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exotics4me (0) 09-10-12  05:38pm
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Status: Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros: - Women wrestling, clothed, partially clothed and nude. One of Kink's oldest sites.
- Has more content than I'll ever get to.
- Tag team live matches in front of a crowd are some of my favorite scenes in all of pornland.
- Working Isis Love in as ref and extra strap-on is a great idea. I could just watch her walk around.
- Scripted and non-scripted are very subjective words, but I will give them credit for being the most physical of the wrestling sites.
- Nice photo sets, but see the cons and BL for more on this.
- Download speeds are usually extremely good, but there was one day of 1/20th regular download speed and just today the site had a few maintenance issues.
- Dragon Lily. It's not just a site with her on it, but she's a real star here. One of the sexiest, curvy, Asian/Pacific Islander models I've ever seen.
- Get a discount to most of their other sites while a member, believe it's $19.95 on each one you add.
Cons: - Site design. This doesn't just apply to Ultimate Surrender, but most of the Kink sites I've been on. Have a membership to two right now and both suffer from the same problems.
- Trying to find a balance. I've competed in martial arts, Greco Roman wrestling and mixed martial arts. Dragon Lily really stands out here because she seems to be very skilled in grappling and flexibility. The combination of athleticism and sexy is perfect with her. A lot of the matches end up being more like foreplay for a lesbian porn scene.
- And those mutli-zip photo sets. There is a reason and defined reason for this, round 1, round 2, round 3, round 4, but each one is only 10-20 MB and requires multiple clicks to download each. I have a round downloaded before I can get back and start another round's zips downloading.
Bottom Line: I like Kink sites as a diversion for me. I've almost always liked only glam sites, solo sites, but Kink has me convinced they are "good guys" when it comes to hard, dominating sex and they are perfect for me when I start getting bored with the softer porn.

I do stay frustrated with the site design and the way the photo zips work. Kink does listen so I'm hoping they at least will consider this. To download one match's photos you have to go through this process, click on photos, click on which round, there are 4 rounds in each match, click on download zip, back click, click on round 2, click download, back click, click on round 3, click on download, back click, click on round 4, click download, back click. That's 12 clicks to get one full match's photos. If I'm wrong for complaining about that have Dragon Lily and Isis Love punish me!

This click-a-thon does make the photo sets less appealing to me. Maybe put a full set download link? Or how about even a little zip icon beside each round? Full set would allow one click downloading. Zip icon beside each would be 4 clicks. I could put up with 4, but 12 is just frustrating. Though not applying directly to this site, I've also seen other Kink sites using this multiple click per photo set download.

The site itself is believable to a point. Some of the girls look like they are giving their all to win a match, others look like they just want to lose and have sex. Dragon Lily, Isis Love are both very competitive in it and both are also funny. Sorry Lily, but you telling a woman, "You cannot cum yet" is funny to me and strangely, kind of cute.

The live matches are the standouts. These do seem to be a little less realistic from a competitive view, because they allow double teams, which are always fun. I won't criticize the site for being scripted though. Girls do get injured. Some matches stopped because of injury even.

Where the site succeeds the most. Quality, quantity and hard lesbian sex. I have always had problems watching the harder boy/girl scenes with slapping, but it's pretty hot when it's two sweating, naked women. I do now understand the scoring better than I did on my last review of this site and can see how they are trying to create a real athletic competition with erotic additions.

Video quality can be varied and confusing, which goes back to site design. These are the options on newer ones, Most Compatible (wmv), Highest Quality HD (mp4), Smaller Screens iPod, iPad (mp4), Windows Media HD (wmv). Some of the times, I have downloaded the most compatible option and gotten mid level wmv files in the 720x480 range. So I finally just selected Highest Quality mp4 and it will remember that from scene to scene, but because the site has so much content on it, some of the scenes highest quality mp4 is 640x360. That can be frustrating since on those, the wmv is usually 720x480. It would probably be way too much of a pain to list the resolution beside of each, but it should be mentioned since you have to check each file to see if you got the best quality one available for that scene.

