, "Just kidding!" and ducks and his load flies past her and lands in his crumpled trousers that are laying on the floor.

Oh, and here's yet another one. It's easy; all I have to do is think about the things we've been complaining about and then turn it around. Working title: Shut the Fuck Up.

Girls go in for pornstar interviews/auditions. When the interviewer has reached the 5th stupid question, the girl says, "Gee, is that ever lame! You and your stupid, asinine questions! Just shut the fuck up and let's start the audition!" So the "real sex" gets going, and then the camera man starts in with his stupid blabbing. So the girl just gets up, walks over to him, and kicks him in the balls! "Shut the fuck up!" you hear as the camera jerks and points upwards. The girl's face comes into view, seen standing over, a bit menacing. Then she grabs the camera, and the rest is POV.

Here's another. Working title: Get a Freakin' Lexicon, Dammit! Guy fucking girl, who is really into it, but she keeps saying, "Fuck that pussy!" over and over. So the guy stops and writes additional phrases on a flip chart for the girl to say. She's required to expand her vocabulary if the guy is going to continue giving her the rod that she craves. Finally, they both come together, shuddering in what looks like pure ectasy. Then the girl looks forlornly at the guy, and says, "You still haven't satisfied my libido."

Here's a variation on that: Rosetta Bone. The guy requires the girl (or the girl the guy) to say naughty things in 10 different languages if they're going to continue having sex. Just add subtitles. (Alternative title: Polysplat.)

Maybe some of these ideas sound kind of stupid, but hell, at least we can try! I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Feb 22, 2009, 05:12am

02-22-09  05:00am - 5782 days #9
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Don't want to max on lines, so here's a new post with another variation on the Rosetta Bone theme:

The girl walks into the room completely naked, with vocabulary in a foreign language on little strips of paper taped all over her body. The guy has to learn the words as he goes before he can enjoy everything the girl has to offer: "lips" (which then he can kiss after discarding the vocabulary piece of paper), "ears" (then he can lick and blow into them), and so on as things proceed further eventually to "pussy" and "ass." But he isn't allowed to come until the girl grabs a big sign that says, "I'm coming!" in the foreign language. If the guy can say it right, he can get off.

Just think of it: Czech (any number of Czech girls), Hungarian (I vote for Suzie Black!), Romanian (Jasmine Rouge!), Spanish (Rebecca Linares!), etc. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Feb 22, 2009, 05:06am

02-22-09  06:07am - 5782 days #10
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I was laughing about Drooler's ad nausem comment, but Drooler, no guys talking and asking stupid questions IS what we want to see! I think you gave us too much leeway there! I didn't honestly realize that you were looking for names and ideas, though the part about "creative juices" should have been a hint.

Here is mine, set in the old western town of Doujuana a run on Tijuana, title is The No Take Dick Six and those will be Eve Angel, Sophie Moone, Sandra Shine, Sandy, Aneta Keys and Aria Giovanni. The six ladies have agreed to do hardcore for this one video. Imagine the DVD sales of that! There will be a hundred men brought in to watch the six women have an all-girl orgy. Every time one of the men says ONE word, he is eliminated and he has to go in the back and do a "extra bonus" scene with Rocco. That won't be shown though. Any moan from a man, any noise at all, will result in elimination.

The competition toughens once the ladies are finished with their orgy, the few men that are left are tied up to chairs, the six women take turns giving them a lapdance, and if he moans or says anything he is eliminated. To add to the challenge, one of the ladies could even ask questions, "If you say yes, I will touch you" and you know the guy of course says yes and is eliminated for talking. In the end there will be only one man left and he has sex with all 6, but if he talks during any of the scenes, he is eliminated too.

