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| 10-07-13 06:00pm - 4094 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
Does anyone here have any information on or experience with the new Max Hardcore site? It’s called Max Hardcore TV and it seems to be run by Max, but that would be easy enough to fake. But I have heard rumours that he’s making porn again. The site looks pretty shady and it also appears that it might be streaming only, and even then that might be low resolution only. I know Max is probably the most polarizing person in porn, but if anyone has some information, advice or experience with this site I’d appreciate hearing it. The site isn’t listed at TBP and I haven’t emailed suggesting that it be listed until I can find out if the site is legit. And, in case you’re wondering, I’m not asking this question for my own benefit. It’s for a friend. My friend Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo…  | |
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| 10-07-13 07:59pm - 4094 days | #2 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Would help you if I could, 'ol buddy, but the stuff I've heard about Max ... well, don't think I wanna get near the guy. But hey, glad you introduced us to your friend! I call my friend "Oscar" | |
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| 10-08-13 06:19pm - 4093 days | #3 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
Here's the info I can offer and some of it must be taken with a grain of salt because it's conjecture on my part. Max mentioned that he was thinking of shooting new content but that was a while ago and I never heard anything after that. I certainly didn't see any evidence that what's on his site is anything but is pre-prison stuff so it's at least 4 to 5 years old. My gut feeling is that even if he wanted to shoot more porn. He has burned every bridge he had prior to going to prison. Which agent wants to send one of his girls to a Max shoot? Even if one agent wanted to then there is the fear that he could do something just as stupid as the last time but now he wouldn't be alone in getting accused. I think Max made some really, really bad decision in his life and he is now a pariah to the porn industry. I don't know if the content on that site is downloadable but membership is handled by Verotel and that's a reliable CC processor based in Europe. It makes sense for him to use them because his servers must all be Overseas. I counted a total of 612 individual scenes. That is certainly not his entire library but i's a decent number. Quality is likely to be average at best because it's old and getting older as we speak. If he was offering his old, old stuff then I would be interested because there was a time when I thought the guy was amazing. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 10-08-13 07:17pm - 4093 days | #4 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
"Don't despair, Oscar, my life-long flaccid friend.' We'll just assume the intended jest went right over the reader's head." | |
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| 10-09-13 12:29am - 4093 days | #5 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
 Of course it is, rearadmiral. Of course it is. Don't know if the site is legit though; Max got a bad break, even for a pornographer, and it's not been too clear what he's been officially doing since. He had a nice looking mansion, at least from the way it appeared in his videos (though considering what happened in the videos, you'd think no one would want to live there), and I think the government might have gotten that as a result of his conviction. Polarizing or not, the fact that he was tried and convicted only confirmed my cynical beliefs about the kneejerk puritanism of this country (US, not Canada  ). Interesting how limiting "liberty" can be when the assholes in charge seem to only interpret laws by how offensive certain acts and people are. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 10-10-13 02:28pm - 4091 days | #6 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
