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| 12-11-11 08:50am - 4760 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
Bah, humbug! No, that isn't a Christmas sentiment, but rather a porn sentiment. At least it is in regards to my niche in porn and one of the reasons I have only six (6) reviews to my name. I can't find sites that cater to my perversion so I choose not to: a.) join site just so I can post a review; or b.) say I joined and post a fake review just to increase the number of reviews. (Do I get points for being honest?) Here is the state I find deep throating sites in. One of my favorite sites, throatjobs.com, no longer posts content. The last entry was Mallory Rae Murphy and she has been out of the business for a year. My second favorite site throated.com, and while I gave a great review last year, looking at the previews it offers there is not enough interest being generated for me to take another subscription at this time. Next is deepthroatlove.com which, looking at their previews, shows just about as much recycled materials as new material - and I know this because I already have those recycled scenes on my hard drive. Not enough time has passed for me to go and subscribe again. Amateurthroats.com - hard to tell if they post new content or not because their previews never change. And from my last experience with them, there was few scenes of interest in the end. I tried other sites in hoping to find content of interest but was very disappointed - I didn't give them bad reviews but I knew I'd never go back because they didn't cater to what I wanted. Two other sites have content, youngthroats.com ( and their associated site such as hornythroats.com) have a moke that takes great joy in making the model as uncomfortable as possible. At times his antic's can be humorous, but overall, instead of guiding these young throats into the ART of throating, it is his art of torture which is shown. There is some potential there. I also happen to be uncomfortable doing business with a company in Russia. The second of these sites is facialabuse.com, and the one I'm most tempted to join, is just a bit over the top with the abuse portion of their name. This is torture at it's worst (and not in the BDSM way), with the spitting, slapping and name calling takes all the pleasure out of the scene. But like I said, I'm tempted just to see if I can't edit down some that crap to get a few good takes out of it. Which brings me to the one which is most intriguing and the one I belong to the longest, evilangel.com. But here's the rub - It's probably more cost effective to buy the two or three videos they produce (which is what makes up the content they post) I'd be interested in. In addition to that, these videos can take quite awhile to make appearances on that site so the weekly content is not always the freshest material. Now I hope you understand the number six in my life and the humbug stuck in the throat. What's a guy to do but sit on the sidelines. Of course I'm open to any and all suggestions, criticism and comments. Oh, and happy holidays guys and gals. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee. If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! | |
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| 12-11-11 09:38am - 4760 days | #2 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I tried facial abuse twice in a period of 4 years and the second time was worse than the first. I should have known better since I hadn't kept a single video from my first time but they had a couple of my favorite models. I hoped they would have toned down the abuse but they didn't. I really like the stuff Kink does because it's more sex than BSDM. I'm not saying that there isn't bsdm in their stuff but they have seriously toned it down in the last few years. Facial abuse is really abuse of all kind first and sex is second. If there is one site where I feel very comfortable describing as mysoginistic then this is that site. I wish I could suggest a good deep throat site but the only scenes where I saw amazing deep throating were those where the girl was always in control and was trying to push herself. The problem is that I find that most deep throat scenes these days are more geared to where the guy is in control and trying to deep throat the girl. There's a great Jeanna Fine scene where you can see her deep throat a long penis and you see her throat stretch as the penis is going deeper in. I wish I could remember in what movie it was in. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 12-11-11 12:09pm - 4760 days | #3 | |
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Yariana (0)
Suspended Webmaster  Posts: 56 Registered: Mar 10, '10 Location: Salem Oregon |
Kudos on your honesty! I found this post refreshing. Not because of your difficulty finding content you desire but because it verifies a few of my frustrations with this industry. In response, I would like to share my experience if I may. The abusive behavior towards the talent really bothers me. I have been told by some that this really turns guys on and I should be less respectful to our girls and really "give it too them." I disagree and have stood my ground. I felt some relief from this post since it shares my views on the abuse issue. As for the recycled material and infrequent updates, I can say the niche you enjoy is a difficult one to work. There are few girls in contact with us that deep throat and most refuse to swallow or take it on the face. Though we do full sex scenes, we do require some blowjob footage but will not force facials or deep throat if the girls don't like to naturally do this. So, I can understand why some sites might have difficulty updating regularly with outstanding content, in this particular niche. I have noticed an increase in recycled material, even on some of the well known mega sites. Some sites are having difficulty for reasons mentioned above, while others are experiencing a drop in sales and cannot afford to film. Not all sites film their own content. For those that purchase content this is not generally an issue but for those that film their own original content, getting girls for scenes is often difficult. With a lack of new content to update, webmasters must choose between "no update" and "recycled material updates." Since a large portion of our members have been with us since 2009, when we changed from a clips site to a membership site, I don't think I could get away with recycling content nor would I feel comfortable doing so. And there is no way I could just let the site sit with no new content updates and feel comfortable accepting new members. To resolve this issue I had to get creative and came up with a solution for recurring members. My solution was to offer an "Update Guarantee" meaning, if we do not update within the week, we extend billing for that week so the recurring members don't pay for the week in question. We figured this would take some of the pressure off if we cant get reasonably good content to film, thereby eliminating our need to recycle or leave the site stagnant. This has helped some but in reality, membership sites are expected to update weekly and no creative solution will completely resolve this pressure. In summary, the abusive behavior towards talent is obviously not as appealing to everyone, as some sites think. And though I do not agree with the practice of recycling content and feel it is better to be honest with members and offer solutions as we have, I kind of understand why some sites are doing it. This is a really tough business to be in these days. The economy, piracy, and free porn have taken a huge toll on the adult industry. In our current economic climate, I foresee this just getting worse. It is a "Brave New World" and adult pay sites will have to evolve and find new solutions if they wish to thrive in this current economic climate. Edited on Dec 11, 2011, 07:08pm | |
