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| 04-26-15 03:52pm - 3527 days | #7 | |
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diip (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 16 Registered: Jun 13, '13 |
Khan, thank you for clarification. LPee23, probably, this post contains an answer to your question. Dear Denner, your wild guess rocks! These (I am referring to fm site too) sites were not updated for few years. I even have dozen unpublished updates for them... A night before sites were moved to another company all my contact lists, accounts incl. backups were deleted behind my back. 7 years of my life were deleted. However, I do not want to discuss things or make the details of that shitty story public. I survived it. But I tried to find people with whom I talked. That's all. - | |
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| 04-25-15 03:42pm - 3528 days | #4 | |
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diip (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 16 Registered: Jun 13, '13 |
Dear LPee23, probably these sites are still listed here in Glamour Models niche, but I do not want to mention their names... There is no PM function here, so I cannot reply you. Feel free to use the email address from the first post to re-ask your question. - | |
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| 04-25-15 11:59am - 3529 days | #2 | |
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diip (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 16 Registered: Jun 13, '13 |
Zero mail from you guys. It's weird. But true. I still remember your nicknames... But it seems that the time carefully erases details. I feel myself abandoned after one year of hoping to get a message from you. Today, the idea of getting my contact list back looks strange even to me. I realized that I was just characters on your screens, and our conversations probably were valuable for me only. Sorry, I just wanted to get some of my glad memories back. And anyway, I am sincerely thankful to you for inspiration. It's time to be heartless. Thanks for the lesson.  - | |
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| 03-29-14 03:44pm - 3920 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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diip (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 16 Registered: Jun 13, '13 |
We never meet on PU. There is no option to send a PM to you. We communicated via email while I did support for some paysites before. My whole contact list was lost due to some sad circumstances. And this is a chance to get in touch with you. I am asking you to whitelist and write me to the following address: diip@techemail.com I'll send you a message in return with detailed explanations of what former projects I am referring to and certainly who am I. I hope to get in touch with you soon. Thanks. - | |
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| 03-29-14 01:47pm - 3921 days | #24 | |
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diip (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 16 Registered: Jun 13, '13 |
1. Win 7 2. FF 3.6 3. Chromium 30.x 4. No plans to update any  - | |
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| 01-04-14 02:25am - 4005 days | #8 | |
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diip (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 16 Registered: Jun 13, '13 |
Probably, the best: http://www.faststone.org/FSViewerDetail.htm - | |
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| 08-02-13 03:40pm - 4159 days | #29 | |
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diip (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 16 Registered: Jun 13, '13 |
I am very sorry. I know, that my writing is far from perfect. Here is a brief of what was said before: - Billing prefers big amount of transactions; - Billing offers different tools and marketing schemas; - Site is using these schemas [blindly]; - Every new site is interested in getting new customers. And my long emotional explanation of reasons why... they are using "rebills" without malice. In the same time I avoided to talk about deliberate scam. Later, I came up with a solution of how regular "rebill" schema could be improved to become more customer friendly. That's all. @graymane, oh... and let me know whether you accept a gift from me or not. - | |
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| 08-02-13 09:41am - 4160 days | #27 | |
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diip (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 16 Registered: Jun 13, '13 |
I think that I came up with a solution about recurring billing. Lets assume that the rebilling service itself is not bad, and the negative factor for the customer is that his card could be billed because of "forgetfulness". This way, we eliminating the knowingly unfair and manipulative variants of misuse of this service. So it is not very hard to implement something like this algo: (action) customer subscribed to the site but never login or login once or there was no real activity detected. (effect) unconditional refund at the end of the paid period, because it was probably CC fraud. I have to say that this feature is already implemented in many systems [its was done to avoid chargeback penalties]. (action) customer subscribed to the site, and using it in a normal way. (effect) system ask him a permission to bill his card for the next period. No positive answer means no rebill. (action) customer subscribed to the site, and using it in a normal way, but did not login for the latest period... (effect) See previous... No positive answer means no rebill. - | |
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| 08-02-13 06:06am - 4160 days | #26 | |
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diip (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 16 Registered: Jun 13, '13 |
