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| 11-16-09 01:57am - 5515 days | #30 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User  Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
Stop recycling scenes from dead sites, trying to pass em off as your own, also stop renaming actresses, what is the point of that? Also, stop trying to pass off screen grabs as high quality screenshots, sites KILL me with this shit, also, I dunno what the deal is with sites not having full videos, stop it, put the full video up along with the splits, some of us find it more convenient to down full scenes instead of scene piece by scene piece, it's ridiculous. I feel like walkin away from paying for porn, it's getting old, I am also tired of download speeds below 100kb, I have an 8gb line, I should not be downing at 80kb, WTF?! I am looking at you Porn.com, Brazilian Facials & Porn Pros, man I am gonna stop here. lol | |
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| 11-16-09 01:49am - 5515 days | #8 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
Thanks for your responses folks, I do appreciate your time and words, I guess I am just at a point where I have so much damn porn that I have hit a brick wall, and as far as images go, I have about 30GB of Suicide Girls..... well had, I cut that down to about 5GB thanks to photo sets I didn't really care for, I think I am more put back by the fact of new sites without much content trying to get $30 from folks, even sites that have videos from OLD ass sites like "It's your porn"(videos from this site have been recycled a million damn times, it's quite staggering). I guess I am just tired. | |
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| 11-14-09 12:31am - 5517 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
I see that porn site prices are on the rise and I also see that sites that are dedicated to hi-res photography are being priced up there with the all the other sites and I want to know if you think that photography only sites are worth the $29.99 and up prices that they charge you or do you think these sites are insane? Personally, I couldn't see myself paying $30.00 for images, ever, no matter the size or quality, all in all, you are paying for images to sit in a folder and occasionally on your desktop, now don't get me wrong, I collect images but I have never paid to get images, well I joined JSex Network but for images and video, so I am not downing image collectors at all, I am only asking are pics worth paying for. Thanks 4 Reading, Michael. | |
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| 11-10-09 09:47am - 5521 days | #6 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
Thanks for your answers everyone, I had no idea what was going on with that, it just seemed so damn stupid, but I guess on the surface it seems stupid and probably really is, but I guess to those behind the scenes it's a smart move, thanks for helping me understand it.... a bit. The only thing I DON'T get is why have them be the EXACT same? It would be kinda nice if Freeones added those picsets they charge you points for on their site, I mean something ya know? | |
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| 11-07-09 03:38pm - 5523 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
What? What is the point? There is no difference, so what is the damn point? I don't understand the benefit of cloning a site and adding nothing to it, someone please explain this. lol. http://www.payones.com http://www.videobox.com Also, it's not just this site, but ANY clone site, what is the point? | |
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| 11-04-09 02:19pm - 5527 days | #42 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
Well, I pay because I know what I am getting up front, I can preview the scene before I download it, it's much easier than depending on others(torrents)to assure you that you will even get the file(seeders who take off), I like to surf pornsites to see what I want, like a chick when they go shopping, and the most important part is, there aren't many torrents out there that cater to the genres of porn that I like(ie. BJ Only, POV, Virtual Sex). I can say that it's getting harder and harder to bring myself to pay for porn these days, with every site on the block wanting to charge you $29.99, even brand new untested sites, I am on the cusp of saying "fuck you" to paying for porn and going back to my old ways because it seems that pornsite webmasters are becoming masters of deception and trickery and the more this happens the more likely I will go back to underhanded tactics of porn collecting. So, in short, I pay for porn because to me, it's the better and more easier way to go. | |
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| 07-21-09 12:58am - 5633 days | #19 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
Lewis Black, Frank Caliendo, Ron White, Zach Galafinakis, George Carlin, Earthquake, David Cross, Dave Attell, Bernie Mac, Chappelle, Tracy Morgan & Bruce Bruce. | |
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| 07-17-09 10:37pm - 5636 days | #9 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
