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| 04-01-09 03:20pm - 5651 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Fake Breasts! I can't believe it, Fifth Element actually offers a DVD called 100% "Made In Beverley Hills" referring to the false breasts of every single one of the models. Videosz, releasing this abomination today, boldly states: "When you love big boobs this much, who gives a shit if they're real?" My question is: Is there anyone in this forum who could honestly say they would buy/rent a video where all the models' breasts are fake? And if you would, why would you? What the heck is the attraction when it comes to watching or fondling bags of silicone implanted under the skin. Is there now a silicone fetish I'm not aware of? :-) | |
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| 04-01-09 04:17pm - 5651 days | #2 | |
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exotics4me (0)
Active User  Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
To answer the question, I would still rent or watch a video with all fake boobs. The reason, I'm not a boob lover, little, big, fake, doesn't really matter to me. You know me well enough on here to know that I like all-natural curvy glam models, but the fake boobs wouldn't stop me since I am indifferent to boobs. A few models that have fake boobs that are in my favorites. One is Sandra Shine, most people do not know or realize that Sandra has implants, her boobs with implants look natural because the rest of her body fits them. Look her up sometime and see if you can tell she has implants. The other is Heather Vandeven, hers are a bit more noticeable, but her implants only look to be B or C cup, she is slim and I would guess probably had A cups to start with. She is easily one of my favorites, probably my favorite American model. Heather makes my point better than any implant model. Her newest sets with redhair, can see samples on freeones, she has beautiful hair, a pretty face, great eyes, long nice legs, small but cute butt. Her only con is the fake boobs, and since I'm not a boob lover, that doesn't even rank as a con for me. Remember, there is more to beauty than boobs! Edit: Forgot something, a few models, Zafira comes to mind, have recently had implants because of "uneven" breasts. So we could be talking about esteem issues that these women had before they even entered porn. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk Edited on Apr 01, 2009, 04:24pm | |
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| 04-01-09 05:54pm - 5650 days | #3 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User  Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
For me, fake breast are a total turn off. I would rather no breasts at all than fake ones. If they are fake it is, to me, as though they have been cut off, and are no longer a thing of sexual interest or beauty. That's just me. There's no right or wrong on this. I don't think there's anything wrong with anyone who loves fake breasts, it's just I find them ugly, like a bad mutilation. The model can still be beautiful but, in my eyes, she has a mutilation. | |
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| 04-01-09 06:28pm - 5650 days | #4 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
While I like nice breasts, hopefully with just a bit of a natural sag to them (you can tell I like mature), I don't like a model for her boobs nor am I particularly interested in them except as a part of the whole picture, but those artificial looking cones stuck on the chest practically draw your eyes to them and take away from the beauty of the whole person. I agree that there might be some who had a marvelous job done with their breasts but this latest release brags about the big breasts on the models and those usually look over-inflated, to a point where the nipples have been completely flattened out. I'd rather have a look at an a-cup than something that bizarre. | |
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| 04-01-09 06:37pm - 5650 days | #5 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I am starting to get the feeling that we think alike in many respects. Maybe it's my European background, there the big breasts fetish never really caught on. I know that on late night TV I turn off any scene instantly the moment one of those BIG stars starts taking down her top to reveal those artificial balloons. Another reason why I appreciate Anilos is because they will actually list which model has artificial breasts and which model is natural. Saves me a lot of download time. | |
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| 04-01-09 06:46pm - 5650 days | #6 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
More and more, it's getting to be a problem. There was a time when the number of performers with bolt-on's was a tiny minority. That is not the case anymore. What's even worse is that those getting them weren't exactly sporting A & B cups in the first place but I've seen some C cups get bolt-on's. I prefer small breast, but I've seen some natural C & D cups that were amazing looking. It doesn't matter if the doctor is a genius and the job he does is spotless. Fake breast almost always look like fake breast. Maybe somebody will one day invent an implant that can fool most men, but I rather doubt it. Possibly the biggest problem is that most performers don't get a minor size enlargement but get the equivalent of the Goodyear Blimp of breast implants. I respect anyone's right to alter their body for whatever reason they may choose, but isn't it funny that once the bolt-ons appear that many other alterations follow. There are some performers that reappear and that I recognize only because of the name. I think the best thing anyone can do in this situation is let our wallet do all the talking. If you don't like fake breast then do not buy the product. Sooner or later the sales of dvds that contain performers with large fake breast will simply fall off the charts. As long as we buy the products then the trend will continue. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 04-01-09 07:42pm - 5650 days | #7 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
