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| 11-07-12 09:44am - 4428 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Leaving modems on 24/7 Off Topic This is another one of the arguments/polls we've had in the past, but for convenience's (laziness') sake: will it hurt my WIFI modem if I leave it on around the clock? Thanks. | |
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| 11-07-12 11:13am - 4428 days | #2 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
No not at all, the power use is negligible really. Things to consider. 1. The Modem may take 3-5 minutes to communicate with your ISP and start up once you have turned it off. 2. There are no moving parts like harddrives etc on a modem so it does not wear out from being on. There is some theories on shutting off electronics like PC and Modems etc. In several discussion groups I have been apart of it was found that many parts made today and oversees are used sometimes with solder that is average. And does not fair well to temperature change. Hence turning off and on, would heat and lower heat and lower possible weakening the solder. Thinking back at the XBOX the notorious red ring of death, the issue was the soldered parts getting hot and eventually broke down the material and failed. Ever turn off your new TV and still hear it pop and crackle like the old ones ? That is material cooling from being expanded. I leave my PC,Router and modems running 24/7 my power supply on the PC failed when I turned it off one day to clean out the case. My guess was it was ready to go and all it needed was some temperature changes. Electronics as a rule run anywhere from 90F to 150F ( higher on pc if not cooled ) I digress electronics are made to heat up. Most are not made to heat up cool down heat up cool down. Another way to think is allot of materials are made from metal and most metals weaken after heating and cooling over time. I leave mine on and seldom have failure of any items. Since 2007 | |
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| 11-07-12 02:09pm - 4428 days | #3 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Thank you, CT. I knew you would come through!  I left the modem on last night because I was doing WIFI thingies with my new TV and was wondering if I would do it harm if I did this on a regular basis. Actually it was quite cool to the touch but I was still nervous. So, thanks again, friend. | |
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| 11-07-12 02:38pm - 4428 days | #4 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Glad to help, was funny you asked about this as mentioned was something we talked about as in the time of conserving energy there may be more harm then good in turning off items. I would say if a person runs a large setup of 1/2 dozen running PC etc then the savings may be worth the risk. But really is negligible compared to the risk of failure. One last note, if you are unplugging and plugging cables always a good idea to turn the unit off unless it is designed for hot swapping. Not needed always but a great safety precaution. Since 2007 | |
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| 11-07-12 07:32pm - 4428 days | #5 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User  Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
Yup, I agree, Energy Conservation issues aside, leaving electronics (without moving parts) running all the time is probably the best thing for them. That doesn't mean you shouldn't restart them upon occasion. For computers running Windows it is crucial to restart them regularly (once a day is a good idea) as the OS is designed to a lot of file system cleanup during shutdown. However, restarts can help any electronic item that uses even basic software - I restart my cable modem about every 1 to 2 months, usually when I notice any sort of strange behavior in the download/upload speeds. Amusingly, it is usually my router, not the modem, that is the culprit, but both benefit reboots from time-to-time. A reboot doesn't cool down the system significantly, so you aren't endangering the electronics due to expansion/contraction. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 11-08-12 01:45pm - 4427 days | #6 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Thanks, Toadsith .. you too reassured me re. my Modem if you only restart it every 1 to 2 months. So, ON and keeping it on, it is. You are right when it comes to the computer itself, if various updates to the system don't make me restart I still do it on a daily basis for the reasons you mentioned. My computer always seems to run a bit faster after a restart. | |
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| 11-08-12 04:23pm - 4427 days | #7 | |
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Claypaws (0)
Suspended Webmaster Posts: 144 Registered: May 16, '12 Location: UK |
Here in the UK, it is a bad idea to turn your modem/router off. In a manner too complex to go into in this off-topic thread, the telecoms supplier who supplies the ISP with the internet infrastructure determines your download speed based partly on continuous uptime. If you disconnect or turn off your router frequently, your download speed will be capped. It would take more than 10000 charas to do the detail and I shall not bore you with it. I leave my router on 24/7 and only reboot it if there is a problem. This tends to occur about once per month. | |
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| 11-08-12 05:58pm - 4427 days | #8 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
There may be an underlying problem if one has to reboot a modem. I was reading some responses and that has me asking why? All modems made today are flash type memory very similar to what your smart phones and flash drives have. Restarting should not accomplish anything. What may be happening is your TCP/IP settings on your pc not your modem are refreshing cache if you reboot your pc but starting a modem only reconnects what was already connected.. The modem and router restarts are usually needed only, I stress only when IP issues, have arrived or wireless network has failed to work and in rare instances needs a restart. I can not with in my scope of knowledge see any reason to warm boot a modem, or cold boot for that reason. Like to hear some others input on why they are rebooting modems ? CT Since 2007 | |
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| 11-08-12 06:30pm - 4427 days | #9 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
^I was talking about rebooting my computer and not the modem itself in my latest answer, CT. I do not see anyone advocate rebooting a modem. The consensus seems to be: leave it on! I only did it up to now because I thought that 24/7 might somehow harm the modem. Glad it won't! So, thanks again. It's good to know people who know something about these things. I am tech illiterate.  | |
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| 11-08-12 09:26pm - 4427 days | #10 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
Not being an expert on networking nor for that matter on how cable companies handle their own network, but my understanding is this: Rebooting the modem is not done so much to adjust anything specific within the modem, for as you mentioned, the software in the modem isn't wildly sophisticated and it is also using flash memory, not RAM (or god forbid a traditional platter hard drive), though I must say I've seen great changes in performance rebooting my router - but it is 10+ years old so it may indeed have serious problems. At any rate, the impression I get is that rebooting your modem is instead causing the cable company to effectively reboot its connection with you, so you are in a sense forcing a reboot on their end, fixing whatever problems that crept up within their side of the network. I personally have seen dramatic performance boosts after a cable modem warm reboot and similarly with DSL modem warm reboot. Also, I have been told to reboot the modem by hand by technicians from the cable company when problems arouse - despite their ability to do so remotely, so a complete power down (which they cannot do remotely) presumably has some advantage, unless it is the typical superstitious behavior that creeps into nearly every computer user at some level. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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