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12-28-08  06:54pm - 5837 days #2
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PS I have to add that I think most porn photographers are as dumb as dogshit.

12-28-08  06:51pm - 5837 days #12
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I would like to add that the fluctuations in international currency complicate things. I live in Australia, and I am most annoyed that you have to pay in US dollars for membership. OK when our dolar is up (Like it was a few months ago). But now our dollar is down, I have to pay these local sites more. Bloody annoying!

12-28-08  06:47pm - 5837 days #7
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I TOTALLY AGREE, SITSAT. I've just submitted a lengthy comment re photography (as opposed to video). I've come to the conclusion that most of the people who run porn sites are as dumb as dogshit.

12-28-08  06:42pm - 5837 days Original Post - #1
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Good and Bad Photography

I tend to prefer photography to vids. And my favourite niche is the simple undressing scene. I also enjoy girl/girl as well as HC. I want to submit my thoughts on what works and what doesn't. I accept that we are all different, and have varied tastes, but it seems to me that many porn photgraphers regularly make such shocking blunders - things which are not rocket science, but which should be pretty obvious. I'm not talking about such things as subtle lighting or clever make-up, but things like posture, setting, etc. I'll say my bit, and these things will become clearer.

First, a solo shoot is fundamentally different to a sex scene shoot (either BG or GG). Mostly, In the solo shoot, the model is relating to the viewer - you! The exception would be a toy / masterbation shoot, in which she is relating to herself. In that case, she should seem to be oblivious to the viewer (cameraman, viewer, etc), as she creates the impression that she absorbed in pleasuring herself (the occasional look at the camera and knowing smile doesn't go astray, however)

In a sex scene, the two participants should be totally absorbed in each other. That's what annoys be about these 'posed' so-called lesbian scenes, where the two models not only look at the camera and smile, but the pussy licking is posed and staged, and isn;t really happenng. Why some sites persist with this is beyond me. If the girls can't do a real scene, then why do they offer for a fake one? And when the girls are looking at the camera, instead of being absorbed in each other, this can only come from bad directing from behind the lense.

In BG shoots, most of the scenes make 2 continual blunders.
1. The guy usually jacks his crank, instead of the girl. To me, is it far better erotic value if the girl does the jacking off.
2. The continual ommision of snapping the moment the guy cums. Too often, we see 10-15 shots of the guy pumping his pud (looking like hard work), then the next shot is 'post-cum' - the magic moment has been missed. For me, the moment is seeing the load halfway to her face, or just landing. Why it's so hard to snap this moment I don't know - David Lace could do it, 1by day does it (a really excellent site!), so I don't know why other sites can't do it.

But now to the meat of my discussion: solo shoots. I'll do this in headings with remarks, to make reading easier.

TYPE OF MODEL: I prefer amateurs, because there is a far greater sense of fresh innocence with them. Often it is their first time, and the sense of nervous excitement on their smiles as they undress has great erotic appeal.

CLOTHING: Should have some sense of colour, style and appeal. T shirt and jeans are OK, if they follow this rule. Same with underwear / lingerie. Should be sexy and colour-co-ordinated. Nothing is a bigger turn-off that a model in a daggy T shirt, with underwear which looks like it came out of great grandmothers (or great-grandather's!) wardrobe. Big heavy bras are also a turn-off, as are hob-nailed boots, heavy socks, etc. An exception might be a stunning model who has built a series of sets, and where the appeal is to see her get out of a daggy outfit to reveal her lovelynakedness.