You said it all, Pat! Trouble is many people like those over-sized breasts and I've seen documentaries where husbands and boyfriends actually talked their loved ones into getting implants. It's THEIR minds I'd like to get into. And into the minds of the girls/women who think that this particular operation actually makes them more desirable. | |
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| 04-01-09 09:25pm - 5650 days | #8 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I am not a boob lover -- though I definitely don't hate them! -- but I would think if you really love them then you would give a shit if they were real. For example, I like redheads, but I really don't like it when the hair is dyed, and, like breasts, it is usually quite easy to spot. There is a fetish for pretty much anything our sick and twisted hearts desire, so I am sure there are some out there who like the siliconized tits instead of the real thing. I like shaved girls, such as the ones at ALSScan (who are strongly anti-implant), and I can understand people interpreting that as being unnatural, but I also see it as a far more temporary look, especially when compared to tattoos or surgery. I do happen to have a thing for nipples and areolae though (and only on real breasts), but I think they are overlooked in the quest for "nice" breasts, where numbers are what seem to be most important. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 04-01-09 11:37pm - 5650 days | #9 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
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| 04-01-09 11:53pm - 5650 days | #10 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Some people don't care whether the breasts are natural or implants. Hugh Hefner (Playboy Magazine) likes large breasts, whether they are natural or not. You can infer that from the playmates the magazine chooses, as well as the girlfriends Hefner chooses. Personally, I prefer natural to implants. Also I don't like huge, over-sized breasts that some people see as a turn-on. But personal tastes, especially in porn, vary. Messmer writes, "Videosz, releasing this abomination today, boldly states: 'When you love big boobs this much, who gives a shit if they're real?'" One of the points of advertising is to grab our attention: It certainly grabbed messmer's. As for the DVD called "100% Made In Beverley Hills", I wouldn't bother watching it, even if it were free. | |
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| 04-02-09 06:12am - 5650 days | #11 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Just to continue on the theme of mutilation and alteration, (yes I know I've said this before) but to me those tattoos look like cancerous growths most of the time. So maybe those models with fake breasts and tattoos belong on some weird fetish site. I think I'll start one. Hmm...let's call it..."Brazzers." Brilliant. Sounds good. I bet no one has thought of that yet. Edited on Apr 02, 2009, 06:17am | |
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| 04-02-09 06:47am - 5650 days | #12 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
I'm a big fan of the Message Board/Forum at Freeones.com, because it is so heavily traffic'd that there is an immense amount of participation and every fetish under the sun talked about. One of the most popular forum topics there for a long time has been "Plastic/Barbie Girls" - guys looking for the most man-made babes around. Those guys - and there's a lot of them - would be all over a DVD that advertised that it was all about great-looking fake boobs. | |
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| 04-02-09 08:32am - 5650 days | #13 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Now that is really disturbing, Pink Panther! Those guys must have played almost exclusively with Barbie Dolls when they were kids. It's the only explanation! :-) | |
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| 04-02-09 08:40am - 5650 days | #14 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I made the mistake of subscribing to the Playboy Channel once and unsubscribed very quickly because every model seemed to have large, unnatural looking breasts. I think "Heff" has done a lot of damage because in an interview I watched the other day a porn star said that implants were a must if you wanted to reach the top in the business. Don't those guys who like artificial notice the scars or in the case of really bad jobs the actual outline of the silicone bags under the skin, or the way the porn stars have to hold on to their breasts during heavy action, lest they take flight because of the extra weight? :-) | |
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| 04-02-09 08:43am - 5650 days | #15 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