That site looks really similar to Adultdvdempire, is it a clone or just run by an uninspired webmaster who looked at ADVDE and said YES!! Yeah, it's an almost exact clone, I signed up and shit is exactly the same, WTF?! Edited on Jul 17, 2009, 10:41pm | |
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| 07-17-09 10:30pm - 5636 days | #31 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
Last porn dvd I actually bought was Face 2 Face 6, only because nobody had it for rent or download, that was in January 09, I plan on buying Face 2 Face 1 soon, only $10.00, and is also rare, so why not? But I usually rent or download. | |
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| 02-03-09 02:38pm - 5800 days | #4 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
It's like now, this day and age, with a world full of douchebags, I wouldn't be surprised if they were doing it just to piss us off, I mean I am sure they know this is a top annoyance in their industry yet more and more people do it, it's like they say, "You don't like it so I am gonna do it some more and fuck you, I got your money". I can't fucking stand it and await the day when these asshats are replaced by robots, robots without a voice box. | |
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| 02-02-09 04:55pm - 5801 days | #78 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
http://www.chubbypov.com | |
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| 01-19-09 02:29pm - 5815 days | #12 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
Actually, back when I was a member of Porn.com a year ago I would alternate between my PC and my friend's PC and they didn't do anything, I did it for Video Box as well, nothing happened, 2 different IPs, so I dunno how many IPs are the limit but I know that 2 seem to be ok as I am sure pornsites know people have more than 1 PC these days. | |
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| 01-17-09 07:54pm - 5817 days | #8 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
I know, I was only curious. :) I will say that this is becoming retarded though, the quality of pornsites are on a rapid decline while prices raise to the high heavens, it's pissing me off a bit, but the site I joined is useless, with it's download speeds of 100kb and their slow loading webpages, I said fuck it and cancelled. In a perfect world I would be able to get a refund but alas this is not, so this is the 2nd site I wasted my money on, and FYI the sites I am talking about are the horrible horrible Porn.com and Adult Doorway, they are by far the worst sites I have ever joined. I have a review brewing up for the both of those shitballs. But yeah, I know there is 0 tolerance on pass sharing, but I thought I would ask anyway, just to be crystal clear on the subject. | |
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| 01-17-09 03:47pm - 5817 days | #4 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
Well I wouldn't post it publicly, I would actually just choose someone at random and send an email with the user pass, so it would only be from me to them. I just don't wanna break any strict rules, and I was under the assumption that the rules were mainly talking about pass sharers who crack sites and such, but since this is a legit paid for membership I had to ask, and since I am not going to use it what would be the harm to said site, they already got my money and I hated their site, so I should be able to pass the rest of my time on to someone else who may appreciate it more, I know that isn't how things work though. :P But yeah, I wouldn't post the pass publicly, just choose a random member and bestow them with the misery I once suffered at the hand of said site, or what if it's a site that no longer updates and I gathered all I had to get, I should be able to pass that shit around like hotcakes.... at least in my opinion, but anywho, that is all I wanted to know really. I was about to email the user pass to someone then I looked up at the rule as I was emailing and was like awww shit, so I didn't and made this thread to see if it was ok to do. Edited on Jan 17, 2009, 03:56pm (NMC2008: grammar correction) | |
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| 01-17-09 02:27pm - 5818 days | #10 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
I know I am going to be alone here but I hate the smell of the vagina, period, of any kind, I know that may sound weird but it's just the way it is for me, so with that said, I go down on chicks for them, not for me, hell if chicks didn't expect it I probably wouldn't do it. I am a bastard, I know, but I am a special kind of bastard, I do shit against my will to pleasure the opposite sex, I am in a pussy prison. Also, while I am making a special name for myself here why not also tell you that I hate the look of most vaginas, I hate hairy vaginas, I hate meaty vaginas too, so basically, I need a shaved clean pretty vagina in order for my mouth to touch it, that is when I will enjoy the deed, hasn't happened yet though, but I will say if a chick isn't shaved she will be before I touch her. I have shaved a chick before, it was classic, she laughed the entire time, it was pretty funny that I am so fucked up, but it was fun too. :) | |
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| 01-17-09 02:08pm - 5818 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
