None of the answers really fit for me, but as I interpret the question it is how long have I willingly gone without surfing porn. The answer to that is (sadly!) only days. I've had longer periods without porn but that would be because of lack of internet access. For example, I don't know how this is handled in other countries, but in Canada you're in deep doo doo if you access porn through a military internet connection even if you're in your quarters. Several years ago a Commander in the navy just about lost his job because he looked at Maxim magazine. To the country's credit, the citizens overwhelmingly saw this as a silly application of the rules. Now the outcome might be different if I sign in to Sex and Submisson...
I can't figure out why this market hasn't been tapped. The production costs are long gone so all it would take is digitizing them. It would be great if a site like Videobox would create a 'classics' channel to give these older titles what they deserve.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Part of the Hustler Mega Pass network
- Access to many ‘classics’
- Looks like it hadn’t updated in two years, but it may be updating now
- Several formats and downloading options
- Supports download managers
- No obvious time-out issues
- Excellent download speeds
- Site bills at $19.95
- Bills through Epoch
Cons:
- Many scenes are unlabeled for performers
- Many scenes have the wrong thumbnails
- VCA must have a huge ‘classics’ catalogue, so why so few here?
- The curse of the modern porn site: streaming that launches automatically
- Some dead links
- Many titles are incomplete
- Search / sort functions don’t work well
- No pictures
- Many titles are ‘bargain bin’ compilations
Bottom Line:
I’m a big fan of ‘classic’ videos. I realize that’s a term open to some interpretation but my preference for classic starts in the mid-1980s and goes through the mid to late 1990s. I’m always open to taking a membership on a site that offers me some titles to expand my collection. So with this in mind I signed up for the Hustler Mega Pass network through VCA XXX. I should note that while the website is definitely called VCA XXX, on the site itself the banner says VCA Classics. The DVDs on the site seem to fall within my preferences. There is little here if your preferences are earlier than the mid-1980s.
The site is relatively small, offering only 111 DVDs as of this writing. It appears that the site stopped updating in 2010 but may have started again recently since there was one update per month in the first three months of this year. There is no update for April.
The site is obviously a video site, so no pictures are offered that I could find.
The primary page is divided into two main segments: one for individual scenes (listed by performer) and one for DVDs. Clicking on the performer in the scene section obviously opens that scene for viewing or downloading. Clicking on a DVD cover open that DVD’s page where you get one thumbnail of the star per scene. Clicking on that thumbnail opens the scene page for viewing or downloading.
Streaming options are for MP4, FLV and WMV. You can also choose the quality of the stream as Basic, Medium, High or Super. Super is not often available.
When you roll over the download button the options for that scene appear in a dropdown menu. Downloads are most commonly available as WMVs but sometimes there are MP4s on offer too. This site has very little in high-resolution on offer. My suspicion is that because we’re dealing with ‘classics’ the quality of the originals is a limiting factor. For that reason, correct or not, I’m won’t hold the lack of HD availability against the site.
The more-recently added videos (I download WMVs) are at 720x540 at 1200kbps and 30fps. WMV Codec is 9. Videos uploaded a while ago (as far back as 2003) are lower resolution.
The site (and all the other in the network) commits a sin that seems to be more common now: opening the scene page starts the streaming automatically. This presents the obvious, though easily fixed problem of being surprised when your speakers suddenly blare out the sounds of sex. That’s solved by turning your speakers off. But in my opinion the problem is bigger than that: the fact that the scene starts downloading as a stream hogs bandwidth and slows the downloading process.
I used Free Download Manager successfully and had no issues with timeouts. Download speeds were excellent.
The site is not without flaws. It is clearly an add-on to the network and not intended as a flagship site. The updates are sporadic. My biggest beef with the site is the size of it. VCA has a huge catalogue of titles so why not offer more and update more often? What’s worse is that many of the titles added when the site was new are bargain bin European compilations that Hustler put out.
