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| 12-05-13 03:08pm - 4035 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Looking for evidence! Have you ever come across any evidence in picture sets or videos that the female was truly aroused? I have ever only come across it in "In The Crack" and in no other place and there it was too gynecological to be erotic. Oh, yes, there were a couple of pictures showing arousal in one of the ATK sites, come to think of it, but that's about it. There's plenty of evidence of artificial lubrication but very little of the natural kind. Do models ever get turned on by what they are doing, I wonder, or is it all for the money, with sexuality put on the back burner? Just wasting some time on a Thursday afternoon!  | |
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| 12-05-13 04:33pm - 4034 days | #2 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
Well Messmer, here's a waste back at you. If you're talking about them aroused into an orgasm, I do believe I've seen that. Blushed chest & neck, nipples turgid, etc. Vocals are not counted in porn. Of course I've also seen nipples go turgid when they are throated but that might not be the arousal you were looking for. As far as wetness, well - that's really hard to tell. Squirting is difficult to peg. Female ejaculation or pissing? Who knows. I once got a girl to squirt with my thumb which was the first time I'd seen a woman ejaculate. And another woman with my tongue, but I swear the latter just pissed herself. She was a nurse practitioner and pretty much didn't know what was going on but she was sweetheart and I didn't complain. Oh - it's also nice seeing you fog a mirror on PU again.  If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! | |
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| 12-05-13 05:50pm - 4034 days | #3 | |
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biker (0)
Active User  Posts: 632 Registered: May 03, '08 Location: milwaukee, wi |
In a blooper segment of a video I did see a woman start to orgasm before the scene had hardly started and she was screaming for a towel while she squirmed around trying not to squirt all over the set they were shooting on. She was going through all kinds of contortions to hold back her eruption. The guy just stood there holding his cock and looking like a idiot. Finally a member of the crew got her a towel to put between her legs. Does this mean women have orgasms in every scene? I don't believe so. They start and stop scenes so much to get different camera angles or have the performers change position, it probably ruins the thrill of having sex. I would bet a woman orgasms more often in a solo scene then with a partner. Most often the only time I see them wet is after they have been licked and spit on. Warning Will Robinson | |
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| 12-05-13 06:10pm - 4034 days | #4 | |
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Micha (0)
Active User Posts: 321 Registered: Jul 04, '10 Location: san jose ca |
Blushed chest & neck ? That' a good sign in real life, so maybe also in erotica. I have many stills and videos where the "acting" is very convincing. These are my favorites. Are they faking? Who can say? I've been fooled as a participant, so why not as a viewer. A woman taking pleasure is one of the most awesome things to see. If it is acting, it can be convincing. unless life also gives you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck. | |
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| 12-05-13 08:26pm - 4034 days | #5 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Thanks guys, very interesting answers. I wasn't thinking so much of orgasms but of the tell-tale sign of arousal like obvious wetness of the vagina. Is there a name for it, like pre-cum in a man? I know the secretion is slightly milky looking, it's not squirting ... I am blushing because this must be the most graphic I've ever been on any forum. All I know is that I would love to come across a set of pictures like that, a set that would convince me that, gee, this woman is really into it ... someone who really likes displaying herself to the world. Okay, the money helps, you can tell that she's an exhibitionist at heart and not just a paid pro or semi-pro!  | |
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| 12-05-13 09:40pm - 4034 days | #6 | |
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Micha (0)
Active User Posts: 321 Registered: Jul 04, '10 Location: san jose ca |
Messmer wrote : I am blushing because ......... Embarassment or arousal? Splotchy redness in the chest,neck and face is an indication of arousal according to the 70's print psychologists advising male readers how they can tell if their partners orgasm was genuine. unless life also gives you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck. | |
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| 12-05-13 11:16pm - 4034 days | #7 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
The post that previously occupied this space has been deleted. The reason being, that even I, the author of that mishmash of incomprehensible drivel, upon my later reading it at one of my sober moments, couldn't understand a friggin' word.  Edited on Dec 06, 2013, 12:16pm | |
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| 12-06-13 05:50am - 4034 days | #8 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
Damn Messmer - you sure you aren't just describing a vag infection?  From http://women.webmd.com "A woman's vagina normally produces a discharge that usually is described as clear or slightly cloudy, non-irritating, and odor-free." From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaginal_secretion "Vaginal lubrication is a lubricating fluid that is naturally produced in a woman's vagina. Vaginal lubrication or moistness is always present, but production increases significantly during sexual arousal in anticipation of sexual intercourse. Plasma seepage from vaginal walls due to vascular engorgement is considered to be the chief lubrication source, and the Bartholin's glands, located slightly below and to the left and right of the introitus (opening of the vagina), also secrete mucus to augment vaginal-wall secretions." But I know of no videos that seek out this secretion to display. Probably too subtle for porn producers - If it don't squirt it's no show. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee. If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! | |
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| 12-06-13 11:11am - 4034 days | #9 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
LOL. Definitely embarrassment, Micha!  | |
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| 12-06-13 11:15am - 4034 days | #10 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