The rule is pass sharing, now I know this is probably one of the strictest rules to be enforced here, but hear me out for a second. Ok, so lets say I joined a porn site, and that site was so fucking terrible that I decided to cancel, but I still have time left on the site, about 3 weeks left but I didn't want to go back to said site, would it be against the rules to give my time to another user? All I want to do is share a legit paid for site with someone else instead of letting my money go completely down the tubes, so I was wondering is a legit kind of pass share such as this ok or is it still a no no? Just curious. :) Mike. Edited on Jan 17, 2009, 02:12pm | |
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| 01-12-09 12:13pm - 5823 days | #23 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
Longest I have ever went without subbing to anything is 1 year, I went at least a year without joining a porn site and the site that made me join it was Video Box, before that I was apart of Deluxe Pass. Now I can't seem to get enough of porn site subs, fucking crazy I tell ya. | |
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| 01-12-09 12:10pm - 5823 days | #19 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
I only use Get Right & HiDownload, both have done me right for years and for pics I use Picaloader. | |
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| 09-10-08 04:14am - 5947 days | #3 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
Video Box - Excellent site with endless supplies of porn, it may not have the most recent stuff but it has a whole lot of movies for almost anyone's tastes. My XXX Pass - Awesome network of sites, excellent choice in models, great bonuses, excellent content, has hi res pictures sets in zip form, and the only site I know of besides Naughty America that has pornstar interviews, I love that stuff. Porn.com - like video box this place has a multitude of awesome flicks but porn.com also has a lot more variety in movies than VB, it has movies I remember seeing as a teenager man, that's cool, also it has a huge picture library as well and on top of that it has bonus sites, the bonus sites could be a lot better but hey, they have them. | |
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| 08-23-08 11:32pm - 5964 days | #11 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
Girls I am tired of seeing: Gianna Michaels I think that's it, but shit, Gianna seems to be everywhere, she is probably in Japanese porn somewhere, I know she was on OnlyBlowjob.com, which is a mostly if not all euro girl site, she squeezed her big ass titties on that site too, I like Gianna but damn. | |
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| 08-18-08 03:00am - 5970 days | #22 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
Well I advise you to steer clear of Bang Bros and Incredible Pass, every site on those networks have this annoying "feature". Blowjob Ninjas "USED" to be the only exception but it has went the way of the dodo. I cannot stand the rambling guy either but it's not going away anytime soon because it seems that these guys do it to annoy their customers, I swear I think that is the case because they aren't talking about shit, they are hooting and hollering, shit, what next a studio audience voice track machine like old ass sitcoms? This pisses me off to no end, I deleted my entire Bang Bros folder after viewing a 10 scenes per series and got the same jibber jabber from the camera man and the actor and sometimes the actress gets in on the conversation, who are they shooting these movies for? Seriously! | |
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| 08-16-08 09:59am - 5972 days | #2 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
I am disgusted by all brutal porn, now I don't wanna step on anyone else's tastes and such but I personally see no reason why porn(which is about sexual stimulation for BOTH parties)has to be abusive and brutal, I mean what is the point of slapping a woman in the face because she puked after the guy forcefully rams his cock down her throat? I only like good old traditional abuse free porn and you will never see any porn in my collection where anyone is abused in any fashion, sex is for fun and stimulation not for torture and mutilation. | |
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| 08-12-08 11:18pm - 5975 days | #5 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
Excessive Photoshop - I like to see her natural skin, not an ultra smooth pallet of digital paint. Hardcore Photosets - No cocks in my photoset please. Closeups - If I wanted to see inside the vag I would be a gynecologist, when I fuck a chick I do not take a moment to stare into her vagina. Bullshit Photos - I don't want to see you at the mall or brushing your fucking hair or painting your fence or hugging your pet or coloring in a coloring book(little lupe I am looking at your ass) or some boring ass shit, I want to see you modeling for the camera in various positions and awesome hot clothing and such, model for me and work the camera. I am not too much a fan of solo chick sites as you can see. lol. | |
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| 08-12-08 11:52am - 5976 days | #4 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
