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04-29-12  10:32pm - 4581 days Original Post - #1
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Recommendations wanted for a specific interest

I'm looking for porn with a female submissive who actually acts submissive. It doesn't have to be an oscar worthy performance but I'm tired of scenes where submissive just means "the one tied up or getting spanked" and I'm really tired of women who think "Oh Yeah!" repeated a few dozen times does anything but annoy the audience.

04-30-12  06:38am - 4581 days #2
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04-30-12  09:28am - 4581 days #3
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What about the various sites from the Kink network like

TheTrainingofO.com
TheUpperFloor.com
WhippedAss.com
SexAndSubmission.com

Most of the acting is good enough to convey submission of the female sub. All hail to the hypnotoad!

04-30-12  12:36pm - 4581 days #4
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Any Japanese porn. The nation has made a past-time out of doing ridiculous things to their submissive women. A large percentage of Japanese women constantly speak at the upper registers of their vocal range because high voices are considered sexy and submissive. You'll find a large range of female submissiveness featured in Japanese porn, from basic virginal awkwardness with whimpering and lots of missionary position, to intricate rope-work bondage, to straight up rape-play fantasy scenarios that can be disturbingly convincing (right up until you realize they are using a toy gun). "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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04-30-12  08:21pm - 4580 days #5
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Kink is actually my current favorite site network and they do pull of what I'm looking for reasonably well. Especially Training of O and Sex and Submission. They at least act. And for the first few minutes its pretty close to perfect but once the action starts they too often fall into the problem I mentioned where the submissive is just the one tied up.

Toadsith do you have any sites in particular to recommend? "Japanese" is a pretty big category.

04-30-12  10:57pm - 4580 days #6
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Originally Posted by Samm:


Kink is actually my current favorite site network and they do pull of what I'm looking for reasonably well.

Toadsith do you have any sites in particular to recommend? "Japanese" is a pretty big category.


Kink is indeed great for reasonably extreme BDSM, no arguments here.

For Japanese, I'm currently a member of AV Idolz, which is quite good if you are seeking uncensored Japanese porn and aren't concerned about HD content. They even stream their content so you can check it out before downloading. Sadly, the audio synch on the streaming is usually off by about 3 seconds, so that gets annoying. They don't have a lot in the BDSM arena, but as I said, almost all Japanese porn features submissive women, it is a cultural thing.

Asian Movie Pass features TONS of Japanese porn, but most of it is censored. That said, they will have plenty of the BDSM and faux-rape stuff (Rough Sex category).

Another group of sites that just came to mind are the products of D&E Media LLC. They are famous for Ghetto Gaggers, Facial Abuse, and similar sites. These sites have been repeatedly picked out as being abusive towards women because of the severity of the domination. Basically the male stars treat the female stars as little more than a body with warm holes, acting in total disregard for the enjoyment of the woman. It is entertaining if you tend toward enjoying on-screen domination. But it can be really offensive for many viewers. They apparently have addressed the white male actors working over black female actors by making a new site called Black On Black Crime featuring black male actors performing the domination.

Anywho, I hope that info is helpful. Cheers! "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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05-01-12  03:37am - 4580 days #7
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Just curious...concerning japanese porn I was always disappointed by lack of acting and presentation. You are absolutely right about the cultural tendency for asian societies to oppress women, even today, and this proceeds into their porn/BDSM business. But I've always had the awkward feeling the women there are just passive, sad and pitiable which would not be my kind of definition of submission in a sexual context. Overall, the joke (it's not really a joke but a fact) is that the sub is equally powerful as the dom in a SM relationship and not just a pathetic plaything. So, after a while I quit watching their stuff, since it made me kind of feeling guilty to support it. Was I watching the wrong kind of videos or am I (at least partially) right? All hail to the hypnotoad!

05-01-12  10:13pm - 4579 days #8
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Originally Posted by Ergo Proxy:


Just curious...concerning japanese porn... I've always had the awkward feeling the women there are just passive, sad and pitiable which would not be my kind of definition of submission in a sexual context. ...Was I watching the wrong kind of videos or am I (at least partially) right?


I'd say that is a pretty accurate description of Japanese porn. Those of us used to Western porn, specifically the enthusiasm expected of the female stars (so expected that Escorts now commonly offer PSE, or the Porn Star Experience - as opposed to the Girl Friend Experience, GFE), can often be rather disturbed and disarmed at how female Japanese porn stars tend to appear uncomfortable to even non-consensual about the sex. This, I promise you, it is what is popular, expected and practiced within the Japanese porn community.

I say this because I've seen enough blooper incidents in Japanese porn where the girl starts laughing and has to take a break before getting back into character. Japanese customers want the girls to appear virginal and inexperienced while they are partaking in these various obscene and imaginative acts. It is hard to get used to at first, but once you really absorb the fact that it is all a show like WWE (formally WWF - damn you, Panda, for taking back the name that was rightfully yours!) you can sit back and become engrossed in the fantasy of it all.

Every once in a while you'll run across a Japanese porn star (or AV Idol as they are frequently called) that is so inherently sexual that I think directors just give up trying to direct her and just roll the cameras while the male stars holds on for dear life. That is a nice change of pace and reminds you that women all over the world enjoy sex, no matter what standards their culture imposes upon. I suppose that is why some butchers take to genital mutilation: no worries about your little girl becoming a whore because she likes it if you've cut off her clit. But I digress.

The main point is that Japan, despite being dominated again and again by Western forces, has retained a unique culture around its pornography. The culture is no longer as open or as sex-positive as it was in earlier times in Japanese history, but it is an interesting blend that makes their porn worth cultivating an appreciation for. Hopefully their culture will become more sex-positive in the manner that Europe has been working on for years, and the USA is trying to catch up to. Censorship is already becoming laxer and may soon go away like the rotary dial. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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05-01-12  11:36pm - 4579 days #9
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What an extensive and interesting reply, thanks. Though I think I will wait until they become more "sex-positive" as you said. But maybe I am too old then to appreciate it All hail to the hypnotoad!

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