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| 12-03-09 07:49am - 5498 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
Porn in Afghanistan Got an old school-buddy who's doing another turn in Afghanistan - have had some e-mailing and get the info that quite a lot of those danish guys overthere - he included - are browsing porn on laptops in those few moments of off-duty (apart from mailing home/getting mail from home - the most importend deal) - jezz, I can understand that! Read somewhere that there's generally a need for laptops for soldiers in Afghanistan... Any US-PUs - or british, german ect. - got friends/relatives overthere? Let's get our troops back home from this new Vietnam-alike Godforsaken place - getting tired of hearing about soldiers from the US, Denmark, England ect. getting killed almost every day... (and the danish soldiers are doing service in the worst part of that country - along with US and British). Let those afghans deal with their own thing. Nothing we can do about it in the long run - it won't make any difference... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" | |
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| 12-03-09 09:17am - 5498 days | #2 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Well the Russians couldn't beat them. The terrain alone is treacherous. :0( Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award Hilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 12-03-09 10:37am - 5497 days | #3 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Hey, Denner, don't forget the contributions of the Canadians. Our soldiers are getting killed as well. And strangely enough our media keep telling us that they are serving in the worst part of the country. I wonder if there is any objective reporting going on anywhere? I think I know the answer to that already! :-( | |
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| 12-03-09 10:58am - 5497 days | #4 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
Sorry, of course - like in the Scond World War - the Canadians are in this too, - and I hear you have had some heavy loses overthere - and oh, yes: Canadians are in the Hellman Province - the worst place for what I hear... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" | |
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| 12-03-09 11:14am - 5497 days | #5 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
So the CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) tells us. I have mixed feelings about being in Afghanistan. Originally the professed purpose was to keep the Taliban down, after all they had provided the training bases for Al Qaeda, and to help the Afghan people re-build their country after years of war. But with Afghanistan being an Islamic Republic, and with all the corruption in the present government, and with a Constitution based on Sharia law which would allow the death penalty for offenses like promoting feminism as one example, I am starting to wonder if we are not sacrificing our boys for nothing, so I would no longer be unhappy if they all came home tomorrow. | |
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| 12-03-09 11:35am - 5497 days | #6 | |
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mr smut (0)
Active User  Posts: 107 Registered: Dec 27, '07 Location: Germany |
People from Afghanistan living here in Germany told me they would never vote for any politician in their own country because all of them are corrupt. That leaves a very foul taste because our soldiers die over there to protect those politicians. Just listened to some older music today and there I found a very good phrase "My religion is freedom, my faith is justice!" I'm with the people over there that just want to live in freedom and experience justice but with a bunch of corrupt leaders on one side and Taliban on the other I think there's not much we can do for them and just like our friend the captain wrote to fight against partisans in a country like this where gunman can hide almost everywhere ... it's impossible to win this war. All the best wishes to those serving in Afghanistan! Smut | |
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| 12-03-09 12:14pm - 5497 days | #7 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
x Edited on Apr 20, 2023, 01:36pm | |
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| 12-03-09 12:33pm - 5497 days | #8 | |
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jd1961 (0)
Active User  Posts: 296 Registered: Jun 07, '07 |
And now we have W Jr. in charge. | |
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| 12-03-09 03:43pm - 5497 days | #9 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
To WittyGuy: I will be scratching my head until the day I die as to why GW decided to invade Iraq (I think it goes deeper than a grudge) when he should have kept pursuing that murderous bunch of fanatics hiding at or around Bora Bora. | |
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| 12-03-09 07:45pm - 5497 days | #10 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Ugh, please don't say that...the Bushes still have way too many next-in-lines who are or will be eligible for executive office. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 12-03-09 08:40pm - 5497 days | #11 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
What a mess over there; a corrupt, weak government, whose only plus is not being a radical and violent theocracy (like Taliban-ruled Afghanistan...or our Middle East ally, Saudi Arabia). While we (I am speaking for the U.S.) send in 30,000 more troops to...do what exactly? This is where I get lost, because the majority of 'those who hate us' and 'those who would do great harm to us' are in Pakistan -- which seems to be dangerously close to imploding politically, with nukes! -- and the number of troops needed to completely stabilize Afghanistan has been estimated to be a prohibitive number, at least in the six figures. I also shudder every time some asshole official mentions drugs, because if there is one war we Americans have been fighting and losing the longest, it's the drug war (maybe the war on sex, but who knows). Recently there was a bit of news about three DEA agents who had died in a helicopter crash there. Tragic and more wasted lives to be sure, but can anyone answer why the hell there are federal drug agents in Afghanistan in the first place? When did 'those involved in 9/11' turn into 'drugs are bad'? I have been hearing plenty of bullshit about how their poppy plants are fueling terrorism, violence, etc. (just like marijuana!), but if we are really going down that road lets just pull all of our forces out, set up some puppet quasi-anti-narcotics force, and then just throw a few billion at them every year without having to directly kill any more Americans. I guess I am pretty passionate about this because so few Americans seem to be, plus I spent a year in Iraq in the U.S. Army and I am still trying to figure out what, if anything, we every really accomplished there. At the time I was there (2006) Afghanistan still had a reputation as being just, or at least less pointless than Iraq, if damn near forgotten in comparison. But now...
