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06-18-12  02:07pm - 4570 days Original Post - #1
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This came up as I was watching an older video from Peter Romero’s POV Porn site. It was recorded in 2004 and stars a lovely young lass in what she says is her first b/g hardcore video. That may or may not be true. The girl goes by the name Brynne, which at some point later in her career she changed to Taryn Thomas. “Brynne” scenes must be so rare that the alias isn’t listed in IAFD or Indexxx. (Though Indexxx does list “Britt” as an alias.)

Anyway… all that to say that I have been a big fan of Taryn Thomas for a while, but seeing this early scene when she was new and nervous is a complete contrast to her high-energy and often anal scenes. It’s hard to believe that the Brynne in this early scene is the same model who does some pretty intense stuff now. I wish there was more of her in this young and naďve mode.

Another similar case for me is one of the first Amber Rayne scenes I saw. (The Amber Rayne who is still active, not the blonde Amber Rain who retired in 2005.) The movie was XXX Pinups where she played a gullible young lady who was hired for a lingerie photo shoot. And this being a photo shoot in a porn movie she lets herself be talked into nudity and eventually sex. What makes this scene stand out (two things, actually) is that Amber Rayne has some very good acting skills. Seriously. Second is how well she plays up being innocent. But, as with Taryn Thomas, I was a little dismayed to realize that scenes where Ms. Rayne is playing a demure woman are few and far between. It seems there are more scenes with her inserting baseball bats in her ass than being demure. Not that there’s anything wrong with baseball bats in the ass. I’ll watch Amber Rayne do just about anything.

But maybe I’m just reading this wrong. If I had stumbled on the one mild scene that Audrey Hollander did (assuming she ever did a mild scene!) would I be fair in wishing that she wasn’t always so over-the-top? Maybe I should just accept that some models don’t do scenes with a more natural feel to them.

So do you have any models you wish would turn down the intensity once in a while?

While I’m at it, another addition to the list for me would be Tory Lane. Lauren Phoenix too. I thing that Lauren’s b/b/g scenes outnumber her b/g scenes. She’s too beautiful to be blocked from view by two hairy asses. And just to show how capricious I am with this, one model I wouldn’t put on this list (that I can think of now) is Sasha Grey. Ms. Grey certainly did some high-intensity scenes that a lot of lesser models wouldn’t do but she also did a lot of more ‘normal’ sex scenes.

This seems to have turned into more of a rant than a question, but does anyone have other models that they’d like to see in more natural sex scenes?

06-18-12  05:24pm - 4570 days #2
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I don't actually have a list because it's often not the girl per say but the kind of scene she shot. Of course some performers tend to always be intense. Tory lane, Sandra Romain are two that come to mind. Of course that could be because the type of porn they shot was laways a little on the hard side.

I can't put Amber rayne on this list because I don't think she is intense in the same way that Tory is. I just think that Amber is out to shoot the best scene possible and truly tries to get off during the scene. The only scenes I've seen of Taryn were those where she was always intense so I have no way of comparing a less intense one. She keeps talking about making a comeback but I think her idea of a porn career is no longer possible today and the number of people that want to see her is probably not that big anyway. It's not like she could comeback and do stuff that she never did because she did it all. Long live the Brown Coats.

06-18-12  07:38pm - 4570 days #3
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I think I understand the sentiment that is behind this topic post as far as: When is a pornstar's performance too exaggerated (in contrast to what their off-camera sex might be)?

Ironically, I would say that the overly "intense" performers are often acting less than the performers that would be described as overly "passive". Being a bit of a fan of behind-the-scenes footage, I've noticed that the freakier and crazy intense performers frequently have difficulty turning that behaviour off. You'll often see performers doing the classic moaning and changing through specific positions and when the director or camera man makes a comment or even something as minimally distracting as hair falling off an ear, the emotive behavior stops to such a degree that you'd think they are doing a mindless task like driving.

In the specific case of Amber Rayne, I know that her sex life off camera is actually stranger than that which is on camera. She is also an extremely high energy person complete with rapid speech and sort of bounce-off-the-walls gesticulation. She has always come across as intelligent and opinionated. She is a professional with 7 years under her belt now, so perhaps her earliest performances were more demure due to direction and nervousness - but I don't believe she is inclined toward that work. She seems to be proud to (and to use the popular phrase here) "let [her] freak flag fly" (I'm quoting pop culture, not Rayne herself). I recall she was one of the earliest and biggest proponents of pissing scenes when Kink.com tried out Pissing.com. As it turned out, that fetish wasn't as profit making as they hoped, but Rayne said she'd already engaged in piss-play at home and was quite excited to perform it on camera.

Granted I'm not in the industry, but my personal observations and theory is that the performers that are inclined to the more extreme sexual behaviour and those who provide very intense performances are more naturally inclined to toward that behavior on stage and at home. Most of the porn starlets are in the business for less than a year - they make some cash and they move on. The veterans that continue performing fetish work, I think they tend to honestly be into it. Are they performing? Sure. They are paying attention to the camera, to the lighting, to the director, et cetera. However, I think they are genuinely trying to have a good time, keep work fun, and get a bit lost into the scene. Especially in the BDSM arena, a lot of performers talk about the scenes as a great venue for emotional release - a place to get something they can't get at home and get paid for it to boot.