I infinitely appreciate so warm welcome. My sporadically reading of porn users inspired me in the past to start my creation. I was ashamed about the situation (I am talking here not about the whole industry, I am talking about the local company). It was always something close to HYIP, but never to make something stable and perfect. And I already told you that there was not so much respect between models, cameramen, developers, partners and customers. They were all replaceable parts of strange money making machine; fake [smile] was one of the "industry standard" here. While reading user reviews I saw that some people are concentrating on amount and quality of the content, some on the price or discounts, there were many words about that people just do not want to be deceived, but as developer I was happy with "well designed, easy to use". Yes, I was genuinely happy when someone noticed my visible part of the work. So, this board is helpful and valuable for me for a long period of time. And thank you for your wishes, I am taking them seriously. While working on my project I met people and we had long chatting about the concept. Once I've got a letter with the composed text for my project. I post it on my about[.me] page, and next day I've got another letter with thanks. The author could not believe his eyes, as the text was published. But why not if I liked his writings, the essential of our previous conversations? My project was launched. It is not perfect and some of "user" functions were cut or in development or even still on the paper. I still need to optimize some internal processes, etc. From one side I extremely need audience, my core users (I have zero advertisement budget, no affiliate program, no sales page, so it could not be introduced here). At this stage all possible income is going to be invested in new lenses, future updates and developments. I was thinking about monetization. And that is why I was re-researching existing methods and tools. I prefer honest and kindly relationships. And I end up that if people like the site, they will support it. I do not want any type of "forgotten" money, I want money that people invest in my project consciously and hope with love. Eventually, I do not want to drive "business" because of the "business". From other side big work was already done, and this is just the beginning. Probably, I have to contact pornusers administration with the proposal to run some sort of the contest here, and offering membership to my site as a gift for the winners. But I am not sure that this idea is good, because my site is more likely just about naked girls (not porn), and I have not so much sets to offer. It is not ready for the review, because the project is young. Most prefer to spectate but not participate. I am honest to myself, people will review what they see and not what I am saying about future plans. And here is a dilemma. I need some sort of kickstart to make the wheels spin faster. It seems impossible without some aggressive marketing. And at this point many of us... are finding affiliate marketing and "rebills" (based on "forgetfulness") pretty nice solution. There is no other more effective way to spread the stuff around the world. Many good and authentic sites were closed just because of lack of the members or lack of their activity  The main problem that people who create, could not promote themselves, because they are very self-critical, and pay all their time to creation, they are concentrating on improving but not on ostentation. That is also why many creative people do not heed [or accept] the critics... it naturally hurts them.PS @graymane, I just read other latest topics on the board... and they made me speechless. I am wishing you to recover. I am holding my fists about you from now. And I realize that PU is a real home for you, and your warm welcome message to your home makes deep sense for me. And if you have nothing against just photosets of girls, I would be happy if you take a gift from me. - Edited on Aug 02, 2013, 06:12am | |
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| 08-01-13 02:47pm - 4161 days | #24 | |
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diip (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 16 Registered: Jun 13, '13 |
I just re-read my writings, and I am not sure now that my position is visible enough. So, as a dev guy, I am tolerant to the rebill and any other tool itself. But as a "site owner" I prefer to create a trustworthy relationships with the customer, because ultimately my project could progress just only with the mutual support of the customer. And people could be patient, could be friendly, could forgive mistakes (if they are sure that I am working and making all possible to solve them). I do not want to make "new sales" forever, I prefer to build intelligent community around the project, and allow members to participate. - | |
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| 08-01-13 02:19pm - 4161 days | #23 | |
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diip (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 16 Registered: Jun 13, '13 |
Dear Graymane, As a developer with wide experience I could not be for or against the tools, but I am against their thoughtless or intentionally wrong usage. I am also trying to sort out the "problem", because very often "mistakes" are cumulative. And I just trying to show, that not only paysite is "guilty" solely. And as you can see many companies are using the same tools: - because the competitor does (blind copy paste of the business model); - because it is known industry standard; - because there is no alternative. Regulator business is: - offer some virtual money instead of real money; - offer something real special; - suppress the competitors; - find MORE customers [banks] and keep existing. Banking business is: - offer some standard and needed services; - offer something real special [e.g. fees]; - suppress the competitors; - find MORE customers [paysites] and keep existing. Paysite business is: - offer something [special]; - suppress the competitors; - find MORE customers and keep existing. Customer business is: - spend money; - generate MORE money [and try to save existing]; I tried to keep this list very simple, in order to highlight just only one aspect. So again, billing company is just another customer of regulator, paysite is just another customer of billing, and final user is a customer of the paysite. And here, everyone shifts all penalties and risks to own customer. Now, it is time to say, that you are paying your money directly to billing and in real-time... (BUT only if everything is okay your money [and money from other customers as well] are going to be available to the paysite at the end of the period, say once a week)... Please, think about complicated billing system, where you have to pay (e.g.): fixed $0.5 + 1.5% per each transaction. Do you see now who likes the "rebills" too? === I developed few known websites in the past, and later was asked to become a webmaster of some of them. I also did the customer support and was known to reply for every single email (there were not