Excaliburfilms - I would avoid this place because they have lots of movies here but the challenge is actually getting them as most of your queue will not be available and they aren't prone to sending you the wrong movie from your queue. I once had them send me a movie from 30 feet into me queue when I was trying to get something that was checked out for a month, it finally comes in and I rush it to the top of my queue and they don't even send it, I was pissed off and that was the last straw of many straws. They have a free vod collection that they never update and it seems like they keep new releases out of the hands of new members for a month, I am not positive about that but it seemed like it when I first joined. Just avoid it. Adult DVD Empire - It's alright if you don't mind waiting 3 or 4 days for the shipping back a forth without a rapid return, it feels like you are getting ripped off because it takes so long, they have nice selections as well but like excaliburfilms, most of your queue will not be available for a while, so basically you end up having to just pick something instead of getting something you really want. These places are a pain in the ass so I went to online memberships, the movies are never checked out or unavailable, better value for your money imo. | |
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| 08-03-08 07:02pm - 5984 days | #2 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
In order: 1.) Tia Sweets - I have the hots for her, plus I talked to her before and she is sweet. 2.) Kaylynn - Her personality and conviction is awesome, if I could have a pornstar gf she would be it. 3.) Jade Marcela - She is hot and possibly one of the best asian cocksuckers in the biz. 4.) Tiffany Mynx - Awesome ass, awesome cocksucking, hot & horny, awesome tits. 5.) Monet Devine - She is hot and horny and I wanna bust a nut on her large forhead. Bonus + My Covergirl - Victoria Sweet - I loves Vicky Sweet, she can suck, fuck and look sweet doing it all, she would be my covergirl and personal... ahem....assistant. | |
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| 07-30-08 05:59pm - 5988 days | #3 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
You want a solo chick who is awesome, I once joined Teen Topanga and it's pretty cool, if you like solo sites then try Topanga. I joined a site called Kayden420 and regret it like 10 minutes later, so be careful of eye catching front pages because once you charge that card they have successfully ripped off another soul. I am not too into solo but I couldn't resist Topanga, Little Lupe is awesome as well, she actually does hardcore as opposed to Topanga, who is solo masturbation and girl on girl. | |
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| 07-22-08 01:41pm - 5997 days | #4 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
DVD Series: The Adventures of Dr Fellatio Blowjob Fantasies Shut Up & Blow Me Little Asian Cocksuckers My Plaything Internet Series: Blowjob Ninjas Sexy POV Velvet Extasy 1000 Facials Housewife 1 On 1 | |
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| 07-19-08 03:53pm - 5999 days | #4 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
Yeah but I lost access before I cancelled, then when I cancelled they said I have access to the site for the remainder of the two days..... buuuuuut I can't get in. Ah well, it was only $2.00 but still. | |
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| 07-19-08 01:03pm - 6000 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
In the past few days I have done some trial subs with the following sites: Kayden420 - stopped working after 2 hours Plumper Pass - Never worked and I got a refund And for some unknown reason the user pass stops working in a couple of hours or doesn't work at all, I mean WTF is up with that? Like this morning I joined Kayden420 about 2 hours ago and it worked, I downloaded a few vids then I log off, so here I am now trying to log in and it says I have a bad user pass, also customer service is only by email so that is useless since my trial is for 2 days and we all know customer service isn't that prompt. So basically, instead of a 2 day trial I get a 2 hour trial, which is bullshit IMO, so all in all, be carefull with your Epoch trials because they will probably stop working the moment you log out of the site, so if you join an Epoch site by trial then do a porn rush and collect all you can asap because it might not last long. Have any of you had this problem with this or any other site by billing company? | |
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| 07-16-08 04:30pm - 6002 days | #3 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
American List: - Kaylynn - Victoria Sweet - Misty Mendez - Tia Sweets - Alex Devine Honorable Mentions: Gianna Michaels Charlotte Stokely Britany Madision Britany Blue European List: Delta White Rita Faltoyano Alicia Rhodes Queeny Love Taylor Wane Honorable Mentions: Sylvia Saint Alexis Silver Angelica Bella Anita Blonde Anna Nova Asian List: Jade Marcela Tia Tanaka Avena Lee Lucy Thai Ava Devine Honorable Mention: Lily Thai Sunshine Mila Young Ayoko Mika Tan Loni Black List: Obsession Mone Devine Lacey Duvalle Vanessa Blue Crystal Clear BBW Honorable Mentions: Kitten Devin DeRay Spontaneeous Xtasy Havana Ginger Pinky Latin List: Luscious Lopez Sativa Rose Felony Yurizan Beltran Anell Lopez Honorable Mention: Eva Angelina Veronica Brazil Vanessa Daisy Marie Latia Lopez | |