So most of my favorite pornstars fall into the category of intense. Frankly, I'd say my absolute favorites fall into a strange category I'd label as "Dominating Masochist" - as in, they enjoy sexually submissive positions and pain-play and are more than happy to order their partner to perform various actions in those categories. Amber Rayne has fulfilled that role many times (as well as normal Master or Slave roles too).

Sometimes I'm drawn to amateur home video porn because you tend to get a lot less acting and performers worrying about the state of their hair, but as that is less available and the quality is usually atrocious I seek the intense performers for the same reason. Marilyn Chambers, Naomi Russell, Dana DeArmond, Bobbi Starr, Marie Luv, Jayna Oso, Rebecca Lord, Lily Thai, McKenzie Lee, Veronica Avluv, Franceska Jaimes, and on and on. They all tend to really get into their scenes and push the action to a place that seems to get them off. They each have different styles, but they all seem to get a bit lost in the moment, forget about the camera and simply lose themselves to the sex between them and their partner(s). Perhaps this is my own naďve viewpoint. It is certainly just theory based on my own and all-be-it biased observation, but it seems to explain the behind-the-scenes behaviours I've witnessed. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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06-19-12  08:28am - 4569 days #4
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Looking at forums at websites the people will comment on how hot she was, but to bad she was not into it, or the orgasm seemed real face, or that was not real cum. I see these comments and I think that a star stepping it up or having maybe taking sex-acting lessons realizes it not just the pounding but making the audience believe your not a
$750.00 a movie actress waiting for it to be over, but you are enjoying the scene and fulfilling audience fantasies. Since 2007

06-19-12  10:36am - 4569 days #5
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^Is it possible that because so many of todays movies are not geared toward making the female feel comfortable that by default they aren't comfortable. I see too many movies where the guy isn't even trying to be gentle with the girl that the girls has to be really into uncomfortable sex to even pretend to enjoy it. All the others are left with a general look of pain which I suspect is because they are in fact in pain.

And don't get me started on the foot in the face shots. Yeah a lot of women really enjoy being pile driven through the soza all the while having a dirty foot in the face. Long live the Brown Coats.

06-19-12  02:46pm - 4569 days #6
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I don't actually have a list because it's often not the girl per say but the kind of scene she shot.

I can't put Amber rayne on this list because I don't think she is intense in the same way that Tory is.



I'm surprised that you're more into themes or types of scenes than the models themselves. You and I seem to have an awful lot in common when it comes to porn and for me the main driver is the model. The theme or scene usually runs a close second and I'd never say no to downloading a favourite type of scene even if I didn't know the model.

Amber Rayne's intensity and desire to give 100% certainly sets her apart from many other performers. Maybe when it comes to Amber the issue isn't so much her intensity as how she can overpower her male partner with her on-screen presence. That normally wouldn't be an issue for me as I think male performers in b/g porn should consider themselves to be furniture. So maybe it's that Amber's performances are so intense that she comes across sometimes as dominant, and that's a turn off for me. But... there are a lot of scenes where she has the high level of intensity but plays it in a submissive way. A great example is her scene on The Training of O, which, in my opinion is definitely in the top three on that site.

06-19-12  02:55pm - 4569 days #7
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


I think I understand the sentiment that is behind this topic post as far as: When is a pornstar's performance too exaggerated (in contrast to what their off-camera sex might be)?




I think you're right in noticing that I didn't ask the question that I wanted to ask, but I think the real question may actually lie in sort out dominant intensity and submissive intensity. For me, the former is bad while the latter is good. Very, very good.

And there's obviously a lot of subjectivity in how any of assess intensity, domination or submission (and not necessarily in a BDSM context). I agree that stars like Naomi Russell, Bobbi Star and Dana DeArmond all have an on-screen intensity that at least matches Amber Rayne's, but for some reason I just don't perceive them as being as dominant in many of their scenes. For Bobbi and Dana, that's just clearly the wrong perception because they can be pretty dominant, but like Amber they can put in a spectacular submissive performance too. I have a lot of Naomi's scenes and I don't recall her ever being too dominant for my tastes. Then again, I might just be hypnotized by her ass.

Your concept of "dominating masochist" might have some legs in this debate. That might actually be a way to best describe what I was trying to ask. I've heard that in the gay community there is a concept of "bottoming from the top" and this might be the same sort of thing.

06-19-12  02:58pm - 4569 days #8
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Originally Posted by pat362:


^Is it possible that because so many of todays movies are not geared toward making the female feel comfortable that by default they aren't comfortable. I see too many movies where the guy isn't even trying to be gentle with the girl that the girls has to be really into uncomfortable sex to even pretend to enjoy it. All the others are left with a general look of pain which I suspect is because they are in fact in pain.

And don't get me started on the foot in the face shots. Yeah a lot of women really enjoy being pile driven through the soza all the while having a dirty foot in the face.


And not that it needs to be said here again, but there is a huge difference between a model into masochism and submission being put through that by a skilled Dominant and just some jackassess with a camera who pay a girl to make her life miserable for a few hours. I may be in to watching submissive women in BDSM scenes, but it is still all about seeing their pleasure.

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