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exotics4me (0) 12-24-17  12:52am
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Status: Current Member for over 3 months (at the time of review).
Pros: - Still a unique site that has seen its better days.
- Women wrestling. Stripping each other's clothes off. Force-groping each other. Fingering each other for "points".
- If you're a Dragon Lily or Isis Love fan, then that's a major pro for this site as there's lots of content of them.
- Kink quality and overall experience, lots of scrolling, slightly hidden tricks (see comment didn't fit in BL), access to the Kink network and its near 50 sites.
- This should have been my top pro. The live content. It blows away the studio content. See cons.
- Zipped pictures are back, 1200 long end, but at least they're back.
- More content than you'd believe. As of 12/24/2017: 975 scenes.
- Good download speeds, about 75% of my max.
- Navigation is a con if you're new. If you've been here awhile it's not bad at all.
- Site updates once a week, network updates 3 times a day.
Cons: - That live content hasn't been added in a long time. To the best I can tell, the last live "match" was in August 2016. If I shared my 10 favorite scenes from this site all 10 would be live matches. I'll go more into those in the BL.
- As is the norm with Kink, the highest quality videos are 720p, which I prefer anyway, but could be a turn-off for others. Should mention that most of their scenes are in the hour or longer range, so anything over 720p is going to be a huge file.
- They're having a hard time replacing old favorites on Ultimate Surrender.
Bottom Line: I first heard of or saw Ultimate Surrender content on an old TGP site back over a decade ago. It looked interesting. I have a fairly-long background in martial arts, even dating back to before anyone had heard of UFC. The premise of the site, in the old days, was unplanned, unscripted, "wrestling" matches. Think more like MMA or Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu or in even more specific terms -- grappling.

I didn't have the best experience talking to one of their producers back in the mid-2000s. I found it insulting to claim unscripted. It's obvious, we're going to compare this to pro wrestling, which doesn't even try to claim unscripted. I felt it showed dishonesty and in turn, I don't do business with dishonest companies.

To understand my frustration with it, I know one of the models, went to high school with her in Los Angeles. She's one of the sweetest, most-artsy, least-athletic women I've ever known. And for most of her match, she dominated her opponent. There is a point with a site like this that fantasy has to go away or else it's not that interesting for 2/3 of each scene.

Kink started growing and while they still threw out the word "unscripted", they obviously followed the lead of professional wrestling and developed "heels" and "babyfaces". Dragon Lily played a major role as a heel. A fairly well-trained grappler with a great traditional female build and she would wipe out her opponents. Then they'd find someone who would come in and beat Dragon Lily. They even expanded the Dragon Lily streak of dominance by having her dominate men. I personally would be up for that role.

Which is important to my review. I like dominant women. I don't care if it's scripted either. They later brought in Isis Love, who was as good maybe better than Dragon Lily at the top "bad girl" role.

They then decided to try something new. The matches were becoming stale. All were held in the same room of the Kink Dungeon or whatever it's called. Two women usually grunting (not sexually), skin slapping in a completely quiet room.

They brought in a live crowd. Completely changed the way these scenes are viewed. And these weren't crowds of other porn stars. There's older women, older men, middle-aged people, look like random people off the street and they all watch and respond as these women grapple and try to grope each other. They could have produced one live scene a month and I would have loved it. Even with no other updates! Just 1 live one a month, but they only did the live scenes for a short period of time.

The numbers of this site aren't much to talk about. They're impressive: Nearly 1,000 scenes and all roughly lasting 45 minutes or so. The 720p videos, for whatever reason, Kink does a great job at filming, look crisp. But that's really all there is to talk about the site except the concepts and gimmicks (live).

To show the continuity they formed with certain models:
Dragon Lily's first Ultimate Surrender match was posted on August 10, 2004. She stayed active in the matches through April 1, 2014 and made a one-time comeback in 2015.
To a lesser extent:
Isis Love's first match was posted on February 8, 2005 and her last match was posted on September 3, 2013.

My favorite scene was Isis' return. She had been away for awhile. It's a live scene. She's in the crowd as a spectator and I didn't even realize it was her at first. She starts squeezing her thighs together as she's watching the women wrestling. She ends up being involved as one of the wrestlers is made to flirt/tease her. This drops the sexual action right into the middle of the crowd. It was like Kink's Public Disgrace site except it was to most viewers, a non-porn star spreading her legs in front of strangers. One of my all-time favorite scenes from any site.

Which explains the 83. No live scenes in over a year and those live scenes, while "live" weren't like the live scenes from I think 2011-2014, the newer live scenes are back in the same dull room just with a row of people sitting off the side of the wrestling mat. The older live scenes were much higher energy and the crowds reactions were big pluses.

And the 83 is because the newer models just aren't as believable. It's like watching a lesbian scene that has 30 minutes of fluff at the beginning. I hate using wrestling terms, but there's no "heat", meaning, the competition, even scripted, is no longer there. Daisy Ducati does a good job in her matches, but she seems to be about getting off as much as getting the other woman off. Which is a selling point of a site like this. Isis, Dragon Lily, they would finger, strap-on the woman they beat and stop when she started to orgasm.

It's still worth the price since you can still download all those older scenes, including all the live ones, but currently, it updates once a week and the updates are interchangeable. Having been about as negative as I'll be in a review, I still will say the Kink Network is the best deal in porn.

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rearadmiral (0) Your review was interesting to read. Ultimate Surrender is one of the few Kink sites that I've never really gotten into. It's a niche that doesn't really do anything for me and since it is all-girl that's a downside for me too. But for those who like this niche I have to recognize that if anyone is going to do it right it would be Kink.
12-28-17  05:57am

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