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| 07-13-08 01:11am - 6006 days | #11 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
It's funny because I wanna join JSN so damn bad but..... that pricetag is killing me.... but if I paid for Only Blowjob and DVDTube and Incredible Pass and Porn.com and Deluxe Pass and Naughty America then why not JSN? But now! now I am having another delima, now I read on here about Asia Movie Pass and now that is in my way, lol. | |
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| 07-11-08 09:00am - 6008 days | #3 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
I use: DAEMON TOOLS - for my virual drive needs. Picaloader - for my picture collection needs. Image Grabber 2 - for my screen cap needs. Ripit4me - for my dvd ripping needs DVD Shrink - for my dvd creating needs VirtualDub - for my animated gif making needs | |
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| 07-11-08 08:55am - 6008 days | #6 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
Yeah but at least I don't understand what they are saying, which makes it better to me, I would much rather hear something I don't understand than to hear "oh yeah, suck it bitch" or "move that ass" or "you like that big cock in your ass" or "take it all the way down baby" just UGH!! lol. | |
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| 07-09-08 11:35am - 6010 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
Ok folks I have been having a tough time deciding what JAV site to join, now I see JSexNetwork is high rated but then I see Action JAV which is above JSexNetwork, but that is just here, I float around to other review sites and then you see the fluctuating opinions of both sites. So I decided to come here to you folks and ask the hard question: What is truly the better JAV site out there? JSex is my front runner but I kinda don't dig the download limit, but it's ok. Also, I joined Only Blowjob and hated it so much, so would 1,000 Facials be better? I like familiar pornstars and OB had a couple that I knew, I felt like I wasted my money on that site because I hardly downloaded anything from it, I was pretty disappointed, so I will lay it out on the table, my next targets are: JSexNetwork 1,000 Facials Big Boob POV POVLust Killer Gram Asia Movie Pass Sexy POV Little Lupe Liz Vicious Chica's Place Tug & Suck Annoyances: Annoying Talking Guys, basically anything like Bang Bros actors, false advertisement and lure tactics, crap update schedules, uninterested chicks. Also if a site is made up of dvd releases, like if a non dvd site is made up of scenes from the Suck It Dry dvd series, basically if it is non exclusive content, kinda like Load My Mouth is from Brandon Iron's 50 to 1 dvd series, please let me know. Thank you. Edited on Jul 09, 2008, 11:40am | |
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| 07-08-08 05:04pm - 6010 days | #38 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
I chose Lexi Belle because her cuteness mesmerizes me, she is soooo adorable. | |
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| 07-08-08 05:00pm - 6010 days | #26 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
1. Gianna Michaels 2. Latia Lopez 3. Britany Blue - I love her areolas Honorable Mentions: Havana Ginger - I love her areolas too. Elizabeth Rollings Crystal Clear - BBBW | |
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| 07-08-08 04:56pm - 6010 days | #35 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
Tia Sweets Lacey Duvalle Pinky Luscious Lopez Naomi (before the anorexia) Tiffany Mynx Kaylynn Anell Lopez Cody Lane Julia Bond Dragon Lily Priya Rai Alexis Texas Katja Kassin Yurizan Beltran Ava Devine I know I am missing a bunch though. My top 5 current fav asses are: Tia Sweets Naomi Tiffany Mynx Anell Lopez Luscious Lopez Also as far as websites go, I will go with Bang Bros Network sites for the best asses. | |
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| 07-08-08 04:47pm - 6010 days | #11 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
I always pull out and spray her on her face, boobs, ass, stomach, back, feet, lips, or I just have her suck me off and swallow, I have done it inside when my ex was on BC and I don't like anal sex at all but when I have done it I wouldn't pull out. Soooo, I prefer to pull out for a visual moneyshot. | |
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| 07-08-08 04:44pm - 6010 days | #14 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
My FAB 5 is not and will never be final, but here goes. My current FAB 5: Lexi Belle Naomi (before the anorexia) Kaylynn Ava Devine Obsession | |
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| 07-08-08 04:35pm - 6010 days | #9 | |
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NMC2008 (0)
Active User Posts: 40 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: Los Angeles, California |
I use FlashGet & HiDownload and they do the job for me, very well in fact. | |
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