 Okay, let me change it to "slightly cloudy." And I agree it might be a bit difficult to show in a video. I am thinking mostly picture sets! Thank you for giving me a word to use without embarrassment: vaginal lubrication. Does sound awfully clinical, though!  | |
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| 12-06-13 11:20am - 4034 days | #11 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
But, but .. I don't want to think myself of full possession of this woman, my old friend. I am a voyeur .. I just want to look! And it would help to know that the model enjoys showing off her goodies even though she gets compensated for the shoot. | |
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| 12-06-13 11:27am - 4034 days | #12 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User  Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
I've recently gotten more interested in sites that feature unscripted and/or self-videotaped sex scenes for the very reason of seeing models that are actually aroused rather than playing the part. While common belief is that vaginal secretion is the best indicator of arousal, it really isn't. As jberryl69 pointed out, you can look for neck and chest flushing, though the visibility of this varies for individuals (skin color aside, some people blush more than others). Interestingly, usually a better indicator is that both the nose and lips contain erectile properties and will enlarge and flush during arousal (the ears will also flush). Often times when one sees users complaining about "sick" girls needlessly performing sex scenes and citing the red nose, lips and excess saliva as evidence - they may actually be witnessing a truly aroused performer. Those are only some of the more obvious indicators of arousal. Desensitivity to pain is another good indicator. Mary Roach wrote a hilarious and informative book that covers this subject entitled: "Bonk: The Curious Coupling of Science and Sex". I highly recommend it. As for videos with genuinely aroused women, I recommend CzechAV - they have Czech Mega Swingers and Czech Amateurs. ATK's new site ATK Girlfriends also features some genuine arousal scenes as well. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 12-06-13 02:28pm - 4034 days | #13 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Thanks, toadsith, for your invaluable tips. I am going to see if Kindle has the book you recommend and also have a good look at the Czech and new ATK site. It's also nice to see you are still around. | |
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| 12-06-13 04:23pm - 4033 days | #14 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
I'll second that. I'm just so happy he even showed up at all. "Toad" is quite proper connecting his name ...... Suddenly he bobs up .... then goes under for God only knows how long ...... before the water parts and he gets a breath of air .......and under again he goes. | |
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| 12-06-13 05:52pm - 4033 days | #15 | |
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littlejoe (0)
Active User Posts: 49 Registered: Jan 25, '07 Location: earth |
i remember an ultimatesurrender scene where the girls are wrestling and one girls grabs the other crotch and was surprised she was wet | |
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| 12-07-13 07:46pm - 4032 days | #16 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I'm sure many get turned on all the time, though that really isn't the point and to what degree they are turned is not entirely clear. Making a good porn scene won't necessarily make for the most pleasurable performer experience. And the bonus or "just for the model's pleasure" videos I've watched that are marked as "genuine" do tend to be quite boring--slow, quiet, no ridiculous positions or facial expressions. Conversely, some of my favorite scenes are my favorite because of the entertainment value, and despite the obvious fun involved were probably a lot more effort than necessary to make a girl aroused, much less orgasmic. Like everything else in porn, separate the onscreen spectacle from reality and it's understandable that female orgasms aren't always occurring. Of course, it won't hurt to watch them keep on trying.  "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 12-08-13 05:58am - 4032 days | #17 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
How bout Pussy Juice? If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee. If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! | |
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| 12-08-13 12:54pm - 4032 days | #18 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
haha, yeah - that's pretty accurate "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 12-11-13 11:40am - 4029 days | #19 | |
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Simarimas (0)
Active Webmaster  Posts: 75 Registered: Nov 05, '11 Location: dallas Texas |
I have had several of my models get aroused while shooting. And these are not pornographic photos, but just stripping. Even have had some become aroused doing non-nude shoots. I think at some point they become jaded with it, but there are some who find it genuinely exciting. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site | |
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| 12-11-13 01:03pm - 4029 days | #20 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Do you have any picture sets with the proof of that, Simarimas? I would love to have some. | |
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| 12-13-13 05:55am - 4027 days | #21 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
Somewhat off topic - but dig jberryl69's qoute: "If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee." Reminds me of the great movie "My Cousin Vinny": "You never heard of gritts? - Sure, but I never actually seen a grit before..." The line comes approx: 0:52 in this trailer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL4HdaZXuOw "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" | |
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| 12-14-13 10:15am - 4026 days | #22 | |
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Simarimas (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 75 Registered: Nov 05, '11 Location: dallas Texas |
messmer, I don't believe I have any pictures showing real proof of arousal, as in 'vaginal lubrication' as I don't do alot of shots which would show that. However, I will be sure that the next time I shoot with a model who does become aroused I get the proof of it. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site | |
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