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07-18-12  12:09pm - 4540 days Original Post - #1
Micha (0)
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Flash vids at Naughty America

I've seen in browser viewing of video flash files for years but this is the first time I've seen a downloadable flash video

I've downloaded one and it seems to play just fine, but before I build a new wing for my video library, I thought I'd ask the Video Gods, several of which who live here, What bad things do you have to say about collecting flash files? What good things?

I've noticed the few times that I've played flash vids that they seem to run cleanly and without artifacts or hic-cups, so this may be a good thing.

The disk space seems to be in line with other formats for 720p vids.

What are your thoughts? unless life also gives you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck.

07-18-12  12:18pm - 4540 days #2
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can they be edited? If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat!

07-18-12  12:42pm - 4540 days #3
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jberry sez can they be edited?


Hmmmm Im sure they can be edited but I'm not sure the bulk of the editing suites can handle Flash.

I have an 8 year old Flash program from MacroMedia but with the improvements since they've been acquired by Adobe in the last decade, this may be equivalent to a flint and kindling to start a fusion reaction.

A very quick search shows plugins for acquiring Flash video by Premier and others, so I'm guessing that's a yes


M unless life also gives you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck.

07-18-12  03:29pm - 4540 days #4
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JBerry I read bout your avatar but didn't see it b4 it changed from a gif to a still image

It looks prurient but beyond that, What the fuck is it? unless life also gives you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck.

07-18-12  03:36pm - 4540 days #5
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Originally Posted by Micha:

It looks prurient but beyond that, What the fuck is it?


I certainly wouldn't f*** with it. "Whoever has the vagina is in charge." - Megan Fox

07-18-12  03:55pm - 4540 days #6
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haha... I don't remember. It just happened to fit the avatar parameters - I've had it for a long time and since Kahn didn't like my blinking eye, it's all I had. I'm looking through my stuff to see what I can put together that isn't so weird... or maybe will be even weirder. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat!

07-18-12  04:26pm - 4540 days #7
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Originally Posted by Micha:


I've seen in browser viewing of video flash files for years but this is the first time I've seen a downloadable flash video

I've downloaded one and it seems to play just fine, but before I build a new wing for my video library, I thought I'd ask the Video Gods, several of which who live here, What bad things do you have to say about collecting flash files? What good things?

I've noticed the few times that I've played flash vids that they seem to run cleanly and without artifacts or hic-cups, so this may be a good thing.

The disk space seems to be in line with other formats for 720p vids.

What are your thoughts?


As a long time subscriber to Naughty America, I can tell you that the Flash files are basically just MP4 files in a different "wrapper". As a matter of fact, not only could you just rename them to mp4 files and they will pretty much behave the same, they actually switched from those flash vids to MP4 files themselves about a month ago.

07-18-12  07:51pm - 4540 days #8
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hodayathink] said
they actually switched from those flash vids to MP4 files themselves about a month ago.


Not sure I follow that. Did you mean the switch was from mp4 to flash? unless life also gives you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck.

07-18-12  10:28pm - 4540 days #9
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Originally Posted by Micha:


hodayathink] said
they actually switched from those flash vids to MP4 files themselves about a month ago.


Not sure I follow that. Did you mean the switch was from mp4 to flash?


I mean that up until about a month ago, their 720p and 1080p videos were in the flv format. Now, they're both mp4 downloads.

07-19-12  01:37am - 4540 days #10
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hodayathink] rote:
I mean that up until about a month ago, their 720p and 1080p videos were in the flv format. Now, they're both mp4 downloads.


Actually I've been downloading bunches of 720p flash films today.
Most of the 1080 and 720 that I've seen are flash, though a few are mp4 and wmv, (and all videos that are smaller)

The problem with the flash vids, they crashed my puter twice today when I launched three of them. I was subsequently able to launch them, so the problem is intermittent. When it happens, a reboot is necessary which terminates all DLs that are running. The video selection seems good but if you like large still images, NA is not for you. I haven't seen any larger than 150k.
Navigation seems to be intentionally obtuse. Where the back button takes you is a crap shoot. I'll spend a month here and then bail.

Thanks hodaya for your replies unless life also gives you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck.

