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| 12-07-09 03:30pm - 5494 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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BabyGetReal (0)
Active User Posts: 39 Registered: Jul 26, '09 Location: Western Massachusetts USA |
Orgasms in Victorian Times vs. Now I have recently been watching videos from CasualTeenSex (which I will review soon). I think these videos were made somewhere in Russia. Even when the women enjoy the sex and have orgasms, they are all very quiet about it. I got the distinct impression that they are repressed, and that their culture dictates that they are not supposed to enjoy sex, and that if they enjoy it, they shouldn't show their enjoyment. On the Tell Me More program on NPR today (at npr.org, click Programs, then Tell Me More, then Dec. 7, 2009) is a segment "Female Sexuality Takes Center Stage With 'The Vibrator Play'", a play currently running in Lincoln Center, New York. The play concerns the 19th century medical concept of "hysteria" and its relief by manual or vibrator-induced paroxysms (orgasms) by physicians. Mechanical vibrators were invented for this purpose before light bulbs! The playwrite makes the point that during the Victorian era, women somehow developed collective amnesia about orgasms. She says that orgasms and how to induce them were well known in B.C. China, Renaissance Europe, and ancient India. It is interesting to contemplate a culture so repressive that it erased women's understandings of their own sexual needs, even to the point where there was no word for orgasm. Although we are surrounded by open sexuality now, it seems clear to me that in porn and elsewhere, the Victorian repressiveness persists in the difficulty that many women have in being open about their enjoyment of sex and orgasms. Perhaps this is worse in present-day Russia than in the USA. (The same NPR program also included "Adults Unlock Their Teen Diaries On Stage" and "Psychologist Wants Better Treatment For Women With Sexual Disorders". Hooray for Michel Martin!) | |
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| 12-07-09 03:38pm - 5494 days | #2 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
I think Michael Franks had the line: "You, you're the quiet, shy type/Always whisper, never shout it." And I've known some myself. Frankly, it's not necessary to make much vocal noise to enjoy sex. I don't myself, either. And it's not necessarily cultural. I once witnessed a woman of a certain stereotypically "repressed" culture -- Japan -- carrying on like nobody's business, and it wasn't on a porn flick, either. It was real life. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 12-07-09 11:50pm - 5494 days | #3 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
There is nothing wrong with quiet pleasure. ;0) Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award Hilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 12-08-09 08:25am - 5493 days | #4 | |
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WeeWillyWinky (0)
Active User  Posts: 243 Registered: Jun 03, '07 Location: Havasu City, AZ USA |
My ex-wife was from Mexico, and her father had a live-in girlfriend with him here in the US. She was in her late twenties, also a Mexican girl, had three children with him, and was a real stunner to look at. One afternoon my ex brought up the subject of orgasms with her, and this woman had no idea what she was talking about. She had no idea that women had orgasms. On the flip-side, my ex lived for a time with her brother and sister-in-law, and claimed that her sister-in-law was so vocal during sex you could hear her all through the house. My ex thought this was funny and it seemed to me she may have believed her sis-in-law was putting it on, as if to say, "Hey listen, we're having sex!" Edit: Rut-roh, Drooler has 666 posts... You know what I hate the most about selfish people? It's that they don't think enough about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! | |
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| 12-08-09 09:12am - 5493 days | #5 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
That just sounds incredibly sad. I wonder how many women there have been that have had no concept of a female orgasm? I understand that from a purely procreation standpoint there would be no need for a culture to be open about discussion or even just recognition of the female orgasm, but it would seem inevitable unless it was an extremely repressive society such as the Victorian west. I have never really understood why so many cultures have been this way beyond the obvious offenses of misogyny and our brain-dead fear of sex. I mean really what's the harm? It's not like a woman is going to waste a bunch of tissues or get pregnant just from having an orgasm. In fact I bet a lot of countries could have held off women's suffrage for a few more years with wider distribution of 'anti-hysteria' devices. Now as far as female ejaculation is concerned...that issue probably won't even be decided in our life times -- much more 'study' is needed. ;) "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 12-08-09 09:28am - 5493 days | #6 | |
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WeeWillyWinky (0)
Active User Posts: 243 Registered: Jun 03, '07 Location: Havasu City, AZ USA |
As for female ejaculation, I have only my personal testimony. My ex-wife had a sometimes copious issue during orgasm. It got all over, and was rather pungent. Friends (mostly female friends) have claimed that this issue was urine, but it did not smell or feel like urine. I never saw it squirt, though. The most convincing fem-ejac I've seen was in an old porno called "C.U.N.T.S" I saw one by Maria Ozawa, masturbation-induced, but it came at the end of a scene after several guys had come inside her, and I think maybe it was the residuum from that. It was in one of the uncensored vids I got from J Sex Network. You know what I hate the most about selfish people? It's that they don't think enough about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! | |
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| 12-08-09 07:04pm - 5493 days | #7 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
Sending this message from Heaven. And what are you still doing down there? ;) I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 04-24-10 11:19am - 5356 days | #8 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Uh oh, I've just passed 666 posts too... "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 04-30-10 10:46pm - 5350 days | #9 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
The breathing can be very sensual especially exhausted and sexxy. can be very hot. Since 2007 | |
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