Other beefs are in how the DVDs are presented. Each DVD opens into a separate page that provides one thumbnail per scene and lists the star. Or that’s the plan anyway. At least 25% of the scenes don’t list a star. This doesn’t make sense since these are the guys who uploaded it. Why not make the site complete and make sure names are associated with every scene? In some cases, the thumbnails don’t even match the scene. I saw instances where, in a movie from the mid-1990s the thumbnails were clearly from a movie a decade newer. In several cases, the five or six thumbnails were even taken from the same newer scene. It just looks sloppy.
There were some dead links for the highest resolution available which meant having to download a lower resolution. This isn’t a huge issue as I may have encountered a dozen of these dead links on the site.
Many of the sort functions don’t work well. If you select to sort by “Pornstars,” for example, you’re given a list of pornstars on the entire network, not just on this site. What’s worse though, is that all you get is a brief bio – there are no links to scenes or photos on the site or network.
TBP notes that there is a full trial. I can’t speak to that as I took the full membership but I wasn’t charged the $30 price listed there. I don’t know why, but I was only billed $20. I don’t know if that was a special offer or whether that’s the price now.
If this were a stand-alone site I couldn’t recommended it. It is too small, updates infrequently and has a lot of low grade material mixed in. I hoped for a better classics site from a company with Hustler’s resources. As a secondary site to the network it makes a decent addition but I do wish someone would create a better site than this. These older titles deserve better.
Fuck, fuck, fuck. That's it! I'm thinking of quitting here at PornUsers until I can get caught up with all the sites that I've added to my 'must get' list. Just when I think I'm working through it you come along and mention Wow Girls. I've had a Diesel Access membership before (and definitely will again), and I think the aptly named "Wow Girls" has moved to the head of the list. I know their models may not be to everyone's liking, but they are perfect in my opinion.
I also noticed that Gloria appears in a true girl/girl video. That's new. When I was last at Diesel she was solo but for one or two very soft g/g scenes. I emailed the crew there to ask if any b/g or g/g was in her future and the answer was yes to g/g and likely not for b/g.
God I love the Diesel lasses. Thanks to both you and Denner for pointing this site out.
I hope someone here does a review soon. But if that doesn't happen I'm sure I won't wait.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Part of the Fame Digital network
- TBP Discount
- Updates every five days
- Top quality porn
- Many options to stream or download the videos
- Videos and photos
- Supports download managers
- Good download speeds
- High production values in the DVDs
Cons:
- Small site (as of this writing)
- Only 41 DVDs as of review date
- Not bundled with any bonus sites
- Scene links time out after approximately 10 minutes
- No zips for the photos
- Not much anal
Bottom Line:
I’m a big fan of many of the Fame Digital sites, especially the two that give access to a wide variety of Evil Angel DVDs. This site is a relatively new addition to the Fame family and if you’re familiar with their premium sites then this one looks a lot like the others. That’s not a bad thing; all the premium Fame sites have a straightforward approach to sorting and accessing the DVDs and scenes. Other sites could learn from their practical approach.
The site is laid out well: you can choose to sort by scenes, DVDs or by series name. You can search by star and niche too. Finding what you like here is certainly no problem.
The site features titles from the Reality Junkies / Mile High studio. All the Reality Junkies series’ listed on IAFD are represented on this site. There’s a good mix too, meaning that most people could find material they would like. Legal teens and cougars are both well represented. Series’ like Babysitter Diaries, Cougar’s Prey, Couples Seeking Teens, and Pornstar Athletics are all represented here. It seems that just about the only niche that is under-served is anal. For many, that might be a good thing, but for an anal fan it is a bit disappointing.
The Reality Junkies studio is relatively new so you won’t find any ‘classics’ here. Also, since they haven’t been around very long that will indicate the models you’re likely to see. Many of my current favourite models make appearances here.
