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04-25-16  11:41am - 3069 days #6
lazebra (0)
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04-25-16  11:40am - 3069 days #5
lazebra (0)
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Yes I have seen it quite a lot and it of course bothers me and I have left the sites that do it.

However the worst of worst I found was few Russian networks back I think 10 years ago. They took this to a whole new level.

They had a batch of movies in the niche I enjoyed which was find and I waited patiently for updates.

However to me the updates came far to slow so I thought I will come back in a year or so to get what was new and see if they had change attitude with the regularity of updates.

However it just started over with the same batch of movies able in the beginning the first time I join I had. And the updates started from the beginning with the same videos they updated with the last time. It was labelled as "new" and "just added".

Needless to say I quit and never came back. Edited on Apr 25, 2016, 11:44am

04-14-16  11:41am - 3080 days #2
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Rachel Steele and Jodi west portraying two sisters. I want any young guy in there with a normal size cock and not the BIG cocks of the porn industry.

The guy is the nephew of these two hotties and is visiting "aunt Rachel" whom he has a secret ongoing relationship with.

The scene is to be recorded POV from the guy and it should be in virtual reality.

It starts with Rachel Steele and the guy at it. She is riding him with several facial closeups, "simulated kissing", eye contact and dirty talking - in other words lots and lots of intimacy.

Suddenly "Aunt Jodi" walks in and catch them at it. She is freaking out of what is happening but "Aunt Rachel" calms her down and she leaves while Rachel and the nephew continues. After a while "Aunt Jodi" walks in and sits in a chair nearby. She talks about she can't believe what is happening and their other sister will be so mad if she knew about this.

"Aunt Rachel" discus with her about she doesn't know how good this is because it is "wrong" and slowly but surely "Aunt Jodi" starts to play with herself and eventual comes to sit at the bed.

"Aunt Rachel" continues to ride while "Aunt Jodi" gets close up to the face of the nephew (camera) and she asks him questions how he likes his aunt riding him and if he would enjoy if it was her riding him instead of "Aunt Rachel". Lots of deep talks about if it was her on his cock and so on.

Eventually the nephew cums inside "Aunt Rachel" while he is encourage to do so by both of them.

Scene would continue in a part two

04-12-16  11:33am - 3082 days #18
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Well I hate:

Humiliation of any kind: Just don't get. For example I have seen so many BJ scenes getting ruined by the male actor having to slap the woman on the cheek. Stop it please. Who actually likes that?

Male masturbation of any kind: But mostly when the woman is on her knees and the cumshot is made like the male is standing and jerking off while she just sits there waiting.

Porn attributes: I dislike the "porn star" look. Give me natural women any day than the "porn star" look.

Music: I hate a scene getting ruin by music.

Big penises: Yes I hate it that male porn stars must have well above average penises. Give me normal sized penises any day (especially for VR) And no I am actually above average myself but penises in porn are imo just too big.

Penises complicating: As with big penis sizes I hate the female actress commenting about what a big cock she is having for lunch. I DON'T care about it.

Closeups of action: This goes for regular porn. I hate closeups of "cock in pussy". I want to see the whole scene for the most part. On the other hand in VR porn I prefer close ups of the woman's face.

04-12-16  09:32am - 3082 days #16
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


I guess to help clarify it very short and blunt.
Humans are not wired for this its not in our DNA, and my opinion goes way beyond anything normal or healthy for the mind and soul. I have been around long enough to see Playboy hit the stands and get pics via BBS lines and everything since then, so I disagree its just a new fad it goes to far in my opinion. Even the stars themselves are asking is its too far. This is not just technology it is a life changing technology. My opinion is VR will change porn 10x greater then the PC did. I know I know I can here all the porn dogs giving the other side of it and I do not disagree it will be amazing. I just wonder just because one can engage in VR should they and there will be no turning back. I see VR turning porn viewers more easily into addicts. When it can feel so real and close the jump to absorb into it is pretty easy. Video games did similar as well as Smart Phones and now people are absorbed into their games and phones and do not even no where reality stops.
The question bares asking how will we know where VR stops and we begin ? And by the time we figure it out it may be too late.


I can't rightly answer your questions from a broader perspective because that I don't know and I don't yet think there are enough studies that enlightens these issues thoroughly. So it is all speculation.

So I can only answer from my own perspective really and so far I actually had a drop in my porn usage for example after I started with the VR porn scene.

I don't spend nearly as long as I did with regular porn because I get much more immersed in this experience than with regular porn where I jumped from scene to scene.

I don't feel addicted to it at all. I just have other preferences with this type of porn than with regular porn.

I want intimacy in VR porn and in that I assume you are right that it's because it feels "real" to my mind and it can't tell the difference and therefore it is difficult/impossible to just objectify the actress as a just a prop for my own sexual gratification.

