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09-23-12  07:41pm - 4473 days Original Post - #1
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Is it just my age ...

... or are you reluctant, just like me, to move away from your old sites even if they have deteriorated in your eyes? It seems I am stuck with a handful that I rotate and revisit about twice - three times a year.

Bad experience with trying the "new" may have something to do with it but, in my case, there appears to be an emotional attachment to the sites I started with. And a wistful hope that in the meantime they have gone back to their old way of doing things, with today's quality, of course.

I was reminded of this when I got the assessment of one of my latest reviews back from the staff:

"Thanks for the re-re-re-review of this site!"

I had forgotten how many I had written over the years for this site and the remark not only made my day but made me realize what a creature of habit I was when it comes to Porn.

Here are the regulars, with a few exceptions (not mentioned) thrown in now and then:

Vintage Flash
All Over 30
ATK Natural and Hairy
We Are Hairy
Anilos
21Sextreme
VideoBox
Videosz
White Ghetto

and, of course, despite my recent bad reviews:

good, old Aunt Judys!

09-24-12  08:18am - 4472 days #2
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I hear ya my friend, I too find myself going back time and time again, I guess I do not think to re re review perhaps I should, just other then content sites like
Twistys
DD Girls
as an example never seem to change much othe rthen new content. Since 2007

09-24-12  08:36am - 4472 days #3
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messmer....a little younger than you and still a senior citizen...I got the same problems...but the hunt goes on.
And the sites you name...yes, been there or are there.

...and yes, going back again and again.

But now and then some material comes up..and you say: Wow, this is great, this is new.
Ok, know your're mostly into mature, right? Love it, too. But also going back to old, old teen material like they used to have at Teendreams ect.

And now my best hunting field is the "older" ways of doing that teen material ....somewhat like Wow Girls - see that in my latest comment.... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle"

09-24-12  09:58am - 4472 days #4
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


I hear ya my friend, I too find myself going back time and time again, I guess I do not think to re re review perhaps I should, just other then content sites like
Twistys
DD Girls
as an example never seem to change much othe rthen new content.


Sometimes a re-review is not a bad thing but I was amused yet slightly embarrassed that I had had so many reviews of AJ before the present one, without remembering most of my previous efforts, except the one before this one. In this case I don't think it was a bad thing because the site had just come under new management.

As to your Twistys, I wish there were some reviews that would answer my question: do the models still look as if they have been dusted with some sort of orange powder? I was a member some time ago and was terribly disappointed that it was almost impossible to find a set that was clear with natural colors.

09-24-12  10:03am - 4472 days #5
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Originally Posted by Denner:


messmer....a little younger than you and still a senior citizen...I got the same problems...but the hunt goes on.
And the sites you name...yes, been there or are there.

...and yes, going back again and again.

But now and then some material comes up..and you say: Wow, this is great, this is new.
Ok, know your're mostly into mature, right? Love it, too. But also going back to old, old teen material like they used to have at Teendreams ect.

And now my best hunting field is the "older" ways of doing that teen material ....somewhat like Wow Girls - see that in my latest comment....


Thanks, Denner. I am glad someone else is doing a lot of revisiting. Could you elaborate a bit about your "older way of doing things?" I would be very interested in your answer because I find the "new" way of doing things more than slightly boring and would even subscribe to a teen site if it gave me something other than an extra quick strip out of three items of clothing.

09-24-12  10:05am - 4472 days #6
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The old saying about nostalgia not being what it used to be applies. Old cliche but very true. The problem is selective memory and thinking, and getting stuck in a rut. Sometimes it's easier to get stuck in a rut and consume what you're safe with than seek out new material.

I am not talking just porn, it applies to everything. "The charts are crap, there's nothing worth listening to nowadays, it's almost a sign that your music is crap, if you get in the charts." Not said now, not said in the 90's, or 80's but said by an old school friend in 1974. John Peel was saying in 1980 about how everyone thinks 70's music was better, but if you really looked at the music charts in the mid 1970's they were filled with Wombles.

I may be one of the few who thinks the porn produced now is sensational. Not only sensational, but sensational value. Just like John Peel searching for great new music I continue to search for great new porn, and even on the worst sites, usually find it.