Search could be improved. If you go to "All Seasons" there are 8 listed previous seasons, but they have started season 10. Most of all though, I would love to see an option to just select the live scenes, but it's not here unless I'm overlooking something. I instead go through the updates looking for ones I can see a crowd in. Sounds easy enough, but each page only lists 7 shoots and the live ones are released by round, so you have to dig even more to find the full live scenes and if you want the pictures to those, it's back to looking for each round. Why the full scene video download doesn't have a full scene photo zip download doesn't make much sense.

The Kink sites I have been on all have these different problems with photo sets being split up to maybe tell a story or make sure if you're not OCDC, you will be. The design and frustration has lowered my score from a 90 a few years ago, but if you're not interested in the photos, the score would be in the lower 90s.

Using my most basic method of figuring up how much content, I'm going to multiply the number of pages of updates multiplied by how many scenes per page. There are 84 pages of updates, 7 scenes per page, so that's 588, but the live ones are split, so the number isn't that high. The site has updates dating back to 2004, they update every week.

The live scenes are what brings me back though. Having Isis being more active as a ref, joining in the sex part has really helped the site. Her performance as an unknowing spectator in one live scene is my personal favorite scene of my porn collection.

It's different, it's the hardest lesbian content I've found and it even has some genuine laughs in it. Once you get beyond the site design problems and search issues, you have one of the most original sites on the internet. Recommended to those who are looking for something different and lesbian fans.

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rearadmiral (0) Interesting review. I'm a huge Kink fan too and have a couple of memberships on the go now as well. This is one of the Kink sites that intrigued me but that I've never taken the plunge and joined because I'm not certain if I'd like it. What I did a while back was when I had a Videobox membership I waited until the last days of my monthly membership and joined the Kink Channel for the pro-rated price and downloaded all the Ultimate Surrender stuff there. I'm glad I did it that way, because while this site brings all the usual high-quality aspects that Kink is known for, the niche just isn't for me.

I agree with your negative comments about Kink, but I assess them differently, I guess. The site navigation is basic on all their sites, but given that each site is such a narrow niche I don't find that an issue.

One thing I definitely agree with you on is the need for a zip file for ALL the photos in a set. I don't download photos much, but Kink's approach needs to be rethought.

09-10-12  06:18pm

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Tree Rodent (0) Super review! Good to see you still around, exotics.
09-11-12  07:46am

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nygiants03 (0) thanks for this review... very detailed
09-16-12  10:06am

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exotics4me (0) REPLY TO #3 - nygiants03 :

Thanks. Good to see you around, been a long time.
10-08-12  01:55pm

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exotics4me (0) REPLY TO #1 - rearadmiral :

I used the same strategy you did on VB and added the Kink channel in the last week of a membership back about 5 months ago. That opened my mind back up on Ultimate Surrender since I hadn't seen any of their live sites until joining the Kink channel on VB. Even after a few months have passed now, I still find the scenes with the models I like, very good. But there are really only two models that I really liked, Dragon Lily and Isis Love. I'm not even for sure I like either of them for their skill in grappling, but instead, Dragon for being a very curvy Asian model which is rare in my experience and Isis for being so pretty, yet so dominant.

The navigation problems became more evident on Divine Bitches since there was no way to tell which scenes were just straight domination or ones that involved bisexual men. And with Ultimate Surrender, a simple "Live" tag system would make a huge difference. I just gave up on the photo sets which ended up disappointing me even more since I would have liked to get the Dragon Lily and Isis pictures. On the other hand, I still feel like Kink has improved a great deal over their earlier days when they had download limits that made most download limits today look huge. Hard to believe they used to limit members to 10 GB per month. And I'm thinking that's why they originally split the photo sets like they do. Since the limit was so low, I guess people complained they didn't want the full sets since it would be a bigger file.

10-08-12  02:31pm

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rearadmiral (0) REPLY TO #5 - exotics4me :

I had no idea that Kink used to have download limits. I'm glad I stumbled on them after those were lifted because I probably would never have gone back. I agree that they could improve their navigation. One thing they're doing on The Training of O lately is to name day 1 something that isn't related to days 2 through 4 so you have to work to put the sets together.

10GB a month... I'm glad that's gone!

10-08-12  03:00pm

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