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| 01-14-14 06:01pm - 3995 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
No, not that closet. But John Travolta and Tom Cruise send their greetings.  A trait I have is that I like to collect first on-screen anal scenes or rare anal scenes from models who don’t do a lot of anal. (Don’t worry; I also try to collect every anal scene from the anal queens too.) I realized something about the kind of anal I prefer when I watched some firsts over the past while. Tanner Mayes and Lexi Belle are examples of this, and in seeing the trailer for Maddy, the pending DVD with Maddy O’Reilly’s first and second anal scenes, these will be the same, and I’m disappointed. I’ve discovered in watching these that there is something dissatisfying about them. I didn’t know what it was since I was living the dream seeing some of my all-time favorite stars perform my favorite on-screen sex act. What could be the problem? Here were these hot models taking long, balls-deep, slamming rough poundings. And therein lies the problem for me. I don’t really like long, balls-deep, slamming rough poundings. I remember when anal wasn’t so common and back then it was a spicy add on to a primarily vaginal scene. Yes, I can understand that when it is a model’s first on-screen anal the sex has to be more focussed on that act, but why does it need to be so brutal? What would have made me happier is if these firsts were done more in the style of X-art or EroticaX. With passion rather than brute force. Maybe some of these rare anal models would have done or would do more anal if they didn’t have to endure such a relentless pounding. Call me old-fashioned, but a brutal anal pounding lasting 30+ minutes just doesn’t seem natural. (And I’m judging this subjectively by guessing I wouldn’t last that long if given the opportunity.) Don’t get me wrong, but it seems like there is more hard anal these days than softer stuff. Yes, I know for anti-anal people there probably isn’t much of a difference, but there is. Part of the fault is mine since I regularly subscribe to sites like Evil Angel where some directors have turned hard, relentless anal into an art form, but I do wish that there were more natural anal scenes out there. Does anyone else share this opinion or think I’m nuts? Does anyone have any site recommendations where anal is common but doesn’t seem to be some sort of a punishment for the model? | |
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| 01-14-14 06:31pm - 3995 days | #2 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User  Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Looks like I'm your shadow at the moment because I agree with you again. For me some of the best anal photos were from Anal Teen Angels 1-3 years ago. TeenCoreClub also did great vids and pics. These two may be closest to what you are describing, although I liked First Anal Quest too. On my Anal Teen Angels review I said "the look on the girls' faces. Hard to explain, but for me it's the perfect balance of innocence, professionalism, and eroticism," and "the photographer captures a complete look of innocence, and enjoyment, while at the same time mass producing professional material, from a professional model who is having anal sex. The model looks innocent and enjoying it enough for it not to look as though she is being exploited." That sounds pretty much like what you're describing. TeenCoreClub is harder and I hate their contempt for customers but they did do great stuff too. | |
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| 01-14-14 06:49pm - 3995 days | #3 | ||
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Are you trying to say you're really a Scientologist? 
I'm sure there are some PU'ers who don't think any anal is natural, much less a turn-on. And maybe they think you are nuts and that anal is a always punishment (and not in a fun, consensual way). I'm not totally sure what you mean though by "natural," if something besides all the scenes and sites that are turning anal into to some sort of bizarre sexual stunt act. There's the hotkinkyjo/Piercedaspid.com/DirtyGardenGirl.com take on anal...which is extreme, to say the least, and hardly what I think the majority of even us dedicated perverts would label natural ("Hey, don't put your fist in there!"  ). And EverythingButt, though highly consensual, comes off as exasperatingly kinky, with the intended "hardness" of the scenes becoming annoying because you're being reminded of it every few seconds with the yelling, swearing, name-calling, and overall abuse on display. Yet, those are hour-plus scenes with gaping, fisting, and multiple performers, so I think it's more natural for them but not what you're looking for. PU's anal category is not too small, though hardcore offers more options, just not exclusively anal-oriented. I think the problem is if a scene is anal, or at least boy-girl anal, it's presumed to be of the pounding variety--nothing softer will be accepted!  Even something like Seymore Butts, while having a reputation as not being abusive or misogynist, is hardly gentle buttfucking. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | ||
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| 01-14-14 07:14pm - 3995 days | #4 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
And to add my own personal tastes in anal porn, I actually prefer the kind that is rough and dirty but not abusingly so. I admitted this a difficult preference to achieve because so much of porn treats it as a "hard" act, in that mutual pleasure isn't necessarily the gist of the scene (even in those intense girl-girl-girl Epicurean EverythingButt epics). Too many scenes resort to what you don't like; the brutal ass pounding. Hey, there is already a nearly endless list of R-rated fare that more than fulfills the need to watch a violent patriarchal character who can only get his rocks off by choking and pushing around every women within reach. I neither need nor want to see it sexualized and drawn out for my porn as well. The porn industry seems to treat our cultural taboo of anal sex as license to make it increasingly abusive. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 01-14-14 09:57pm - 3994 days | #5 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
