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05-14-09  04:06pm - 5701 days Original Post - #1
Wittyguy (0)
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Are the amateur cam sites playing with fire?

Some of the girls I've seen on the previews seem pretty young - as in questionably 18. I'm sort of thinking that these sites are taking some chances with all the rage about child porn, especially pics that minors take of themselves and pass around. Edited on Apr 20, 2023, 01:04pm

05-14-09  06:24pm - 5701 days #2
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I think you have a valid point. If they don't check for age, they will screw up one day for sure.

05-14-09  06:39pm - 5701 days #3
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For certain, sites (free or pay) that allow user submissions are playing with fire. Industry lawyers are pretty much in agreement that accepting user submissions is very risky.

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Users (surfers) who frequent sites that have user submissions are also at risk of downloading pics/vids of underage models. The risk of getting caught is much less than for the site owners but there is still a risk. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator
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05-14-09  07:24pm - 5701 days #4
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x Edited on Apr 20, 2023, 01:05pm

05-15-09  05:32am - 5700 days #5
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I never have checked out any of the pay sites but I have checked out a few of the thumbnail gallery post sites before. I never really have thought about saving images and if how they might be underage. I normally don't even look to make sure it has the USC 2257 labels. In my mind, I'd always considered child porn to be alot younger then that. So in my mind I never have thought about it.

However, I did find something that I found interesting on a site recently

"Model Age Verification All visual depictions displayed on this Web site, whether of actual sexually explicit conduct, simulated sexual content or otherwise, are visual depictions of persons who were at least 18 years of age when those visual depictions were created. All other visual depictions displayed on this Web site are exempt from 18 U.S.C. Section 2257 and 28 C.F.R. Part 75 because said visual depictions are not visual depictions of conduct specifically listed in 18 U.S.C Section 2256 (2) (A)-(D), but are merely depictions of non-sexually explicit nudity, or are depictions of simulated sexual conduct, or are otherwise exempt because the visual depictions were created prior to November 1, 1990, or were produced, manufactured, published, duplicated, reproduced, or reissued before May 26, 1992. The owners and operators of this Website are not the primary producer (as that term is defined in 18 U.S.C. Section 2257 and 28 C.F.R. Part 75) of all the visual content contained on the Web site. The Custodian of Records for content on this Web site for which the owners and operators of this Web site are the primary producer is:"

Isn't that like paragraph trying to take all responsibility from them? To me it saying that since some videos aren't explicit nudity or sexual acts that it included in the law. Is that actually possible?

05-15-09  07:38am - 5700 days #6
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I've got to agree that user submissions are playing with fire in the litigious USA where anyone under 18 is treated the same as a six year old in "sex" law, but not, ironically, in criminal law where most older teens are waved to adult courts for adult punishment. In the US we pretend that puberty takes place on one's eighteenth birthday.

Still, one is better safe than sorry, and when the witchunters are out one had best not be riding a broom. I'd stay far away from anything that looks like "jailbate." Jay G

05-15-09  11:43am - 5700 days #7
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No doubt any place with user submissions are playing with fire. However, while I think users (in terms of the people joining the site) should be careful, this is up to the company providing the content to keep track of the appropiate ages of the 'models' offered. It is risky and I have no idea how the user submissions are handled, if it is only giving out something like a credit card submission, obviously this does not mean they are 18 at all. Especially if it is disgruntled ex boyfriend/girlfriends with content while younger or just older than their counterparts.

In all honesty, I wonder how they attempt to confirm these submissions contain the correct ages. The only thing I can think of is a credit card confirmation when submitting. Any other ideas from others?

As far as the users go (in terms of the paid subscribers), I think it would be quite easy to provide how you obtained the content and would be quite easy to get 'off the hook'. It's not like you got the content knowingly and tried to share the content with others. If you know it and want to share it with the world, then you are just as bad as the company who providing it for you in the first place. Hell, even if you don't know it and try to share it with the world you should be held responsible. My 2 cents... Sexted From My iPad

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