So instead I want to connect with her on a deeper level during the scene. But the question is then if it goes deeper than that and for me I don't think so. I have no problem "disconnecting" after the deed is done so to speak because after all I do it for my own sexual gratification and not for a emotional bond. Just like with regular porn. It is just seeking a higher pleasure.

But I can imagine that some won't be able to make that distinction and it will change there life living in a "non" existing reality where they connect with "programs" that don't disagrees with them, that don't have their own agendas and caters to their every need. But we also see that already with sex dolls. Do a search and see some of the documentaries about men that live in "relationships" with dolls. They have always been there and they will always be here.

It doesn't mean I neglect the issues because of course for those people VR means they loose even more the ability to connect with normal people. The question is however if VR will mean a increase in these types of issues. I don't know but I doubt it.

And we also have to remember that VR also brings some actual benefits where it is the other way around. I read for example in a news paper that doctors and psychiatrists said that VR was proven to be the perfect tool to deal with certain anxieties, phobias and depressions. It gave the patients a "risk free" environment to deal with their issues and then in the real world it was far easier to overcome those issues and interact with real humans.

But I guess we have to wait and see how it goes. I personally don't think it will end as bad. I think it will be a entertainment device - for the foreseeable at least. After that your guess is as good as mind.

In the end I actually think that humans and machine will melt together anyway. And maybe this is just a small step in that direction. Edited on Apr 12, 2016, 09:41am

04-12-16  03:34am - 3083 days #12
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


I have been watching VR news and info for about a decade when the Japanese were testing large very large head sets.

I have read a few hundred articles on this as well and came to these conclusions.

VR, will eventually allow a person to feel like they are having sex, a BJ etc. Ia m sure with external devices that are already in the works will physically and mentally simulate sex and responses from the character.

There is a problem however with this Toad and VR, I think its too much. There is reality and then there is VR. And why the limit is endless it makes one wonder if VR is good for you?
During porn watching and masturbation Endorphins are released in high amounts so much so that too much masterbation and one can become numb to it. Sex addicts have it worse and can literely end up not feeling love or passion at all. There are studies that show VR to be equivalent in one session to having sex for 12 hours. Its not just watching porn, VR is putting you right in place with every sensory input on max something even jerking it for 2 hours wont do . But I digress VR will be amazing technological win for the tech world, it will take video games to a whole new level, image actually playing in the world series, or superbowl, or play gold with tiger woods. But when it comes to sex, real VR sex maybe its just me, but taking 100% of the intimacy out of sex has never been done, ever, even getting a hooker is not the same.
Porn stars interviewed themselvs about VR, have said it will be very odd for them, when a person could in affect rape them, yet they are not. It didnt stop these stars from filiming but even porn stars have raised and eyebrown and of course cashed the checks.
There is a concern that maybe this was an area we should not have gone into. Don't get me wrong, I can imagine my fantasy of Madison Ivy, but the fantasy alone serves a huge purpose for most porn viewers, with that gone what are we left with but no intimacy and 100% sexual response and stimuli. I am concerned, and why I have priced head sets I may not do it just because it crosses a line with no return, even as was mentioned above porn will never be the same. Maybe there is something there we should consider ??


Not absolutely sure I understand your post completely but it's it just the more or less same old discussion that happens when new technology becomes available in the past?

I feel we have been there before with discussing all the negative consequences porn in any form could have. We had it with the release of porn picture, then it was film, then it was the internet, then sex toys, sex dolls, strip clubs and so on. Always it seem to entail from some people a new discussion about a downright spiral into the fall of society in any form.

And pornstars are afraid that viewers are "raping" them in VR and yet viewers are not? Come on! Anyone with a imagination could "rape" anyone without VR. We don't need any technology to do that.

I could understand the concern if there was a big request for actually rape scenes in VR but there is not (not yet anyway)

I participate on another forum where VR porn is discussed heavily and official releases are announced by the producers of porn (NA, virtualrealityporn, hologirls, badoink and so on) and oddly enough the most requested are not abuse scenes, humiliation scenes, degrading scenes and so on. It is not even hardcore specific scenes that gets requested. No the actually number one request is closeups of the faces of the actresses to give intimacy or the GFE experience.

Yes VR viewers ask for closeups, kissing, tenderness, eye contact and so on.

I think it is mind blowing that people that actually watch VR and do it regularly move away from the hardcore requests and ask for the above in the vast majority. Don't get me wrong the other stuff is there but it is just not in high request.

And I am honestly quite surprised by myself as I find myself looking more for intimacy, kissing, eye contect and so on for VR while with regular porn I was much more into hardcore sex. In fact I rarely look at the action in VR scenes and more on the actress face and many others report the exact same. They and I want to "connect" with the actress.

