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| 12-25-08 09:33am - 5841 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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Monahan (0)
Active User  Posts: 348 Registered: Jan 17, '07 Location: SF Valley, CA |
Is This The Future of Access Limitations to Internet Porn? This is scary and could easily be the first step to some form of Big Brother oversight of internet porn. Associated Press Published: December 25, 2008 Australia considers "Great Aussie Firewall" SYDNEY, Australia (AP) - Australia is considering an Internet filter that could be one of the strictest among democratic countries. What's being called the "Great Aussie Firewall" would block at least 1,300 Web sites prohibited by the government. The sites in question mostly contain child pornography, excessive violence, instructions in crime or drug use and advocacy of terrorism. The government is not making public the list of prohibited sites. Hundreds protested in state capitals in Australia earlier this month, and critics include consumers, engineers, Internet providers and politicians from opposing parties. A lab test of six filters found they missed 3 to 12 percent of material they should have blocked and wrongly blocked access to 1 to 8 percent of sites. The most accurate filters slowed browsing speeds up to 86 percent. | |
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| 12-25-08 12:15pm - 5841 days | #2 | |
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jd1961 (0)
Active User  Posts: 296 Registered: Jun 07, '07 |
They control newspapers, libraries,schools, radio, television, satellites---why would anyone be surprised that they would control the internet? Those prohibited sites listed have been the ongoing excuse to do this. | |
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| 12-25-08 12:56pm - 5841 days | #3 | |
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Jeffrey99 (0)
Active User  Posts: 106 Registered: Nov 04, '08 Location: Good Ole Midwest USA |
I think that's the most telling fact form the whole article. If it stays that way, it won't last long. You can't expect people to go from DSL back to dialup speeds. While I'm not for censorship, I'm kinda torn due to the fact that what they want to block is illegal. I mean if you really think about it, it's no different then the FCC here in the US. With their rules on what you can/can't say/show on radio/tv. | |
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| 12-25-08 10:17pm - 5841 days | #4 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
This is pretty scary, even if you live in the U.S. and have been subject to its various forms of censorship your whole life (freakin' FCC is a good example). While it's easy to not watch TV or listen to the radio, how many of us are really willing to give up the Internet? Whether it's research, or the "research" that we members prefer to do, or anything else for that matter, how much speed and freedom can sacrifice? And what if it is part of that 1 to 8 percent that was wrongly blocked? Any members from Australia have thoughts about this (assuming you're legally allowed to have any)? "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 12-26-08 06:04am - 5840 days | #5 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User  Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
That's exactly what I have been saying. They will find a way to control things, as they always have. All we can do is make it as difficult as possible for them. | |
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| 12-26-08 09:32am - 5840 days | #6 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
Lets say that for argument sake, they do manage to put their plan to block access to the internet in action. How long do you think it will last? The backlash from such an action would be gigantic. The fact is that if you limit something or forbid it then human nature takes over and people want more of it. The US prohibition may be the best example. None of us were alive back then, but I'm pretty sure that nobody had difficulty in getting a drink. The problem is that by preventing people from getting this legally you create an entire network of illegal means. In effect the Government was resposible for creating one of the biggest crime wave in US history. Until prohibition you had gangsters that mostly dealt with drugs, prostitution and gambling, but with prohibition you had them dealing with alcohol. That meant that your everyday guy was in fact giving money to organize crime. The same thing could happen in Australia or any other country with a similar law. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 12-26-08 09:59am - 5840 days | #7 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Personally I trust organised crime more than I do any government. This isn't because I support organised crime, it's merely because I believe the biggest threat to any people's freedom and safety, comes not from outside but from its own government. So basically I do regard organised crime as a threat, but not as big a threat as organised government, which IMO, is far worse. | |
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| 12-26-08 10:17am - 5840 days | #8 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I recently read that there has been a new political party formed in Australia to fight things such as this firewall; the Australian Sex Party. And no, I'm not joking. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Dec 26, 2008, 10:22am | |
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| 12-26-08 12:10pm - 5840 days | #9 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
Yeah, I had a post on this subject in the "Free Speech and Porn" (post #21) thread about two weeks ago. It's basically in Beta test right now on a voluntary basis. Knowing the Aussies, they'll probably try it out, find out it doesn't work for shit and then pass it off to the rest of the world ;) If they do want it to work they're going to have to become a lot more like China and some Middle Eastern countries where they have active censors working on the blocks 24/7. The biggest problem with their little plan is that it's primarily meant to act as a block on child porn sites but today most child porn, from what I read, is handled through web groups and bulletin boards which would not be covered by the current Aussie system. Once again proof that if you want government to help you're just going to end up with a bigger headache than what you started with. | |
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| 12-26-08 08:06pm - 5840 days | #10 | |
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Jeffrey99 (0)
Active User Posts: 106 Registered: Nov 04, '08 Location: Good Ole Midwest USA |
If they really want to do this, why not do like the US with the patriot act? Rather then block sites, because as the article points out 1 to 8 percent are blocked wrongly, why not just record when someone visits one of those sites or searches for some keyword? Hell the US government records us when we say 1 of 100 keywords, so why not make the internet the same way? That way your not blocking any legit sites, your only punishing those that are seraching for the illegal stuff. | |
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