07-19-12  11:47am - 4539 days #11
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As you know, I am not much into video. I tend to find their technical features more entertaining than the content.

MET-ART have downloadable flash video, which they call "mp4 flash". Membership just expired and I did not download any.

Now in We Are Hairy. They have downloadable flash. I just downloaded some to compare with the mp4 video.

The proper mp4 video and the flash (f4v) video use the same codec for video (h.264) and for audio (MPEG AAC).

The noticeable difference is in the resolution and bitrate. The f4v videos have a much smaller bitrate and a lower resolution and look very much lower quality when viewed full screen.

Technically, I think f4v video is actually mp4 video but packaged so that players can seek to any point in the video without downloading all of it, useful when streaming. Once you have downloaded it, that does not give any advantage.

I would say the main disadvantage would be in the bitrate, which will result in much poorer quality in the f4v files.

If you say that the f4v and mp4 files are a similar size for the same resolution, it suggests they are using a similar bitrate for both.

You can check it with VLC player.

It is true that you can simply alter the file extension to mp4 and VLC will still play it. But VLC is very clever and does not need the extension. You can alter the extension from .f4v to .dog and VLC will still play it. Or just remove the extension completely. VLC is still happy as it can play video files with no extension at all.

It is no doubt editable but whether or not there is any free software to edit either or both of mp4 or flv, I have not checked.

youtube flash video has always been downloadable and is pretty crappy, as we know.

07-19-12  09:41pm - 4539 days #12
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Originally Posted by Micha:


hodayathink] rote:
I mean that up until about a month ago, their 720p and 1080p videos were in the flv format. Now, they're both mp4 downloads.


Actually I've been downloading bunches of 720p flash films today.
Most of the 1080 and 720 that I've seen are flash, though a few are mp4 and wmv, (and all videos that are smaller)

The problem with the flash vids, they crashed my puter twice today when I launched three of them. I was subsequently able to launch them, so the problem is intermittent. When it happens, a reboot is necessary which terminates all DLs that are running. The video selection seems good but if you like large still images, NA is not for you. I haven't seen any larger than 150k.
Navigation seems to be intentionally obtuse. Where the back button takes you is a crap shoot. I'll spend a month here and then bail.

Thanks hodaya for your replies


What do you mean by where the back button takes you is a crap shoot? I've never the browser's back button take me to anything besides the last page I looked at, and the site itself doesn't have a back button.

07-20-12  01:05am - 4539 days #13
Micha (0)
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hodayathink] wrote: What do you mean by where the back button takes you is a crap shoot? I've never the browser's back button take me to anything besides the last page I looked at, and the site itself doesn't have a back button.


In the upper left corner of the browser screen is a left facing arrow which will allow you to return to previous pages. On most websites this is what precisely what it does. On Naughty America this is usually what it does, but not always. I'll see a photo which looks interesting and I'll click the link and arrive on a new page that allows me to download a video, image, or zip file. Once this is done, I'll click the back button expecting to return to the previous page, just as I have for the last 2 to 3 decades. Alas this is not what happens. I have been surfing a lady named Kristina Rose. Her scenes are spread over four pages, each with 2 to 4 episodes. Once the vid and/or zip has begun to download, clicking the back button does not return me to the source page but to a hybrid page which includes the teaser to which I have just responded, plus several other scenes that were not on the original starting page. If she has appeared in more than one episode of a theme, Naughty Office for example, it is difficult to ascertain whether an episode is one that has already been downloaded or one that has not yet been viewed. The only way to tell them apart is comparing co-stars, but then you have to clich through to see the cast names. You just never know what you're gonna get. Kinda like a box of chocolates or shooting craps.
In a past life, I was a webmaster/mechanic, I spent a great deal of time making navigation of the sites an un-confusing experience to visitors of my sites. This doesn't seem to be a priority at NA. It seems to me that
navigation here is purposely obtuse.

I have been to more than one adult site where the back button sometimes hurled me into the far corners of the site, requiring 5 to 10 clicks to return me to where I was before.

I have a 5 button optical mouse which allows me to assign button functions.
Tapping with my thumb activates the back button so I don't have to travel twenty inches to find it. The little things add up. unless life also gives you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck. Edited on Jul 20, 2012, 01:13am

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