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| 10-22-10 04:12pm - 5175 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
Male oriented straight porn (no, it isn't what you think) I’m still trying to recover from the hatred tossed at me when I mentioned “girl-girl,” “milk” and “enema” in the same sentence. If I hit a nerve with this post, please don’t bother with the flaming. Just don’t ask about strange fetishes if you’re hoping for “MILFs wearing wooly sweaters praying the rosary in a mahogany-lined chapel.” My thought for this post came about when I saw a recent addition to Videobox which was part of the “Shorty Mac’n Your Daughter” series, produced (presumably) by the male porn star Shorty Mac. I watched a couple of scenes, and what struck me is this guy seems to have porn backwards. Or maybe I do. He seemed to be the “star” and the girl was the window dressing. Unless I discover that I’m really a closeted gay guy attracted to short guys, I think this is a marketing flaw. But I might be wrong. (About the marketing. I’m pretty sure that any latent lust for short men would have revealed itself by now if it existed…) To me, porn is about women. A guy has as much status in a porn scene as the couch, bed or pheasant farm where the scene is filmed. For me, the scene is all about her: her expressions and reactions. Her orgasm. The guy is furniture. Do your job, do it well and shut the fuck up. Your orgasms is necessary as hardcore, but only for her (positive) reaction to it. But… there are lots of male porn stars who have featured themselves prominently in titles: Sean Michaels, Joey Silvera, John Stagliano, Peter North and Ron Jeremy. But with them, they seem to get that they may be the producers, directors and cast, but the women are still the stars. Take Peter North; he has several series with his name, several websites, but he never seems to try to upstage his female co-star(s). He seems to realize that the women are the draw. (And in a bit of irony, I happen to be over-nighting in Peter’s home town of Halifax tonight.) But there seems to be a shift: guys seem to be starting video and web series that are about them, and how they fuck women. Is this just a shift in our move to a culture where the only sin is anonymity? Facebook, Twitter, etc allow users to create a universe where they’re the center and that’s the reason for the male-centred porn. (Anything with “bus” in the title seems to illustrate my point.) I think this is new in porn. I’ve watched a lot of porn over the past 25 years and haven’t really encountered it. But now, there seems to be a trend to guys making porn about themselves. I’m all for free expression, but I’ll watch Aubrey Addams any day over Shorty Mac. And finally, as a tribute to his one-man, but female oriented videos, I say that when he dies (of a ripe old age) we ask that Randy Spears donate his hair to the Smithsonian. | |
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| 10-22-10 04:44pm - 5174 days | #2 | |
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Goldfish (0)
Active User  Posts: 265 Registered: Jan 19, '08 Location: Boston, MA |
I've seen that type of porn. It's been around a while but I tend to avoid it. If you shop around you can find sites with a minimal male-conceit factor. I agree women are, and should be, the stars of hetero porn. (IMO) I will say men are a notch or two higher than the furniture in importance however. LOL. A poor performance from the guy can kill an otherwise good scene. | |
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| 10-22-10 04:53pm - 5174 days | #3 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
I definitely try to avoid it. And thanks for calling it "male-conceit" porn. That's the best description of it I've heard yet and I'll call it that from now on. | |
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| 10-22-10 08:09pm - 5174 days | #4 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Maybe male-vanity porn is a more appropriate term than male-conceit. I'm not quite sure what the draw here is though. At first it sounded like it could be aimed towards a female audience, but most boy-girl material is usually too disrespectful and hardcore to really find much of a female viewership, though I'm sure they would still rather watch it then experience it. So I'm still unsure of why there is more and more of this. My guess is it's too many douche bags with cameras--I sometimes call this douche bag porn, but that be misleading to fetish hunters--and they end up focusing on themselves instead of the girl(s). They're just so happy and full of it that they bagged another one to go down on them on camera and it's more of a sexual conquest than just gonzo porn. I don't blame them for feeling proud--after all, all guys love to have another mark for the bedpost--but it I don't think it makes for great porn towards any audience. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 10-24-10 01:20am - 5173 days | #5 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended  Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
This idea is a big turnoff for me as well. I have no interest in following the career of any male pornstar. | |
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| 10-24-10 12:51pm - 5173 days | #6 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
I quite agree with all the above....but particularly the part about the guy "shuttin' the fuck up." That alone speaks volumes. I might add also that we can do without the male's peculier need to grab, squeeze, pinch and slapping the face, tits and cheeks of the woman's ass... What the hell is that all about?  | |
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| 10-24-10 03:45pm - 5173 days | #7 | |
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Monahan (0)
Active User  Posts: 348 Registered: Jan 17, '07 Location: SF Valley, CA |
Absolutely right. The only voice(s) I want to hear in any porn scene is female and only if it's real, not that fake moanie groanie nonsense. | |
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| 10-24-10 06:03pm - 5172 days | #8 | |
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Goldfish (0)
Active User Posts: 265 Registered: Jan 19, '08 Location: Boston, MA |
"Douche bag porn" -- love it turboshaft! | |
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| 10-24-10 06:13pm - 5172 days | #9 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I would tend to agree with you on this one, that it's too many douche bags with some money and a camera. I think the right guy can make the scene better just as the wrong guy can make the scene unwatchable. Most of these guys fall in the second category because once you make yourself the star of the movie then you've missed the point of who your customer is. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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