Like other Fame sites there are a variety of options for seeing the videos. Streaming and downloading is available and both offer various options. Streaming is available in three resolutions from 240p to 540p. Downloads are available in two formats, WMV and MP4. The WMVs are available in 240p or 480p. I downloaded the 480p videos and they come in at 720x400 at 2200kb/s. They use codec 8 and the videos play at 30fps. I don’t pretend to understand the technical bits of videos, but even though these numbers are lower than on other sites the scenes look great. The MP4s are available in five resolutions from 240p to 1080p. I’d prefer to download the HD stuff, but I hate the players that play MP4s. To further add to your choices, there are five resolutions available for mobile devices, also up to 1080p. There aren’t many other sites that offer such a wide variety of options.
Pictures are available, but since this is a DVD site I didn’t download any. They’re decent quality at 1280x763 and there can be a lot of them per scene, but the deal-breaker on photos is that there doesn’t appear to be any zips. There are frequently hundreds of photos per scene so if you want all the photos be prepared to work for them. This is a really odd oversight for a site that gets everything else so right.
There are some negatives to the site too, but each member will weigh these as they choose. By far the most serious negative to the site (for now, anyway) is the size of the site. Currently there are only 41 DVDs on the site. Updates are added, but there doesn’t appear to be a schedule for updates as they can occur every couple of days but sometimes there looks to be as much as five days between updates. I can’t say this for sure, but I assume that the updates add a scene like the other premium Fame sites and not a full DVD. Offsetting the small size is the TBP discounted price of $9.95. One caveat with that is you’ll want to remember to cancel your membership before the end of the month as it looks like it rebills at $30.
Other minor negatives are that unlike most of the other Fame premium sites this one isn’t bundled with any other sites. That certainly isn’t fatal but it would be a better value if this membership gave you access to other Fame sites.
The final negative, which is also in common with other Fame sites is that if you’re using a download manager you’ll find that the links time-out after about 10 minutes.
Obviously any prospective member will have to decide if the value is here given the newness and size of the site, but for me the (current) lack of quantity is more than offset by the quality of the site and what it offers. The DVDs themselves have high production values with current A-list stars, and the site offers them to members through a simple and effective interface and high download speeds. To further add to the value, I’m not aware that this studio offers these videos on other sites. The bottom line for me is that this is a site that I was glad I joined and I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend it.
All of the above for me, except for novels. I have to confess that I haven't read a work of fiction since I last had a professor force me to do that. I just don't enjoy fiction.
While I read a lot online I find that with so many ads and hotlinks within the articles it gets distracting.
I subscribe to a newspaper on my iPad and while it took a little getting used to I wouldn't go back now. The subscription isn't to the website: I get an exact replica of the newspaper. I like that a lot.
One thing I can definitely recommend to lads of a certain age who are interested in technical things are a series of books by Haynes Publishing in the UK. Amazon has the whole series. Many of you who are in your mid-40s or older will likely remember the Haynes car repair manuals that were made for every conceivable model. They were like the Chilton's manuals but were usually more detailed. I and everyone I knew had one for the car he drove since the cars we drove when younger were crap and we couldn't afford to take them to a garage. Anyway, the market in car repair manuals has likely collapsed but Haynes is publishing a series of interesting books about various machines. The Apollo Space Program, the Shuttle, the Avro Vulcan, the F-4, the Titanic all have manuals. (So does the Star Trek Enterprise and Star Wars has one too.) The cool thing about them is the covers are exactly like the car manuals. They make a great book to freak out your friends. "Why do you have a Space Shuttle repair manual on your table?" That's not a question that most people hear very often.
It sounds like we're on the same page with these sites. Yes, they have big flaws, namely no downloading or downloading with DRM (and a high price tag), but if the choice is not seeing a title that I want to see versus streaming it at a VOD site then the choice is easy for me. Of course I always check a title on Videobox to see if they have it first because that's a better deal.
