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05-30-12  08:38pm - 4589 days Original Post - #1
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Is It a Ripoff If There's No Anal Fucking In a Scene On An Anal Site?

This question was brought to mind by one of the hottest scenes I've seen on Anal Teen Angels - an adorable little blonde called Ioana (those Eastern Europeans sure like their vowels!)

When I saw her pic, I was wondering how such a tiny little thing was going to do anal and she was paired with a guy who, while not a giant, was a strapping young stud. When he attempted anal for a few seconds, she said, "I don't think I'm going to be able to do it" and he contented himself in fucking her hot little pussy. She fingered her asshole for a minute or so, but that was as much anal as there was in the scene.

Kudos to 21st Sextury for putting it up, because I think it's one of the hottest scenes on that site. I'm sick of the "well, we call it this so we have to do this" mentality of much of the world of porn. Sometimes doing something that many would think of as more "vanilla" is sexier.

Your thoughts?

05-30-12  10:53pm - 4589 days #2
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I happen to agree. I think the scene you describe seems even more real then the typical stuff that just runs a muck.

Kudos to the site owners for going against the grain..


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05-31-12  12:19am - 4589 days #3
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I know the exact scene you speak of and I wasn't disappointed. Firstly because Ioana is quite attractive and I'm glad she is still working. Secondly, she has done mountains of anal content in the past, including double penetrations, so if she didn't feel like doing it on that shoot, who cares? I'm not hugely certain she is a fan of it and while I enjoy her past work (and it isn't going anywhere if I want to check it out later) I'd rather her be comfortable and genuinely turned on. Oh if we could get directors to relax and allow scenes to evolve organically. Specifically, telling their performers to stop robotic moaning would be a giant leap in the right direction.

For Ioana in particular, she practically paled at the suggestion of double anal during an interview, so I think she may be moving away from that genre. Or maybe she just wasn't feeling it that day, who knows?

I'm glad that 21 Sextury posted the scene despite its lack of anal - they didn't really have a different area well suited to posting, except maybe Club Sandy but I don't think Sandy was anyway associated with shoot so that would be even more misleading that placing it in the anal category. This is the problem with creating specific sites within a network - it can lead to confusion. None-the-less, I think they made the best decision. Some people will be grumpy, but who cares? "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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05-31-12  06:32am - 4588 days #4
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Regardless that the scene was great or not. It doesn't change that it was a ripoff for 21sextury to use it in an anal only site. It's not like they couldn't have not the main fetish. It's not as bad because it was Ioana and she already has plenty of anal scenes on 21sextury's sites but if this had been a newbie then I think more people might be serioulsy pissed that she didn't have anal sex in an anal only site.

One of my biggest pet peeves of all time is the old anal bait and switch. This is when a producer hires a popular performer to appear in their anal movie and then she is the only one who doesn't do anal. I got burned plenty of times because of that. I can see why they do it because they must get a lot more people to buy their movie with having that girl in it but it's a pure ripoff. This is nothing new because they were doing that 30 years ago. Long live the Brown Coats.

05-31-12  08:36am - 4588 days #5
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The scene you describe wouldn't bother me if I found it on an anal-themed site. The model is known for doing anal and tried in this scene too. That is a bit of a turn on for me too. It adds to the realism of the scene.

But I can only take so much of that. I agree with pat's comment about bait-and-switch being used in many DVDs.

Another issue is when an anal series seems to drop anal. This appears to have happened with Tom Byron's House of Ass series. At some point in the series I downloaded a few new titles and was unpleasantly surprised to learn that there was exactly zero anal in a couple of them. I agree that "House of Ass" can be used to denote more than anal, but since Byron is an anal king and includes anal in most of what he does it seemed odd to exclude anal.

05-31-12  10:42am - 4588 days #6
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I think throwing in curve ball is not all bad, I do however agree if it was a consistent issue then I would not like it.

I joined digital desire and allot of stuff is BTS, now the site says very nothing of this when you join. I am thinking great a site where ladies get nekid and have fun. However the site has BTS more then they tell you and it is a complete turn off and waste of time being thats not why I joined it. If it was a few thrown in I could care less, but there is at guess 4 outta 20 of the videos are BTS .

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05-31-12  12:06pm - 4588 days #7
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Originally Posted by rearadmiral:


Another issue is when an anal series seems to drop anal. This appears to have happened with Tom Byron's House of Ass series.