I'm still going to harp on about the great value, while people still moan about quality and quantity, because there is an abundance of quality and quantity. There's not so much of the stripping that messmer likes, but that is a very specialised niche. If you want a 45 and a third year old medium length strawberry blonde with a mole on the right side of her cheek, stripping down from a blue dress to red panties...okay I've made my point. General hardcore is available in huge quantities at amazing quality. There are a number of niches but some are rare. The more specialised your niche, the harder it is to find. That's true about most things we consume.

There was one site messmer loved but refused to pay $50 for it. Sorry but that's crazy given the value of what money will buy nowadays. If we want quality we have to pay for it, not only that, we should be happy and pleased to pay for it.

My memory is long so I still remember buying a truly crap 60 minute hard core porn video (illegal in the 1980's), for 60 GBP. An astronomical sum for then. Even if you're not allowing for inflation, 60 GBP today equals $100. Virtually no one will pay that for a month's subscription to any site or network in the modern day. You can spend more than a whole month's membership on one round in a pub or enough for a whole year's membership if you go out to dinner just once.

Enjoy the freedom of internet porn. If anyone really wants to know how good it is, stay away from porn for 8 weeks, or even 4 weeks. Go on I dare you. The you will start to see how far porn has come, and how good it is. Edited on Sep 24, 2012, 10:12am

09-24-12  10:22am - 4472 days #7
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Thanks, Denner. I am glad someone else is doing a lot of revisiting. Could you elaborate a bit about your "older way of doing things?" I would be very interested in your answer because I find the "new" way of doing things more than slightly boring and would even subscribe to a teen site if it gave me something other than an extra quick strip out of three items of clothing.


Get back to you, ol' friend.....right now the fatigue, a little booze and family are taking over...take care. "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle"

09-24-12  10:42am - 4472 days #8
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^ I hear you, squirrel and even agree with most of what you say when it comes to nostalgia. I thought for the longest time that good music stopped when Rap and Hip Hop "music" entered the scene. My father-in-law thought that the music world had gone nuts when he heard the first Elvis record. So each generation tends to feel that tastes have somehow deteriorated since their youth.

As to my niche, I am actually not stuck exclusively on the niche "matures" in sexy lingerie. I prefer it but it is not a prerequisite, it's just fact that it is near to impossible to find a young woman who would take the trouble of getting into a garter belt and stockings (as one example) because it is foreign to her and her contemporaries.

Where I disagree is that a lengthy absence from Porn would cure me of my ennui.

Here's where I make my case: I go to one of my favorites "All Over 30" or "Aunt Judys" or "ATK Natural and Hairy" and I go back, back, back and all of a sudden I am swamped with hot, erotic picture sets where the models are still in very appealing clothes (including lingerie). The idea of going "commando" has not yet caught on. If this content were in today's quality I would never leave their archives.

Forward to the present: Now we have women and girls in jeans, or short jean skirts, some sort of top, a pair of very abbreviated cotton panties, which are hardly ever clearly shown in a frontal shot, and a pair of shoes with the average set containing roughly 8 - 10 pictures where they are fully clothed, then, pull up blouse, take down skirt and thong .. and voila a long series of almost identical nude shots. No increased pixels no super HD will make a set like that interesting to me. I am constantly amazed that it should be interesting to others!

I can't argue with you when it comes to videos. I know that videos are your preference and I agree that the quality has become much better over the years, even though I think there is an undue emphasis on enhanced breasts when it comes to my favorite age group and that the "actresses" strip too quickly before action commences!

09-24-12  10:44am - 4472 days #9
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Originally Posted by Denner:


Get back to you, ol' friend.....right now the fatigue, a little booze and family are taking over...take care.


Have a nice evening, my friend. If you get the chance tomorrow take a look at my reply to the squirrel, you might get a better idea of what I was inquiring about.

09-24-12  11:13am - 4472 days #10
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Originally Posted by messmer:



Where I disagree is that a lengthy absence from Porn would cure me of my ennui.

Here's where I make my case: I go to one of my favorites "All Over 30" or "Aunt Judys" or "ATK Natural and Hairy" and I go back, back, back and all of a sudden I am swamped with hot, erotic picture sets where the models are still in very appealing clothes (including lingerie). The idea of going "commando" has not yet caught on. If this content were in today's quality I would never leave their archives.

Forward to the present: Now we have women and girls in jeans, or short jean skirts, some sort of top, a pair of very abbreviated cotton panties, which are hardly ever clearly shown in a frontal shot, and a pair of shoes with the average set containing roughly 8 - 10 pictures where they are fully clothed, then, pull up blouse, take down skirt and thong .. and voila a long series of almost identical nude shots. No increased pixels no super HD will make a set like that interesting to me. I am constantly amazed that it should be interesting to others!