Excellent review. Most PU members don't seem to like VOD / PPM sites, and, as you note, there's a good reason for that: the cost can be high. I'm in my second month of a Super Pass membership here and while there are a lot of titles that aren't very good, with 8000+ videos on the SP channel there is still a lot to keep me around. I regularly use several VOD / PPM sites and I agree with you when you point out the size of AEBN. I'm sure it is bigger than several of their competitors combined.
My experience with the search function wasn't as positive as yours. I found it was pretty much useless.
Anyway, I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only AEBN fan here.
I'll admit that the cause could be a problem on their site, but try clearing your history and cookies first. I've joined both Evil Angel sites multiple times, I've joined related sites, and recently joined a new site in this group (Reality Junkies) and the discount worked for me.
I'm not a member of any Kink sites right now, but as recently as a couple of weeks ago I had no problem. I did have an account issue a few years ago and found their customer support was excellent. Send them and email and they may be able to help.
Thanks for the advice. My thought was to start with Petites because, well, that's where my interests lie. You've settled the matter. When the time comes to join, I'll start there.
I agree with your assessment of the site. I alsways skip the pre-scene interview because while it's probably there for a legal reason it can be a bit of a mood killer. I do wish that the site had stuck to Kink's BDSM theme more.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- 31 scenes
- Mix of girl/girl and boy/girl
- Typical Kink quality
- Good mix of porn stars and relative unknowns
- Videos available in multiple formats
- Photos available (singles and zips)
Cons:
- Only 31 scenes
- No longer updating
- No clear indication that the site isn’t updating
- Doesn’t have the same BDSM feel that other Kink sites have
- Price is a little high for a small site that doesn’t update
Bottom Line:
The ‘streaming’ videos on this site are excellent. Okay, okay, I’ll try to keep the pee jokes to a minimum here.
I know there are mixed thoughts here about sites that are no longer updating. Jpg386’s comment on this page certainly captures the view that a lot of PU members have on the topic. I’m with the members who think that whether a site is updating or not is just one factor in the value equation.
The site is part of the Kink.com family of sites and as such it is offered as a stand-alone site so a membership here does not give you access to any other Kink sites. Being part of the Kink network the scenes are well shot with lighting, sound and editing all being in the top tier of adult sites. Whoever manages the technical stuff sure is a real whiz. (Sorry, I couldn’t help myself…) What certainly helps too is the female talent. There are many well-known porn stars on the site, such as Amber Rayne, Flower Tucci and Annie Cruz, and there are also a lot of lesser-known models. Many of these lesser-known models (to me, anyway) also appear on other Kink sites so I presume that they’re more known as fetish models rather than mainstream stars.
The site is relatively small, offering only 31 shoots. The shoots are shorter in duration then most other Kink offerings, most being less than 30 minutes long. That certainly starts to move the value marker to making this a less than great value. Some of the scenes have a bit of a set-up where the models play a role, and others have no set up and just have people peeing on a woman. The one constant is that the scenes aren’t a peeing free-for-all: there is usually one female model who is the receiver. Having one ‘submissive’ model is really the only link that the site has with the BDSM roots of the Kink family tree. People looking for hardcore BDSM with peeing probably won’t find what they’re looking for here. Neither will people who want to see women peeing on men, because most Kink sites have dominant men and submissive women and that remains true here. Jpg386 commented that the site features “mostly a bunch of lesbo scenes where laughing girls pee on each other.” I don’t agree with that in that of the 31 scenes on the site only six are all-girl. The comment is correct, though, in that the mood in the scenes tends to be a lot lighter and less menacing than on other Kink sites. I’m not really sure why the director opted to be less BDSM-themed; it may be that Kink figured that the site was pushing the legal limits as it was and adding in a BDSM element might make the religious right go nuts. Or more nuts, I guess.