I'm pretty sure I just told a creative way to get the man to shutup ha ha! My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

02-22-09  07:58am - 5782 days #11
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All here got splendid/fine ideas. What strikes me is, that nobody here seems to want the simple "wam-bam-thank-you-mam"- videos og photosets anymore.
And exactly like RagingBuddhist mentions about sites like Brazzers and Bangbros: Man, it's all getting too stereotype - hundreds of models doing almost the same thing in every goddamm video/photoset.
SOME US-sites has done it a bit different, like Mano for once - or that french site Explicite Art (if ONLY that site could do a better work with the quality/size of videos....
As a long time user I think the Euro-sites like 1by - and Pix and Video are NOT any better - it's the same.
Some minor sites like Dreamstash, Sexy Employee or even Fritz Ryan and the few hc-scenes at NU Dolls has a quite different attitude than most of the major sites.
What I look for is the more "erotic" than the fucking here and now - better foreplay, longer foreplay with strip and tease - and above all the model showing off in full figure for a longer part of the video...before the act... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" Edited on Feb 22, 2009, 08:02am

02-22-09  01:04pm - 5782 days #12
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Originally Posted by Denner:


What I look for is the more "erotic" than the fucking here and now - better foreplay, longer foreplay with strip and tease - and above all the model showing off in full figure for a longer part of the video...before the act...


Okay, Drooler, Denner's is an eminently sensible suggestion. It isn't new but most of us have bemoaned the fact that eroticism has practically disappeared in favor of "the money shot" and I would gladly subscribe to a site that is willing to return to Denner's and my ideal. :-) I would also like to expand your "Shut the fuck up" idea and apply it to all those over the top moans coming from the female models. Was there ever a time where it turned you on to hear all those nasal: Oh, yeah! Oh, God's" coming from those fakers .. me neither. So, to both parties involved: a little moan will do. Don't mind us if we don't come up with any new sensational ideas. Sometimes the old ways are best!

02-22-09  06:07pm - 5782 days #13
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This one really got me laughing. The No Take Dick Six! Great title, exotics! And a great concept. I'll probably come back and read it again; it's that good.

Aw, I just got the pun about Do-U-Juana! Did you make that up or is that a nickname in So Cal for Tijuana? (I've heard that it has it's ... decadence.)

And to Denner and Messmer, yes, eroticism instead of the same old. We don't have to reinvent the wheel, of course, but what ideas to you have for getting that old eroticism back into porn where it belongs?

My own ideas are just a reflection of me. I like things a little off-the-wall in humor, with unexpected twists, especially at the end, if I can think of them. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Feb 22, 2009, 06:33pm

02-22-09  06:21pm - 5782 days #14
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Okay, Drooler, Denner's is an eminently sensible suggestion. It isn't new but most of us have bemoaned the fact that eroticism has practically disappeared in favor of "the money shot" and I would gladly subscribe to a site that is willing to return to Denner's and my ideal. :-) I would also like to expand your "Shut the fuck up" idea and apply it to all those over the top moans coming from the female models. Was there ever a time where it turned you on to hear all those nasal: Oh, yeah! Oh, God's" coming from those fakers .. me neither. So, to both parties involved: a little moan will do. Don't mind us if we don't come up with any new sensational ideas. Sometimes the old ways are best!


Did you ever see Joe Rogan's standup act about "Tiger Sex?" The first time I saw that on TV I thought I was really going to die with laughter. So maybe a vid with that idea: Guy tapes (burns, whatever) animals having sex on TV, studies up on it, then tries to apply it in the bedroom.

Scenes of the guy fucking women, then split screen so you can compare to the animals. And quick "inserts" so it's animals-people back and forth with increasing speed until ... "Do I look fat in this position?"

And I don't know if Lucy Lee (the Czech model) is still doing hardcore, but it would be fun to have a scene with her. She's got this low voice (I LOVE women with low voices) and she kind of "caws" a bit. Split-screen that a bit with, I don't know, whatever makes a similar sound.

For your nasal-tone afflicted honeys, have them wear that new mouthpiece thing you see on TV to reduce snoring (forgot what the silly thing is called). "Honey, you need to put more glottis into your coitus." I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Feb 22, 2009, 06:25pm

02-22-09  07:03pm - 5782 days #15
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02-23-09  11:48am - 5781 days #16
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


Another take is the situation where the woman is in control. Not BDSM or CFNM but where the women takes the iniator position. Again, sometimes done but rarely done well.


That happens all the time in MILF territory. The poor, over-the-hill forty, fifty year old is so desperate for a bit of sex that she practically rapes the repairman, meter reader, landlord, pizza delivery guy. In this case I wish the younger men would be more in control and the "older" women a bit more reluctant at first. :-)

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