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| 12-11-11 02:48pm - 4760 days | #4 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Here is one I came across quite a while back. http://www.willshegag.com/ Can't tell you much about it as it was just a quick strafe & move on.  Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 12-11-11 03:59pm - 4760 days | #5 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Yariana, What great insight I thought, thanks for sharing your input on this, It actually shed some clarity as I often wondered some of what you answered for me and it made allot of sense why these scenes are hard to find. Thank You CT Since 2007 | |
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| 12-11-11 04:01pm - 4760 days | #6 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Interesting site Capn. May have to check it out. PS Capn forgot to say thank you for the message update the other day appreciate it Capn. Since 2007 | |
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| 12-11-11 05:39pm - 4760 days | #7 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I'm not sure but I think we're finally reaching a critical point where the majority of studios still active in the industry are moving away from abuse porn toward a more balanced one where there may be some intensity but less slapping, spitting, feet, ass and what not in the girls faces. I really like the stuff kink puts out because I don't equate their content to abuse. There is slapping and I would rather not see it but they have made major advances in the way they shoot BSDM. Now i know some would say that Kink's content is abuse but I dare anyone of them to compare their stuff to what facial abuse produces. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 12-11-11 06:12pm - 4760 days | #8 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
I went and looked Capt - my first reaction upon looking at the Enter page was the throatjob's video ad and then upon entering noticing that the copyright was for between 2004 & 2008. It is content I have not seen before but I fear very limited volume wise. For instance Daisy Fox has been out of the movie business since 2007. It also isn't listed on our sites. Thanks for the direction though - my big fear is its old and few movies. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee. If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! | |
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| 12-11-11 07:28pm - 4759 days | #9 | |
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Yariana (0)
Suspended Webmaster Posts: 56 Registered: Mar 10, '10 Location: Salem Oregon |
You are welcome CT. Your above statement reminded me of a few things that happened recently. I frequently am contacted by potential porn producers who tell me they want to do what I do and ask how I do it. They are referring not only to setup of a company but production of "first time amateurs." I am always happy to share my resources which will provide them with an easier start up but also explain how difficult it is to film real amateurs. There are a lot of reasons for this but mainly because they rarely show up to shoots. A few months back I had this very conversation with a gentleman who argued that it couldn't possibly be that difficult. So I challenged him to give it a try if he felt my experience was an anomaly. He started off with a few newbies here and there but is now filming adult industry models, as is the case with many adult sites who start with the intention of filming real amateurs. Sometimes even I consider switching. How much easier it would be to just pick up the phone and order a model or two for the week. But I just can't do it! So the battle goes on! | |
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| 12-11-11 07:38pm - 4759 days | #10 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
There are two very separate points I'd like to address. The first is the niche-dearth that jberryl69 has experienced. I've had a similar one with ass sites. The best one is In The Crack (great photography, excellent babes). But as my tastes go, it doesn't do ass nearly as well as stuff you see at other sites (ATK Galleria, for example). It seems to me personally that the niche is being catered to, just not the customer. The second point is about the abuse of the models, which I cannot stand. If studios are finally moving away from that, so much the better. To me, sex is about affection, and abuse simply has no place with it. They're like water and oil. Well, to each their own? No. I'm not going to be politically correct and "tolerant" about those who like seeing women abused or like doing it themselves. They're sick. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 12-11-11 07:57pm - 4759 days | #11 | |
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Yariana (0)
Suspended Webmaster Posts: 56 Registered: Mar 10, '10 Location: Salem Oregon |
Awesome post! | |
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| 12-11-11 10:51pm - 4759 days | #12 | |
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hodayathink (0)
Active User Posts: 312 Registered: Mar 27, '09 Location: Illinois |
I just recently joined (and reviewed) a site that might interest you in The Art Of Blowjob. The main thing you might not like is that it's the same guy and the same girl in every update, but it's good content in my opinion and it updates weekly. Other than that, I kinda think that your niche (I'm not sure if it's blowjobs in general or deepthroating specifically) might actually be filled better right now by DVD releases than it is by any specific websites. There's still a few companies that put out BJ only releases (you mention Evil Angel, but Elegant Angel does a few each year, along with a few other companies that I can't think of right now). If Video-On-Demand sites ever came down to more reasonable prices ($5-10 for each DVD [or $1-2 for each scene] would make sense to me), that would probably be a good route to take. | |
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