I agree this isn't Vietnam, but for a whole litany of other reasons; fewer troops, fewer casualties (thus far, though still a lot less), almost immediate involvement in direct fighting, all volunteer forces, conflicts over completely different interests, etc. But I see your point; it could turn into the next Vietnam, with no real goals or focus, perpetual engagement (though Pres. Obama has said 18 months...). Whatever happened to change, hope, belief, and all that other crap? Wasn't 'change' meant to say not like the previous idiot in chief, who started all these fuck-ups? I am not too hopeful here for a couple of reasons. First, history sucks: we still have troops in Germany, Japan, Italy, South Korea, and the U.K., with small numbers in dozens of other countries. When the U.S. crashes other countries' parties we are in it for the long term. Seriously, when's the last time no really meant no? Second, gradual is the way to enlightenment: a lot of our past conflicts started rather suddenly, and this one began pretty much like that -- 9/11 and then a month later an invasion of Afghanistan -- but it's now in the slow-but-steady stage. I'm afraid a lot of people are not overly worried about 9/11 as they were during the early Bush years but the new administration assumes they still are, thus using it as a weak excuse to continue this bullshit ad nauseam. Here's to being so sure you are 100% right 100% of the time. :( "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 12-03-09 09:03pm - 5497 days | #12 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
It's complicated. I'm not one to believe in conspiracies (or much else it seems) but I do think Bush 'n' friends were great opportunists. It's generally understood that his administration wanted to do something about Iraq once he was sworn in, but it would be pretty hard to do it just out of the blue, so when 9/11 occurred there was a lot of talk about making it happen since they had an excuse. Again, this is not tin foil hat conspiracy, just the typical inner workings of people in power, though we usually don't hear about it until long after. This idea of doing something about Iraq has been around for a while; look up the Project for the New American Century, a think tank started in the '90s that focused on, among other stellar ideas, reshaping the Middle East -- with emphasis on Iraq -- into a more democratic region so as to best serve American interests, particularly future energy and security needs. They wanted Clinton to do more, a lot more, but of course nothing really happened beyond some missile strikes during his blowjob scandal. They published a report in 2000, "Rebuilding America's Defenses," which was signed by a lot future Bush officials, and then a year later...9/11. When opportunity knocked, the think tank urged W to answer. Was W responsible for 9/11? I seriously doubt it, but there was a lot of incompetence and ignorance that helped it to get carried out, and then all these Pax Americana douchebags to help mold it into part of a greater conflict so as to serve their interests and beliefs, no matter the costs or consequences. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 12-04-09 08:15am - 5497 days | #13 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Hi, turboshaft, yes I was aware of the Project for the new American Century. I also knew how terribly eager they (the folks behind the "think" tank) were to find some excuse, any excuse to invade Iraq, and that was before 9/11 as you mentioned. What I don't get is how those idealogues could be so stupid as to start a war when they should have put all of their effort into capturing Bin Laden and company. | |
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| 12-04-09 09:28am - 5497 days | #14 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
Think messmer is right - we - the western world - should never had started those wars in either Iraq or Afghanistan. Insted those 'bright minds in our goverments' should have targeted assholes like Bin Laden and alike in much more devious ways - and learned from history. Though Iraq and Afghanistan may not be a new Vietnam - it's somewhat close to. Do not think we've won the trust of the people in those countries - and we never will. And the infiltration in ordenary folks is overwhelming - and a lot of those 'folks' rather stick to their 'own kind' - including Taleban than western christian soldiers (according to my buddy in Hellman). War against terror is kind of guerilla warfare too - maybe leave this to the intelligence-services - joined. Anybody here get pissed off, if Bin Laden & Co. is dealt with in the most extreme way - not this user... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" | |
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| 12-04-09 03:40pm - 5496 days | #16 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I hate to say it, but I think it's because bad ideas and self-serving interests die hard. Even today, eight plus years after 9/11, so many of the issues and 'problems' discussed and legislated are comparatively petty and minor. Take the gay marriage issue for example; there are currently more than 100,000 U.S. troops in Iraq and we still want get hot and bothered about same-sex marriage. 'Only' 11,000 jobs were lost last month and the biggest news item is Tiger Woods' sex life. Stupidity is hard to explain, but if you believe in some cause or goal than doing every idiotic, wasteful, hurtful thing to accomplish it is probably worth it in your mind. Now with the Afghanistan surge there are still assholes around to argue that when Bush did pretty much the same thing he did it better and made everything right in the end. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 12-04-09 03:47pm - 5496 days | #17 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
It's pretty crazy that it took a European PU'er to bring up this topic in the first place, but maybe because you guys didn't create such wonderful things as "Dancing with the Stars" and "The Real Housewives of..." and instead you worry about your fellow citizens being killed or injured in an international conflict. As far as Bin Laden, he might just die of natural causes or old age like so many of America's most hated enemies. Name some of the most destructive leaders of the 20th Century (at least by U.S. standards) and the majority of them did not die in prison or at the hands of American forces. Still, we could get lucky one day and hit him with a missle, but I'll bet we bomb a school or hospital in the process. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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