Being a Kink site, the technical stuff is well done. Each scene offers a trailer, photos and video. Video is available as a stream or downloadable as a WMV (HD), WMV, MP4 (HD) and in sizes for mobile devices. I downloaded the WMV HD scenes and they come in at 1280x720 at 7200kb/s and 30fps. They’re in Codec 9. Subjectively they look great.
The photos are available in two resolutions (800x533 and 1200x800). They’re available as singles or zipped. While these resolutions aren’t great, you have to consider that the most recent ones were shot at least three years ago when these would have been excellent quality. Which leads me to the biggest negative of the site…
Pissing.com is no longer updating and hasn’t added a new scene in about three years. I can understand that a site may stop updating and I’m not going to fault a site owner for making a business decision to stop shooting for a site, but I do wish that Kink was a bit more open about the fact that the site is no longer active. Back when Kink stopped shooting for Water Bondage they had a disclaimer that the site was no longer updating (but it seems that they’re trying to revive it). Eventually that disclaimer was removed. Same for Pissing.com. To make matters worse, Kink stopped listing the dates of the shoots so it is almost impossible for a prospective member to know that the site is no longer adding new material. This seems strange for a company that otherwise does everything else right and has a reputation for treating their customers well.
So is the site worth a look? I think so, but a person should consider the value for themselves. I’ve had memberships at similar themed sites before and can say that the Kink way of doing things means that Pissing.com is pretty much the number one site for number one. (Sorry again… that’ll be the last joke.) There are 31 great scenes that look good and are available in most ways a member would want them. I do hope that they’ll reactivate the site some day, and until then I do wish they’d be more open about the site’s status. Until they start filming again, they should lower the price to better reflect the true value of a small, inactive site. But even with that caveat, if you like this niche, I’d recommend the site for sure.
Jesus H. Tapdancing Christ! Terrible question! Now I need to find some images of a young, shaved lovely to get the image of a hairy woman out of my mind!
That's really helpful. Thanks for taking the time to provide such a detailed response. I was hoping that the answer was that the DVDs are part of the site, but at least I now know that they aren't.
If you had to recommend one of the ATK sites, which would it be?
And thanks for the tip on the Kick Ass Pass site. I'll defineitely have a look at that.
Hmmm... if you're annoyed at the file size, wait until how happy you are when they cut you off for having the audacity to download several of them in one day.
Several of us here had the download cap imposed on us and several didn't. I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting to hear how you make out with this. Please let us know when you can.
Interesting review, exotics. I liked how you differentiated between a score for previous members and one for first-timers. I've never had a membership to any of the ATK sites but they've always been on my list of possibles.
You may be able to answer a question though... The studio Kick Ass Pictures has a series of DVD releases that seem to be affilaited with ATK. The Kick Ass DVDs seem to feature a lot of mainstream U.S. pornstars where the sites seem to have models who are unknown to me. Do you see any evidence that any of the KAP scenes are on ATK sites? And are there mainstream porn models on the ATK sites? I guess that's actually two questions... I've looked through several of the ATK sites and I find the tour pages don't help with these questions. Any advice will be appreciated.
Great review! I was interested to read this as soon as I saw it posted because this is one of my favourite sites on the 'net.
I agree with most of what you say, but I strongly agree with your wish that Kink offered some kind of membership that allowed access to multiple sites. My suspicion is that they don't do this because the sites appear to be stand-alone and run by a different crew for each. That might make sharing membership fees a little more difficult, but certainly not impossible.
You probably know these things, but, just in case some other readers aren't aware:
1) when you're a Kink member at one site you get discounts to other Kink sites,
2) make sure to register your email with them. They sometimes offer great deals to email subscribers, and
3) Videobox has a Kink channel with a blend of a lot of stuff from most Kink sites. The bad news is that to even see what the channel has to offer you need to be a VB member. The good news is that the monthly fee for the Kink channel is pro-rated for the month of your VB membership. If you join the Kink channel in week three of the VB membership you'll only pay for the one week provided you cancel VB after the month.
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