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pat362 (0)
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I read your review and I honestly don't see where you put any info to justify giving the site a score of 60. In fact I'd say that what you wrote points to a much higher score. It's clear that you are pissed at something but since you mention something about cancelling than I'm not sure what the problem.
I was a member last month and it's not my first time and I have never had one problem with joining or cancelling and although their total output of new scenes is less than it was a few years ago. They are part of a small group of European sites still putting out scenes on a regular basis and I'd add that they have amazing streaming and download options.
You are entitled to your review and your score but I'm afraid that I can't refer to it if I want a proper assessment of this network.
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03-22-14 09:52am
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Schirm (Suspended)
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REPLY TO #1 - pat362 :
Well.... 60 is still a recommendation score.
And I think I was pretty clear about the downsides: rehashing a scene to fit a site and then not easy to find the original is for me a downside.
And even if some scenes are really good, the total does not really represent quality to me. Lots of rehashes and solo scenes dont justify the price.
But the decisive point is of course the cancellation problems I faced. I really mean it: there is NO excuse to ask for credit card details on an non-encrypted connection.
In my opinion it reflects back on DFF since I cannot choose billing company and the one selected for me was not secure.
DFF support failed this time and it of course reflects on my review
Porn sites is not just about content - its about customer care. The sites lacks and is outdated in my opinion.
Since pat has not shared my experience I see no problem for him to be more postive. But please respect that my opinion is sincere.
It should be up to the customer to choose biller - when a site like DDF makes that choice for me then there is simply no excuse.
Overrated is my experience, if pat is happy with what he gets then we are both helping the site the best we can.
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03-22-14 12:19pm
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pat362 (0)
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REPLY TO #2 - Schirm :
You have to help me understand how you scored the network because I'm more confused now than I was. Unless I'm missing something than you enjoyed the bulk of content the two hardcore DDF sites have to offer.
That would be Hands on Hardcore and House of Taboo. The only other site to offer midcore to hardcore stuff is Euro Teen Erotica but that is mostly all leased stuff so not really exclusive to DDF.
Am I wrong when I say that you didn't enjoy only Blowjob because you couldn`t find the complete scene and not because of the actual content?
You find their platform and search option to be outdated. You have to give me the site you used for reference because I find that DDF has one of the best search engine around. They tag their scenes with so many keywords that you can search something as simple as the models name all the way to whether there were any G-strings in the scene. You can even search by year of release.
I'm willing to give you that the softcore and solo stuff outnumbers the hardcore stuff but these guys still update with at least one new hardcore scene each day. I'm a member of a couple of sites that only update once a week.
I think you have some valid points on a couple of their sites and if you had only reviewed these as opposed to the network than that would be fine but you gave the entire network a bad score.
I don't think we will agree on this but that's all right because we don't have to. I look forward to reading some of your other reviews.
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03-22-14 06:25pm
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Schirm (Suspended)
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REPLY TO #3 - pat362 :
Dear Pat
You are so right and obviously we dont agree.
Yes you are wrong - rehash a video and call it something else to inflate a site does not score quality points with me.
And no, I dont have to give you such comparison sites for a very simple reason: I review DDF that for what I see and I dont know that many other sites yet. Unlike you, I found their search system lacking and not that helpful when I used it.
As for content on the their other sites - no I didnt like those much.
Regarding their platform being outdated: may I please refer you to the comment/question I made which Ace replied to state my point.
To be frank, pat, I really dont understand your need to raise the score for DDF, a site that in some sense tries to cheat its customers by unsecure billers and a customer support that sucks when their customers ask for help to cancel. Just because you never had a problem does not entitle you to be forgiving when it happens to others.
And finally Pat, please show better respect for those opinions that differs from yours. Im not here to make you happy or promote DDF, and I am entitled to my own opinions just as you are.
DDF is in my opinion really not a good site and you seem to overrate it. Thank you for finding some of my points valid.
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03-22-14 10:43pm
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Tree Rodent (0)
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REPLY TO #4 - Schirm :
"To be frank, pat, I really dont understand your need to raise the score for DDF, a site that in some sense tries to cheat its customers by unsecure billers and a customer support that sucks when their customers ask for help to cancel."
This we both agree on. Not that there's now a shortage of sites out there who are wiling to cheat customers. Nowadays signing up to a pay site and giving your credit card details is a highly risky affair. DDF don't deserve more than that score given the experience you could have with them.
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03-23-14 07:10am
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Monahan (0)
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Although I have been a fan of the DDF sites and score them high primarily for the quality of their content and frequency of good updates, I totally agree with you that the scoring of a site is a personal matter and is based on a member's personal experience and criteria.
I've been in a similar situation with 21Sextury. They have excellent content and abysmal ethics. In particular their "guarantees" are meaningless and their pricing is deceptive and opportunistic.
My current score for 21Sextury is also a 60 because I feel that a long term patron of a long established porn site should be able to expect that the offered product is delivered as promised.
The major difference between your experience with DDF and mine with 21Sextury is that I did get into an email discussion with the webmaster of Sextury21. He eventually conceded that the original (lifetime) offer was being withdrawn unilaterally by them because their "business model" was being adjusted.
I now consider them to be a 60 (10 points above the minimum) because I find their content to be exceptional (they send out samples every now and then). But the other elements cannot be evaluated because I refuse to send them another penny so I have no ability to judge what they are now doing.
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03-23-14 02:16pm
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