so much correspondence). I discovered that generally people were shocked because of the fact of getting the prompt and hope helpful reply. Even pretty rude emails were not ignored; as a result may be the most messaged me back with apologies and gratitude. I told people whether they could expect an awaited update during the current subscription period. How to fix some software or hardware problems. Some people send me their artworks. Once, I had got an email, where the customer asked me to unsubscribe him from the site, because he was fired an need to spare his money for a while (I checked his stats, he was a member for more than 3 years). I back to him with two statements: that we will never bill his credit card anymore, and second, that he is our valued member with lifetime membership granted. Later he told me that he found the better job, and already re-subscribed to the site. Sure, there were few crafty guys. But customer support was something like bonus for me. Later I understand that inside our company I am only the one who is thinking about the customers, about the audience. Company thought about cheaper content, more affiliates, more sales. I also talked to people from other companies, and some of them were saying that they even do not bother to check their mailboxes, because they are happy with sales... I felt myself cheated. If you are creative person, an artist, the highest honor for you is a full house and ovations [FEEDBACK!!!]. And money is always the helper to go forward and to create, to make your viewer happy. But if it is just a business, it is all around the making money only. That's why I escaped that business. I am making my own project. Even launched it already (sure, it is not as great as it should be). BUT I have to say that getting very first and patient customers in natural way is may be the hardest thing. And I am understanding how "rebills" could be helpful. One of the big reason -- "Rebills" is a GREAT tool for attracting affiliates! Do you know how affiliate model works?.. - | |
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| 07-30-13 04:13pm - 4162 days | #19 | |
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diip (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 16 Registered: Jun 13, '13 |
Let me throw in my two cents... Just look at clean and simplified schema: - Customer and his bank (aka card holder); - Regulator (aka Visa, MasterCard, etc); - Billing company, processing (e.g. CCBill, Verotel); - Company, checkout (aka pay[porn]site). 1) Billing company is offering different processing options to paysite owner, generally based on monthly transaction count or on monthly turnover. As more transaction count (or turnover) as less processing fee. Billing company is also offering different cross-sales and rebill tools, and be sure, that that tools were insistently advertised to the paysite owner. And at this step it is really forbidden to think that someone could forget about his wallet. Fees: - Montly from "free" to $xxxx; - Per each transaction from "free" or few bucks up to 15%; - security hold per each transaction from zero to 10%. Anyway, billing company takes 10% (in average) from each transaction. 2) Naturally, the paysite owner is not thinking about the customer who could forget to unsubscribe, he is thinking about the customer who could forget to re-subscribe... Just because it is not very easy (and even too expensive) to get new legit customer. And he is afraid that signup process could be boring, that is why the rebilling feature looks as a quite good solution for him. 3) I think that hiding the "cancel membership" button is bad practice, and ultimately useless. Why? Because the customer could always get his money back without any help from "24/356 customer support" of the paysite or billing, just by contacting his bank during the 180 days from bill date. And as a result paysite and billing will be penalized by regulator for this accident. If there are more than 2-5% of such accidents, billing company have to pay serious forfeit. This also affects the paysite, and it could be totally banned by billing company (and other billing companies). BUT in the same time if the customer is known for requesting his money back on a regular basis, billing company should blacklist him (and other billing companies could decline his credit cards in future too). So that is why fair subscribe/unsubscribe process is beneficial for all sides. Bottom line. Sometimes, paysite is trying to use all scope of available banking tools, without noticing that these methods could be questionable. Sometimes, paysite offers the game: like one month subscription fee costs $34.99, when monthly membership costs $29.99... (allowing the customer to unsubscribe just after signing). And yes, sad but true, sometimes, paysite is deliberately cheating - | |
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| 07-29-13 10:22am - 4164 days | #3 | |
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diip (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 16 Registered: Jun 13, '13 |
Even if one site is no longer exists, it does not mean that the respective owner of the content disappears. It just means that this content is no longer available for distribution. Until you have no valid distribution licenses (contracts, permissions, model releases) you cannot run such type of the forum in legal way. Otherwise it is pure piracy. Period. There are model(s), producer(s), distributor(s). Producer MUST HAVE a contract with a model. Sometimes, if not often, there is a statement where model gives an authority to distribute materials only on specified sites, media, etc. Sometimes, if not often, producers trying to get full rights for the material, and asking a model to sign a "model release". Signed "Model release" means that model has no ANY rights about the material, and producer gets FULL rights for this material. Next, producer has a contract with distributor... and so far... - | |
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| 07-18-13 03:43pm - 4174 days | #18 | |
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diip (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 16 Registered: Jun 13, '13 |