Tom is definetly guilty of this but Jules Jordan takes the cake when it comes to releasing titles that were once primarily all anal and to where they don't even have one in them. Check the series This Butt's 4 you. He isn't the director because it's Erik Everhard but his company produced the series. The first two were all anal and then in the third one they started to add non-anal scenes and it got worst with the subsequent ones because the bulk of the scenes were non-anal and when they have an anal scene then it's always a girl with multple anal scenes under her belt. Long live the Brown Coats.

05-31-12  12:20pm - 4588 days #8
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There are shades of gray. I remember watching through all the original Deep Throat Love scenes and liking Daisy Marie's failed deep throat attempts because of how hard she unsuccessfully tried. Now, though, that site keeps releasing scenes of girls who are able to deep throat with ease but I feel ripped off because they only do it briefly.

05-31-12  05:46pm - 4588 days #9
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^Actually there isn't. If a performer doesn't do a deep throat in a deep throat themed movie then that is a ripoff just as if a girl doesn't do anal in an anal themed movie is a ripoff. That doesn't mean that the scene they put out isn't good but that it will be disapointing. Long live the Brown Coats.

06-01-12  12:15am - 4588 days #10
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The last comment is where I disagree with you, Pat. It's a matter of taste and I find the "swerve" refreshing. There are limits. If a site or series had a certain theme and gave it up, I wouldn't be into it.

Robbie D had a series of DVD's for Digital Playground called Control, for instance. Control can mean lots of different things and the first DVD under that name was very cool in having various aspects of the term, including a crazy hot scene where Lannie Barbie is a kidnap victim - it seems.

But by the time Control 2 came out, it was watered down and went further south from there to where it became a series with no theme - just whatever scenes Robbie D hadn't put into his other DVD's. So that was boring, since they weren't even particularly great scenes and there became nothing at all to pay attention to.

But a single "I'm too tiny to do anal" scene on an anal site - that's cool, in my opinion and goes up against the cookie cutter nature of the current state of porn.

06-01-12  06:13am - 4587 days #11
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^I agree that one scene isn't the end of the world since the site is already full of them but let's say that the girl in question is one that you think is amazing and she has never done anal. You are surfing the net and come upon news that she has a sex scene on an anal only site. You take out your credit card, you join the site and then you go on her scene and find out that she the only girl that doesn't do anal. I'm sure that you'll be happy about the rest of the content but you can't tell me that you won't be pissed because I don't know if I woult believe you. I know that I would be seriously pissed.

You and I are savy porn surfers so it's unlikely that we would get burned because we would have done some research prior to joining and we would have found out that the scene does not include anal or inser whichever fetsih you like but the average porn surfer probably will act first. Long live the Brown Coats.

06-02-12  01:40am - 4587 days #12
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


I think throwing in curve ball is not all bad, I do however agree if it was a consistent issue then I would not like it.

I joined digital desire and allot of stuff is BTS, now the site says very nothing of this when you join. I am thinking great a site where ladies get nekid and have fun. However the site has BTS more then they tell you and it is a complete turn off and waste of time being thats not why I joined it. If it was a few thrown in I could care less, but there is at guess 4 outta 20 of the videos are BTS .

So not a happy camper


Do you think that had the sites in general never once issued any BTS scenes that anyone would complain? I somehow doubt it. It isn't like you join a site, get a bunch of pro content, and then think to yourself, "Why aren't there any pictures of the model eating fruit salad? Where is the video of the stud clowning around with the model on bicycles? Where are the pictures of the people playing horseshoes? You know, the one's taken with the cheap camera about 5 minutes 'til dusk." I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Jun 02, 2012, 02:42am

06-02-12  08:17am - 4586 days #13
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Would anybody complain if there were no BTS material? I seriously doubt it. BTS material is a bonus. It can be cool to get more of a sense of the real personality of the performers and if done a certain way, you can learn what goes on in a real porn shoot. If done accurately, you'll learn that what goes on for many people is a lot of standing around while the tech people do all their stuff - like any kind of shoot.

But unless a site is advertising as being heavy on the BTS, having it replace non-BTS material is a serious negative in my book. It says, "We're not doing anything new that we're proud of so we're just going to fill up the site with all the stuff that we never would have posted when we were actually doing good stuff."

ALS Scan posts a fair amount of BTS material - but they post SO MUCH new non-BTS material that they can post whatever they please, in my opinion, and people can just ignore what they don't like and have no reason to complain about the site not living up to its main reason for existing.

06-02-12  08:24am - 4586 days #14
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


Do you think that had the sites in general never once issued any BTS scenes that anyone would complain?


I think when they make it the update that I am bothered by it. If they just put it there, no problems. But the site does not say they put BTS to be in there updates. So waiting patiently for a new video only to have a discussion on what she likes her hair to be like kills the mood.

Thats where it kinda kills me on this.
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