I won't go into my once negative approach concerning the subject of "anal" solely in respect for those here whom I've grown, at least on my end, (pun clearly intended) quite close to as a fellow member, and among them whose fetish I've now come to have an enlightened and deepened respect. Having been a member here for my reach of time, I feel I've been taught, inadvertently, by the anal pros, and enough have rubbed off wherein I see things a lot clearly now. But this reply actually has to do with accolades for Pat, Turboshaft and the squirrel's contribution to this thread. Their comments on this matter is nothing less than extraordinary. And the very best I can say on behalf of this subject is to echo their sentiments..... from which a deserving high-five is certainly in order. Edited on Jan 15, 2014, 04:36pm | |
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| 01-15-14 08:58am - 3994 days | #6 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Seems that anal has or is evolving the same way blowjobs have. Blowjobs were once sucking and poping and even some deep throating and maybe a tad aggression on the part of the women. In many cases its looks now almost abusive and not fun for her at all. Anal seems that way too, it once seemed kinda fun for the lady, now often seems like they are trying to rip her a new one literally. Guess I am old school. because why you can have fun fucking and sucking and doing it doggy style. And even a little rough play. It should not appear like r@pe. Ok there I said it. Sometimes it looks like paid r@pe. There seems that a human sensuousness gets lost when you are plowing her into the ground and trying to ignore she is even there. Might as well just give these guys a Fleshlight and let them pound away, its about as much emotion left. I'm Cybertoad, and I approve this message. Since 2007 Edited by Staff on Jan 15, 2014, 09:14am (Khan: edited prohibited word) | |
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| 01-15-14 01:25pm - 3994 days | #7 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I don't think it comes as a surprise to any member of PU that I'm a fan of anal sex. The only fetish that I'm a bigger fan of is lesbian porn so if there is lesbian sex and anal then I'm super happy. Being a person who grew up watching porn made in the 70's and 80's then it's no wonder that I prefer a more natural type of sex scene. Now the word natural doesn't exactly mean the same thing when used in conjecture with porn so what I mean is that the scene should be more like a typical b/g or g/g scene where there is non-sexual interaction between the performers, dialogue, foreplay with clothes on, foreplay naked, kissing through much of the scene, oral sex from both parties, vaginal penetration which then switches to anal penetration but where it's slow and easy and not somebody trying to see how hard and fast he can stick his dick in that hole. I don't mind if there are multiple positions but none should include the women upside down with her ass in the air. The finish should be a cum shot inside or near the penetration point but definitely not in the face or where it involves the guy moving to achieve his target. I can understand where rearadmiral is coming from because companies tend to pay a lot for a first of anything. This is especially true if the performer is very popular so they tend to the concentrate solely on that first thing while disregarding what makese that performer so popular. I was also thrilled when Lexi did her first anal because here was the Holy Grail of non-anal performer finally doing one and it was good. It was really good considering that she was a reluctant anal girl for such a long time but where you could have had an amazing scene that included everything I wrote above. What you got was a typical gonzo porn scene with almost 5 minutes of Lexi playing with toys in her ass while wearing a skimpy bikini that didn't stay on for long and where the camera spends little time looking at her face because it's zooming in on her ass. Then it transitions to her already naked and James Deen wearing clothes. What follows is about 5 minutes of what passes for foreplay. We see some kissing(somewhat rare in gonzo), breast play, cunnilingus and an emphasis on anal play. Of course there has to be anal play. The camera is always down there. Did I mention that James is still wearing clothes in that part of the scene? Then he drops his pants and he's fucking her vagina in hyper piston mode. We are, of course, still getting anal play. This is after all her first on screen anal. Seven minutes in and it's time for a BJ. I'm not sure why this was done here since he clearly already has a hard on but fuck it. It's gonzo and you have to have a BJ. We get about a minute and a half of that before we move to some anal penetration with toys that last also about a minute and a half. Now it's back to vaginal penetration but with the added toy in the ass. You get a few minutes of that while they try a couple of positions. Then at the 22 minute mark it's time to remove the toy from the ass and make her suck on it. We now begin anal penetration in the spoon position. It's nice a gentle at first but the gentle penetration lasts about two minutes before he switches to hyper piston mode. What follows is anal penetration from spoon position to a couple of various RCG position that's reverse cow girl for those un-enlightened in porn lingo. At about the 28 minute mark we move to missionary anal. They edited the scene here(maybe Lexi needed a break) because one moment they are shooting in RCG and the next she is on her back and he's going in. There' is 2 minutes of that before it's transitions to doggie style. I'd like to point out that the move from missionary to doggie style is done while James is still in Lexi's ass and I don't think she enjoyed that very much but like a good trooper she didn't make a scene. Mind you after getting her ass rammed so hard that maybe she was a little numb. We then get some more editing when the scene switches from doggie anal to CG anal (cow girl). We get about 6 minutes worth of CG anal and then we get some oral sex and the final transition is back to missionary and I think the only reason this was done was so that James could ejaculate all over her chest and face without actually moving. P.S: Sorry for my very long post. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 01-15-14 02:47pm - 3994 days | #8 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I'm afraid I pretty much agree with this; take out any and all hints of romanticism, if there ever was any to begin with, add in more choking, gagging, and spitting, and then make sure the male is always the aggressor. The whole spectacle ends up looking less than consensual, at least in a narrative sense. Think about it: how many scenes are there with the basic plot being that the main "girl" is "forced" into the sex or "giving" it only in exchange for something else? In the real world, at least if it were even reported, this would be interpreted as blackmail or [that "prohibited word"]. I'd like to think that the majority of viewers aren't into porn because their fantasy is more violent than it is sexual (using forced sex as a power play rather than anything having to do with giving and receiving pleasure), but I look at much of porn, particularly the now mainstreamed ass-pounding variety, and I start to have my doubts. There's a 2009 book called Empire of Illusion by Chris Hedges about what he sees as the dumbing down of American culture and the use of entertainment to escape the real world. The second chapter is about American porn and how he sees it getting increasingly aggressive and misogynist. He even compares this to the sexualized nature of the abuse and torture seen in the Abu Ghraib prison scandal. Personally, I think this is a stretch because there is a clear line between the reality of our foreign policy fuck-ups and the twisted fantasies of our porn. And it seems that too often we prefer to focus on the symptoms of the latter (hardcore porn that's easier to find than ever before, the Culture War) without caring much about the causes of the former (contempt for human rights, extreme nationalism, our real wars). But I do think we have a perverted culture and numerous unhealthy representations of sex. I don't mean solely in the pornographic sense, but in that we still too often present sex or sexual desire as something that is inherently perverted and wrong. That it's not part of normal, healthy lives and relationships but a crass tool to sell products and their accompanying lifestyles. And so much of it is not discussed, at least in a serious way, that the media mostly handles it immaturely and inaccurately. So, if sex is a taboo, why not depict it in even more taboo forms? And if anal sex is the ultimate taboo, why not take that to its logical extreme and depict it as degrading and aggressively as possible? Yes, we are told the female may secretly "want it," so why not choke, slap, and spit on her for such a desire? And if she doesn't then why make anything else in the scene about what she may want? The biggest problem may be that the female performers are such good actors that much of the male audience is jaded from thinking that all this sexual overkill is what women are really into. (Sorry for the long rant/post, but my  tend to prattle on.) "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 01-16-14 10:46am - 3993 days | #9 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Nicely Said .... Since 2007 | |
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| 01-16-14 07:01pm - 3993 days | #10 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Thanks for the feedback, and always interesting comments, at least you realise it is just a matter of taste and preference. There's no good porn or bad porn, it's merely what you prefer. Personally I hate the usual sort of (what I would consider) abuse involving verbals, hair pulling, spitting, slapping, and all that but that doesn't make my taste any better or worse, it's just age. I think older fans were brought up with softer stuff so slightly prefer that, to some of the abuse you see nowadays. It's not better porn though, it's just taste. For some, abusive porn is good porn, for others abusive porn is anything that they don't like personally. I suppose hair pulling and slapping may not be considered abusive by some people, and hardcore may be considered abusive by some, although words like "whore" and "bitch" probably are abusive, although perhaps it depends on your point of view. Basically porn is whatever you get off on. Edited on Jan 16, 2014, 07:14pm | |
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| 01-18-14 07:01am - 3991 days | #11 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
I think age has allot to do with it maybe, my opinion. I grew up where guys even in the bedroom were respectful of women even if it was down and dirty. There was just something of a line we did not cross. I have seen the younger crowd of porn users in the world find this as normal for them see abuse as cool. Same way video games once were pong and pac man are now Grand Theft Auto were death us just a click away in this fantasy and all of Holly Wood glorifies death and guns in their fantasies. I think if you were raised to hold doors open for women and such, hard to make the jump to treating them like meat. What is very very very odd its the liberal view of women is to be equal and respected . Yet some kinds of porn does anything but respect women to be seen as equal. Since 2007 | |
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| 01-18-14 09:05am - 3991 days | #12 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
^I completely agree with you that age for the most part has a lot to do with it. I'm disheartened by the post I read on other forums because so many (I assume young) guys use what they see in modern porn as reference on the proper way to treat women. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 01-19-14 08:07am - 3990 days | #13 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Eeek , now that would be scary. But if we truly look at the world society there is a lean towards tolerance in violence in our lives. I mean Movies and Video Game, need one say more. Yes they are fantasy like porn is. But if a person is, how do you say few brick short of a wall bad things occur. Movies often portray a woman not wanting the sexual advancements of the man. But once he begins to tear her clothes off she becomes orgasmic and falls under his spell is pure bullshit. In reality a women would kick you in the balls, spray you with mace, and if she was packin heat your a dead man. I think our youth see this as a way to get acceptance from women is to force your acts and they will love it. Is in 99% of all cases not true. I am sure there is the BDSM lady who wants that but thats rare. Since 2007 | |
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