I can't argue with you when it comes to videos. I know that videos are your preference and I agree that the quality has become much better over the years, even though I think there is an undue emphasis on enhanced breasts when it comes to my favorite age group and that the "actresses" strip too quickly before action commences!


Yes here is where I agree with you. Unfortunately each generation and advance brings its disadvantages. Porn will rarely be perfect because of very personal tastes and niches. At least at PU we can air our grievances, although we may be outside the porn norm, and therefore not worth listening to by the porn powers that be.

Sadly for you, your own personal tastes may currently be out of fashion. I well remember my quest to find a pair of trousers that were straight legged when flares were "in."

09-24-12  11:42am - 4472 days #11
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Sometimes a re-review is not a bad thing but I was amused yet slightly embarrassed that I had had so many reviews of AJ before the present one, without remembering most of my previous efforts, except the one before this one. In this case I don't think it was a bad thing because the site had just come under new management.

As to your Twistys, I wish there were some reviews that would answer my question: do the models still look as if they have been dusted with some sort of orange powder? I was a member some time ago and was terribly disappointed that it was almost impossible to find a set that was clear with natural colors.



Now thats funny you mention it, as I was house cleaning I noticed that some looked like they had been spray tanned. Didn't look too natural and there ummm
inner areas looked bronze. These were mostly from 2011 and 2010 a couple from 2008 not all but some did look odd. Since 2007

09-24-12  12:13pm - 4472 days #12
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Originally Posted by messmer:


I was reminded of this when I got the assessment of one of my latest reviews back from the staff:

"Thanks for the re-re-re-review of this site!"

I had forgotten how many I had written over the years for this site and the remark not only made my day but made me realize what a creature of habit I was when it comes to Porn.


For the record ...

We really don't mind re-reviews -- or even multiple re-reviews. In fact, we actually changed the system in Aug of 2008 to encourage users to update their reviews.

It should be noted, points are awarded slightly differently for re-reviews.

For some of our reasoning and details of what we look for in awarding add'l points, see the Announcement:
Updated Reviews Are Now Encouraged

Anyway, just wanted it clear that we don't mind users updating a review when they've signed up again (or remained a member to a site). Former PornUsers Senior Administrator
Now at: MyPorn.com

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09-24-12  12:33pm - 4472 days #13
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Originally Posted by Khan:


For the record ...

We really don't mind re-reviews -- or even multiple re-reviews. In fact, we actually changed the system in Aug of 2008 to encourage users to update their reviews.

It should be noted, points are awarded slightly differently for re-reviews.

For some of our reasoning and details of what we look for in awarding add'l points, see the Announcement:
Updated Reviews Are Now Encouraged

Anyway, just wanted it clear that we don't mind users updating a review when they've signed up again (or remained a member to a site).


Thanks, Khan, for making that clear! I didn't take the re-re-re-review remark to heart because I actually thought it was funny. I thought it was one of your staff writing "tongue in cheek" because that's what you've been getting a lot of from me: re-re-res in reviews as well as in comments!

09-24-12  01:28pm - 4472 days #14
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There is nothing wrong with a comfort zone.

It is worth stepping outside it every so often just to tweak the pleasure that the comfort zone actually gives.

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09-24-12  01:42pm - 4472 days #15
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Originally Posted by Capn:


There is nothing wrong with a comfort zone.

It is worth stepping outside it every so often just to tweak the pleasure that the comfort zone actually gives.

Cap'n.


I agree with you wholeheartedly, Cap'n. That's why I changed my signature yesterday to remind myself not to get stuck in a rut!

09-24-12  06:12pm - 4472 days #16
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I see nothing wrong with having a small list of site that you keep going back to because they may not be as good as they once were but they are stull superior to most of the crap the other sites put out. I know that I'd love to find a new site but although they keep adding new ones every week. Most of them are so bad that I don't know whey they even bothered and the others are all using leased crap available elsewhere. Long live the Brown Coats.

09-24-12  06:56pm - 4472 days #17
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I see nothing wrong with having a small list of site that you keep going back to because they may not be as good as they once were but they are stull superior to most of the crap the other sites put out. I know that I'd love to find a new site but although they keep adding new ones every week. Most of them are so bad that I don't know whey they even bothered and the others are all using leased crap available elsewhere.