pat: Thanks for all of this useful information. I agree that all of the material on the preview pages looks to be pre-prison stuff. And I also agree with you that some really old stuff would be great. Back before Max turned really crazy he was still cutting edge but not nearly over the top like he became in later years. I like to set the border between when he was just edgy to when he became extreme at the time when he stopped performing oral sex on his models. Looking back at Max in his really early days going down on a woman just seems so out of character for his later stuff. It might be that I have a special place in my heart for Max because he directed and starred in the first scene I saw with Tammi Ann, who is still one of my all-time favourite models. That was the first volume in his Hitchhiker series. And thanks for the tip on the site billing through Verotel. I didn't notice that. As for new scenes, I haven't seen any (but I'm not looking either) though I have heard of a scene he supposedly shot with Bonnie Rotten. Apparently that didn't go so well for Bonnie. I have no idea if this is just an urban legend or if he is filming again. | |
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| 10-10-13 02:36pm - 4091 days | #7 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
^There was a time when Max shot some amazing anal scenes. I don't know if you've ever seen his Anal Adventure series or his Hitchhiker one but those were really good. Sadly they are mostly all lost to time. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 10-10-13 02:57pm - 4091 days | #8 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
I fully agree. I'm sure not many people actually like what Max did, but no matter how you slice it, he was convicted for taping extreme acts among consenting adults that were then sold to other consenting adults. It offended some powerful people who feel the magic old man in the sky wouldn't like Max either and they imposed their will on him. As the internet continues to grow as the preferred medium for accessing porn, I wonder how this will change obscenity prosecutions. In the past, one powerful tool prosecutor's had was the idea of 'community standards.' That worked well when the actual community might not tolerate dirty books being sold at the local store, but where's the 'community' now? 20 years ago I'd have landed in jail for buying a magazine or video at a store that sold stuff like Kink puts out. Now I can download it and my neighbours don't know what I watch. How can they be offended (and demand that their view of what I should watch take precedence over my own) if they don't even know what legal stuff I'm legally downloading??? | |
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| 10-10-13 03:14pm - 4091 days | #9 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
Had to go look up Tammi, just because you mentioned she was a favorite. She did a lot of lez work in the 90's. Found really only one (of 3) scenes she did on Pornstar network that looked interesting. I fear there will not be much to found of her these days. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee. If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! | |
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| 10-10-13 03:34pm - 4091 days | #10 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I read on another forum, which was itself quoting from another forum, that Bonnie Rotten vehemently denies ever shooting for Max, though he may have at one time after recently getting out of prison shot a scene with her. The rumor seems to be that it was one of her first scenes (talking about going in the deep end first!  ) and he released a trailer for the video it was going to be on and then took that down a day or two later, making it clear why this would all be rumors and innuendo. Kind of ironic that a performer named Bonnie Rotten would so adamantly deny working with Max, as he's generally considered the more rotten one. I'm starting to sound like some kind of anti-porn nut; "Why wouldn't you have worked with him, you've already spread your legs for many other dirty sinning men."  Edit: Uh oh, a little more research and I found this: Fuck Puppets 2, but I don't know if it was ever actually released anywhere. The cover image clearly states "Introducing Bonnie Rotten," as well as "US Version" but I'm sure it's still Max-level depravity. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 10-10-13 04:05pm - 4091 days | #11 | ||
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Liberty seems to be awfully subjective to some, no matter how consensual an act in question is. And I'm sure there are more than a few self-styled libertarians who would love nothing more than to lock up dirty fornicators like Max because it offends them "morally." How pathetic is it that Max could move to a European country without the same Bill of Rights the U.S. has (at least in theory!) and never be bothered for his videos? Hell, Abby Winters, which at times looks like an R-rated art project, felt the need to leave Australia for the wicked pastures of the Netherlands.