And hereI can understand your concerns for VR in the sense that instead of connecting with people in the real world we connect with a "dream" in VR. Instead of having a real life GF/BF we have enough in our perfect VR partner because she/he is tailored perfectly to you. That is a very really possibility I think might have to be address in the future somehow because it might lead to a disconnection from real people.

But again it is early days. It might shift again to something else as VR becomes more mainstream.

04-10-16  07:53am - 3084 days #10
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I am a VR porn user so let me give my view of this. First the way I got into it was with the launch of the new Samsung S7 phone and I got a free headset with it and after some browsing I found VR porn. It took some technical fiddling before I got it to work but now it runs smoothly.

So is it good? Well after using it now for well over 3 weeks I can without a doubt said that I firmly believe VR porn is the future. This technology has so much potential that it will move the boundaries of porn when headsets become mainstream.

Personal I can't go back to regular porn - I just can't because the experience is so strong and that's even though the niches I go for have not yet made it to VR.

The first time I played a porn video on my headset I was blown away because it literally felt like I was there. It was a POV scene from a mans perspective and it was made so I actually felt so that the man's body was mine and the woman that was there was talking to me, looking at me and I was about to have sex with her.

It was so convincing that I was almost as excited as the first time I had sex. I couldn't believe how strong this experience was.

And that's the power of VR - it brings a level of immersion that regular porn just never do or come close.

But it also changes the game I have realized after my few weeks with it and you can slowly see that in the movies that are being released - the regular porn formula just doesn't work in VR anymore.

Why? Well I am a frequent user at another forum for VR porn and here sites like NA, VRP, BADOINK and so on announce their releases and people react to them and it is clear that consumers want something else from VR porn than regular porn.

Instead of just hardcore action the want the GFE. They want intimacy, closeups of the actress face, kissing, eye contact, "connection" with the actress, cuddling and so on. The "action" becomes almost a secondary thing in VR porn.

Personally the most exciting thing for me in VR have been in those POV scenes where the actress does cowgirl and she bend forward and her face feels like it's right there above you - like only a few inches away. It's almost like you can feel her breathe on your face and your eyes "meet" and you actually try to suppress the desire to kiss her because you know in your mind she actually isn't there. It is beyond words to be frank and something you of course can't do with regular porn and something you need to experience if you haven't yet.

Anyway currently most VR porn out there is just straight up regular sex with young girls, some threesomes, some foursomes, girl stripping and masturbating and quite a few lesbian scenes. There is a bit of transsexual but it is VERY limited.

So that's currently the biggest issue with VR: it needs much more content and I can't wait till VR starts to explorer other niches because right now what the future holds is anyone's guess.

But when you "do" watch VR porn regularly like me, you realize that VR porn has so many opportunities for different fetishes and niches that can be taken to a completely new level regular porn can't beat with: Take for example:

- foot fetishes: With VR you can literally have the feet in your face if that's what your are into.

- giantism: A few scenes already exist where the woman is more than twice as big as normal. I am not into this fetish but I have watched some of them and it just works. It actually does, Your mind believes it. So this fetish is just made for VR porn because you can make the woman as big as you want. I can't wait to see what the future holds here.

- Facesitting: Now it can be "almost" real as VR brings this to a new level. Now longer are you forced to watch the woman facesit a random male actor as she through can VR facesit on you. I have tried a few videos out there where the woman's private part was very close to the camera and I found myself wanting to stretch out my tongue and try to lick it.

- Peeping tom: With VR you can actually be placed behind the curtain and watch other people having sex if you like that.

- Smoking: It will literally feel like you get the smoke blown in your face if you are into that.

- Being watched: In VR you can be places in a POV scene in the male's body and having sex with a actress while there are people around you in the scene watching.

- Sex with Jessica Rabbit or any cartoon characters: Could be made real with VR porn.

And the list goes on. There are so many opportunities with VR that can be made "real" with VR that wasn't possible before.

So what's the downside you properly wonder:
Well currently the prices as others mentioned already. It is quite expensive for the headsets right now unless you already have a compatible Samsung phone and you can get the GEAR VR (around 99 dollars) but I imagine that as the competition rises the prices will drop fairly quickly but who knows.

The resolution still lacks something to be desired. Right now anything longer away than a few meters becomes "undetailed" and longer away it gets worse. But it is early days and hopefully with the next generation the resolution gets a bum up.

It is a bit difficult to get to work for the average Jane or Joe. I am personal OK technical minded and even for me it took some time and trials to get it running and that needs to be addressed soon so it won't become a obstetrical for potential users that give up because of it.

Lack of content is a major problem right now. It is simple so new that not many players are in this yet. And that means that unless you are into what I mentioned earlier you are out of luck as it is now. There is barely any MILF/mature content, next to no taboo if any, next to no transsexual accept a few, no quality or real JOI, and the list goes on. As mention before: We need much more content.

My two cents! Edited on Apr 10, 2016, 10:21am

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