You got that one right, brother. I guess all the sites that could have been of good quality are laying back and waiting to see how the economy will be going rather than invest in these rather uncertain times, while the shysters with their false promises, hope to make some hay out of inferior and recycled stuff.

BTW, talking about deceiving people VideoBox had an HD update today that was identical to an old DVD ... exactly the same content ... that was relabeled by the producers and then re-offered as new. Since VB can't possibly check everything I blame the slimy producers of the video for that dirty trick. Compilations are bad enough to re-offer an identical DVD under another name is almost criminal!

09-25-12  05:30pm - 4471 days #18
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^There are so many duplicate scenes on VB that I don't think there numbers would look all that good if they were to remove all but one version. Long live the Brown Coats.

09-26-12  05:37am - 4470 days #19
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Have a nice evening, my friend. If you get the chance tomorrow take a look at my reply to the squirrel, you might get a better idea of what I was inquiring about.


...."The older ways" - may not but the entire deal/truth, but still:
When fed up with less and less fine material (to my liking) - I spend glorious hours going through my tons of both older and newer material. I'll find scenes and especially model-names, mostly teens from start 2000-.....and all models from the 1980/1990th - and also later.
And the hunt first starts at Google and model-names. It'll get me a lot of free previews and a lot of crap - but it's just my way to find locations of/on paysites....and of course a small amount of ok free material, mostly in poor/average quality, but still...
The next step is usually going back to sites, I've been before and where I got fine material earlier....but at those more major sites, there'll usually be older material, I skipped or missed the first times around. I've done that quite a few times with:
Teendreams
21 Sextury
DDF
MetArt
MetModels
ect...
BTW: Did you ever take a look at these mature/vintage sites (can't remember if we've been here before....guess we have, but):
https://www.thebestporn.com/review/ladysonia/
https://www.thebestporn.com/review/vintageflash/

Anyway, old friend...that's it from this fellow PU.

Good luck: the hunt. "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle"

09-26-12  01:56pm - 4470 days #20
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Originally Posted by Denner:


...."The older ways" - may not but the entire deal/truth, but still:
When fed up with less and less fine material (to my liking) - I spend glorious hours going through my tons of both older and newer material. I'll find scenes and especially model-names, mostly teens from start 2000-.....and all models from the 1980/1990th - and also later.
And the hunt first starts at Google and model-names. It'll get me a lot of free previews and a lot of crap - but it's just my way to find locations of/on paysites....and of course a small amount of ok free material, mostly in poor/average quality, but still...
The next step is usually going back to sites, I've been before and where I got fine material earlier....but at those more major sites, there'll usually be older material, I skipped or missed the first times around. I've done that quite a few times with:
Teendreams
21 Sextury
DDF
MetArt
MetModels
ect...
BTW: Did you ever take a look at these mature/vintage sites (can't remember if we've been here before....guess we have, but):
https://www.thebestporn.com/review/ladysonia/
https://www.thebestporn.com/review/vintageflash/

Anyway, old friend...that's it from this fellow PU.

Good luck: the hunt.


Thanks, Denner! You gave me an idea and for that I am grateful: maybe if I Google "mature women in lingerie" I might just get more than a catalog. And, yes, I know about Lady Sonia but she does not particularly turn me on for some reason, even though she wears nice things, and I definitely know about Vintage Flash which is on top of the heap when it comes to my taste and I subscribe to it a couple of times a year.

Hours later:

P.S. This is funny but I actually did Google "mature women in lingerie" a few minutes ago and guess what site I ended up on: Lady Sonia. Actually she is quite nice looking, I must have had someone else in mind but the reviews and comments here at PU aren't that great so I would hesitate to subscribe. Edited on Sep 26, 2012, 04:01pm

09-27-12  05:23am - 4469 days #21
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BTW, messmer - Lady Sonia: Not very fond of her as a model - but what really hit the fan - for me - is some of her other mature models in the site.....here is both great models and damn fine mature hc-material. "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle"

09-27-12  10:10am - 4469 days #22
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Originally Posted by Denner:


BTW, messmer - Lady Sonia: Not very fond of her as a model - but what really hit the fan - for me - is some of her other mature models in the site.....here is both great models and damn fine mature hc-material.


Thanks, Denner, I will keep that in mind.

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