(irony/) Nowadays, the quality is a question of technology, and I am very sorry that many people are just thinking only about megapixels. It is probably true, that one day even rave dancing while filming ends up with smooth and steady picture. But today, we could use just special stabilization gears (that are heavy enough), crane or tripod. With improved picture we are getting more ass hairs, skin scratches, etc... Picture looks realistic but sometimes not very aesthetically. May be that is why people subconsciously shake the camera? Sometimes stuff in not of very high quality looks breathtakingly, while when seeing the potentially good picture you are waiting for global quality improvement... And bummer. (/irony) While making my own project I am thinking a lot about end user and his role. Designing concepts, features, making plans... But time to time some questions are crashing my head... No one would like to advertise me if I put very small entrance fee. You know, that even total crap could be sold with expensive promotional campaign. But if I am putting all my savings in development, I have no enough resources to promote myself (it is a common problem of those who do)... So, how and where could I get my faithful customers? How they react on my very first ugly steps? Roughly speaking, customers should nurse me first... and be pretty tolerate. Why they have to like my beginning and participate if there are so much mega sites around? Now tell me, how much people that are surfing for free or paid porn willing not to get instant access to tons of screaming content but to invest in the future of the "new community"? How much people were deceived before big projects were small? Howbeit, I am repeating to myself again and again: "Just move forward, just create... and do not pay attention to the naysayers." I put my revelations here just for illustration of another side. And if you are looking for porn, you are ending up with a "porn". As clever customer is not very welcomed to this industry, as another side projects are not very popular to promote... - Edited on Jul 18, 2013, 03:49pm | |
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| 07-13-13 04:06pm - 4179 days | #12 | |
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diip (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 16 Registered: Jun 13, '13 |
I do not want to generalize. If it is a true that there are not so much respect inside... then how it could be outside? This situation is quite sad. Artistic, talented, intelligent, polite people are always in the minority. Now, please, turn your imagination ON. For most companies the porn production itself is something like a drug. And drug lord does not care much about his addicted consumers. Drug lord is protecting his area from other drug lords. He even do not bother to sale his shit himself... In this simple scheme the term of "happy customer" is undefined by default. And it is not a secret how much affiliate is getting from the single sale and each subsequent rebill... 50-75%. The banking fees here are additional from 9-15% (but to be completely honest, sometimes splitted with affiliate)... So, why this dirty calculations are here? It is just to illustrate that content is often secondary. Sales that making new sales are primary... It's a money machine, not a pleasure box. Again, I do not want to generalize, I am just sharing my own experience and observations. So, please, do not take offence. Lets also remember about the companies which are making the quality production with a passion. Yes, always remember about real artists which are primary happy about full concert halls and true applause. - | |
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| 07-12-13 07:03am - 4181 days | #8 | |
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diip (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 16 Registered: Jun 13, '13 |
Hi... I am a former webmaster of few sites that are listed here. I had email conversations with some of our subscribers (couple of them are respected members of PU) in the past... I could not mute myself anymore while reading this thread. The site developers, the final owner of the site, the cameraman (or content producer), the support stuff are usually very different persons or even separate companies. Each of them concentrating on sales and conversions. Each one is "stealing" the "sales ideas" from its competitor. Some models/actors are really enjoy their work and are open to advices. Another just want their quick money. I even know some girls that are counting the shutter sound during the session. The photographer/cameraman is selling the quantity of shoots or minutes of video. There are many criteria... but if you have not delivering good quality, you could always make the same money just increasing the quantity. Quantity is an easiest way. So, why learn? Some "photographers" just making their shooting to be able to sell the stuff not to final user, but to the site owner... Not so much of them have a good taste, educated or creative enough... And only very small part of that crowd is making their artwork to be suitable for themselves. Some producers are making good money and escape the business... yeah, because it was just a business, not a lifestyle, not the thing that they would like to continue and develop. Site owners are always looking on their stats more than on faces (of the models, photographers, developers)... They better invest another buck in advertisement, but not to improving the product. They already obtain the content that needed to be sold. Sold, not improved. Customer support is expenditure part of the business, that is why it could be outsourced too. Business model should be as easy as possible, get the stuff as cheap as possible (even very hi quality stuff, could be found with valuable discount or bulk) and sale it as much as possible... Art? Happy customers? Quality? In most cases the quality of sales page is only matters... In other words... You probably know, that most "fresh" updates represent a content that was already taken at least few days (sometimes even months) ago. Actually there is no effective mechanism to deliver a valuable suggestion of a customer to the models/actors and initial producer... And most are making big temporary money, not things to be proud off forever. /// /// /// /// /// /// /// /// /// /// I am developer... and currently busy with making my own project. Some features there are based on common wishes of people from that letters. I am also implementing another "business" logic for involved photographers and models to be able to get rid of "industry indifference standards". PS. Denner, I have no access to my previous mailbox anymore, but I restored my IMAP dump and recover some contacts. Pls, check your gmail and drop me a line if you remember me. - | |
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