At least within the U.S. (sorry, can't speak for Canada), the issue of legality and 'prosecutability' seems to rest in part on who's in the White House. During those intern-chasing Clinton years Porn Valley seemed to be doing quite well and never really worried about getting in serious legal trouble. DVDs became the profitable thing while the Internet started to offer some greater promise, albeit before the technology could catch up and really scare producers and copyright owners, not to mention offer access to an enormous variety and volume of content that redefined the term "hardcore" and took it to 11.  Then George Dubya Dumbass and his corps of moral crusaders came in and people started to get nervous again. Besides the obvious problems of "the gays" and which country to invade next, his administration eventually formed the Obscenity Prosecution Task Force within the Justice Department to figure out which of those filthy sex tape makers were truly up to no good. I guess if you preside over 152 executions as governor it doesn't hurt to remind The People that your heart is still in the right place (or that you have one) and go after those who like to film the sex. I've always been floored by the insane subjectivity of the "community standards" test. Would such nonsense be allowed for other legal issues? I'd imagine some communities' "standards" could include such delightful ideas as segregated schools, privatized emergency services, and mandatory church attendance. So why exactly is something so hostile to the 1st Amendment even legally acceptable? "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | ||
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| 10-11-13 06:47am - 4090 days | #12 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
Hitting the zoom on the back cover of said video, the banner under Bonnie says, "Bonnie is rotten to the core so I use her like a disposable fuck doll". Never having had a "fuck doll", though I have seen some ads for them, are they that cheap to become disposable or do you wash them off and do it again? Find anything else turboshaft? If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee. If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! | |
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| 10-11-13 09:52am - 4090 days | #13 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
^I think the reference could be for your basic blow up doll and these are pretty cheap when compared to anything with the words "Real Skin" in the title. As for that Fuck Puppet movie starring Bonnie Rotten. I guess Max has at least shot one new scene because Bonnie is fairly new in the industry so the scene had to have been shot in the last year or two at the most. Sadly based on the other performers then her scene may be the only new scene because the other performers are all retired and not recently either. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 10-11-13 02:45pm - 4090 days | #14 | ||
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Max seems to treat all of his unfortunate costars as disposable fuck dolls, making a nauseating mess of them and then they never appear alongside him again (or underneath in a vicious chokehold). There certainly are cheaper ones out there, though I don't know if they're intended to be disposable. And even a Lars and the Real Girl-style won't upchuck all over you like in a Max Hardcore video. 
Only illegal downloads, nothing official or legit.  And it's definitely post-prison Max, as Ms. Rotten was born in 1993 and no other performer looks quite like her or has such unique tattoos. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | ||
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| 10-11-13 04:36pm - 4090 days | #15 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
That name "Bonnie Rotten" just cracks me up. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 10-11-13 05:40pm - 4090 days | #16 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
^It has the distinction of being original. I think she has a beautiful face and I guess underneath all those tattoos there is a beautiful body. I'll never know because I can't look past them. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 10-12-13 06:08am - 4089 days | #17 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
Not related to Bonnie Rotten but to Max, I've seen about three scenes of his with Mya Nicole, Jayda Diamonde, Jenna & Skyler James on the Pornstar Network. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee. If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! | |
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| 10-12-13 03:39pm - 4089 days | #18 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
jberryl69, just out of curiosity, why does Pornstar Network have a category called "Female Ejaculation" and another one called "Squirting?" Is there some significant difference between the two (beyond both looking kind of faked after a while)? "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 10-12-13 03:56pm - 4089 days | #19 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
She's definitely one of those girls where you have to accept the ink or not. I mean, she's got spiderwebs for areolae, that's not exactly something you just look past if you're not into tattoos. My only issue is they make her look older than she is (again, born in '93), because they look like something that would take years to add up, not something a girl would have by 19 or 20. Still, beats the butterflies and random Asian lettering so many others get. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 10-12-13 05:15pm - 4089 days | #20 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
You're asking the wrong person there turboshaft. I joined that site for one reason only, to download a couple of loadmymouth scenes. Other than that I was damn disappointed with the rest of the site. I did use my 30 days to poke around (ended on the 12th after a really shitty performance by Ivana Sugar with Brandon). Not a network I would particularly recommend, especially as when you're a member they put up separate browser pop-up pages. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee. If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! Edited on Oct 13, 2013, 06:21am | |
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| 10-13-13 09:48am - 4088 days | #21 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
Not sure but it could be a case of laziness on their part or they actually wanted to split the women who squirt like ten feet away from the vaginas and those that have a more realistic ejaculation. Of course realistic in a porn sort of way. Frankly if anyone is really interested in the movies offered by the site then simply join VB or VideosZ. It's probably cheaper and you'll get more content anyway. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 10-13-13 03:52pm - 4088 days | #22 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
VB is very much like Pornstar Network - at least that was my experience with them last month. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee. If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! | |
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| 10-13-13 04:58pm - 4088 days | #23 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
^True but VB has way more movies than Pornstar Network so anyone interested in this type of content is better off going the VB route. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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