SEQUENCE OF UNDRESSING: should follow a normal pattern, a point lost on many photographers. How often do we see the model leave her shoes on, or a full pussy spread at about pic 5? The erotic tease and build-up has been ruined when this happens. The undressing also needs to be done in a way which is sensual and erotic. The key moments are also when she is removing items of clothing -especially knickers. Yet so many photograhers simply jump past this.
Posture is also important with the overall erotic effect

POSTURE: One of the biggest blunders by photographers is their poor attention to posture. Good posture is the key to genuine erotic photography. The best posture for an undressing scene is standing up, or variations of this (eg bending half-forward to remove knickers, and she looks at the camera and smiles). Also, slight bending forward allows the boobs to hand down. When a model is standing, or moving about on her feet, you can see her full naked glory and her natural stance. Another great stance is having the model on all fours, as it brings the but in prominence, and allows the boobs to hang free. Also, posture works best if it is slightly uneven - eg one leg in front of the other, hips, tilted, etc. On all fours, a shot from behind, 45 degrees, with the cloers leg slightly forward is a great angle. One reason I hate stiletoes is that they bugger up a girl's posture. Stiletoes should only be used is a secretary-type shoot, and even then they should be ditched quickly in the undressing. Photography angles also play a role here.

PHOTOGRAPHY ANGLES: An aspect which many porn photographers seem unaware of. The most common blunders are front-on shots, shots from above the model; that sort of thing. Far greater erotic effect is achieved shooting at a 45 degree angle (from both in front and behind). Even with close-ups (zeroing in on pussy, etc), the angled shot works far better.

SHAVED / NATURAL This is secondary to photography as such. Personally, I prefer the natural look, because pubic hair tells me that this is an adult, sexual being. But I also don;t like wild jungles - I prefer some trim. Fully shaved pussies look to me like little girls pussies. But that's my preference, and not the core of my argument. The REAL core of my argument is that many photographers have no idea of how to photograph a pussy, shaved or not. The cameraperson needs to take into account how much stuff the model has - pubic hair, size of labia (outer & inner), etc. Once again, the angled shot usually works far better. Having the labia together (with legs together - what is now called 'cameltoe' - a look I really like, but the guy who thought up that ugly name should be roasting in hell) make for good erotic effect. The worst type of pussy shot is as follows: shaved pussy, non-existent labia (not the photographers fault), but then the dipstick cameraperson snaps her from straight in front, butt arched back, and leg apart, so the pussy lips have disappeared. Net result: pussy looks like a naked mole-rat.

CLOSE-UPS - Best placed after full undressing has occured. Should be used sparingly through the latter part of he shoot. 2-3 three close-ups with model in a particular pose, then next pose, etc. I HATE runs of 10-15 closeups, because in that time you loose contact with the model's face, and hence her persona.

LENGTH OF SHOOT: An undressing shoot should be no longer than 100 pics (150 pics for a sex scene). Anything longer than this is too long, unless it's fucken' good (whot most of them are not) My rule is that a shoot is better to be a bit shorter, and leave the viewer wanting more, instead of too long, and leaving the viewer wondering when it will end.

OUTDOOR SETTINGS Setting should be private. I'm not a fan of public 'flashing' shoots, as I want to see the model freed up from any inhibitary settings, so she is free to undress totally. Outdoor shoots can be really good, but they should be in a secluded setting (forest, garden, etc). Care needs to be taken with the light - uneven light can fuck up a shoot. A sunny day sounds good, but it takes a really good photographer to capture this, without it being ruined by glare or uneven light. One site which does really good outdoor shoots is Girls Out West.

INDOOR SETTINGS: Decor should be attractive, open, light and spacious. Yet in so many shoots we see dingy decor, dirty carpet, and mess eveywhere. I'm not advocating top-class Hilton-style settings, but clean, bright and attractive surroundings give a shoot a real lift. The model also needs to be given space to move around, and the photpgrapher also needs space to snap model within the whole setting. Shooting in a corner is a no-no - it reduces shooting to one angle.

POSES: Similar to posture. Needs to be some common sense here. Fully clothed poses (eg head back, one arm at the back of head, etc) can signal the model is about to do something outrageous. One of the most annoying poses is the finger-in-the-mouth. Makes the model look like a bogon.

These are some of my thoughts. I know some will thing I'm unreasonably fussy, but I don't believe so. I believe the things I've talked about are not rocket science, but should be bloody obvious, even allowing for variations of taste.

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