LOL. I'm willing to bet that you would be quite successful with a site like that. Talking about tattoos, man, they are getting bigger by the day: whole arms, whole legs. Body art, arghh, when the natural body of a woman is so beautiful! | |
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| 04-02-09 09:49am - 5650 days | #16 | |
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monty2222 (0)
Active User  Posts: 49 Registered: Feb 20, '09 Location: Denmark |
Salvation? From article: "A STEM cell therapy offering "natural" breast enlargement is to be made available to British women for the first time. The treatment could boost cup size while reducing stomach fat. It involves extracting stem cells from spare fat on the stomach or thighs and growing them in a woman's breasts. An increase of one cup size is likely, with the potential for larger gains as the technique improves." | |
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| 04-02-09 09:49am - 5650 days | #17 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
I think there was an earlier poll about tattoos. I just don't like them, even the smaller tattoos. Natural is so much better. For tattoos, body ugly is more accurate than body art. | |
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| 04-02-09 12:40pm - 5650 days | #18 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
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| 04-02-09 07:09pm - 5649 days | #19 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I think science should spend it's time looking to better the human condition and less time on dubious research on making women's breast larger. What I find strangest of all is that women complain all the time that finding the right bra is so difficult. Then why would you once you have a bra get breast that will require you to restart the process of looking for one again??? Take a look at the movie Gattaca for a glimpse at that possible future. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 04-02-09 07:38pm - 5649 days | #20 | |
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GCode (0)
Active User  Posts: 386 Registered: Feb 23, '09 Location: USA |
I suppose I'm gonna stir up controversy about the tattoos. I for one, do not mind tattoos at all. I'm guessing you all are talking about sleeves or at least a lot of them on a girl's body? I will admit, that the pointless "Tramp Stamp" (lower back tattoo, above the ass) on a woman I find quite unattractive because I know these women get that shit because they want to be part of a fad which has taken over by storm. However, I suppose from being around a lot of the more 'artsy' girls, I understand tattoos on a woman and I find it attractive. I suppose it's the first hand exposure that makes it more appealing to me. But, in no means, do I especially look for it in porn. I dated a girl in college that had a full sleeve and neck tattoos, and it didn't bother me. I don't want to stir things up, but do you guys think that maybe being a bit older in this day and age has something to do with it? I for one, can say, that being in my 20's, a tattoo on anyone is so normal nowadays I hardly even think about it anymore. The main thing I can see as being a total turn off is like full body tattoos which maybe you are all talking about? Sexted From My iPad | |
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| 04-02-09 10:11pm - 5649 days | #21 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
This is why I am getting so damn tired of tattoos: because so many people are doing it, it is now "normal," which to me means boring and cliche. I am in my 20s too, but I have become so sick of normal trends that I now fantasize about girls with natural breasts and no tattoos -- that includes all shapes and sizes of butterflies, flowers, lettering, and especially stamps. I am so conditioned to the fake breast look that I pretty much prefer the A to B size range, with an occasional C, just because our society now believes C and above is the norm, whether it be by birth or by surgery. I find it more disgusting that girls will pump their lips full of chemicals, shove silicone in their chest, or just irradiate themselves until they glow, then a girl who, say, admits to liking anal, or something more on the taboo side of things (take your pick here). I don't just see implants as unattractive, but genuinely unsafe and unhealthy, just as much as all the tobacco and alcohol products many models freely admit to consuming. I wonder how we have gotten to this point where the result of completely unnecessary surgery has become such a huge turn-on for so many. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 04-03-09 06:01am - 5649 days | #22 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User  Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
Seeing how the topic sort of strayed off toward tattoos for a bit and then this health comment, well I wanted to point out that Tattoos also aren't the safest things health-wise. There indeed is a good reason you can get banned from giving blood for a while after getting a tattoo. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 04-03-09 06:09am - 5649 days | #23 | |
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jd1961 (0)
Active User  Posts: 296 Registered: Jun 07, '07 |
Brazzers is a good site, but oh my! Every time I check in there I feel like I'm in a 1990's time machine. Big water balloons with long ugly scars---freakish stuff. | |
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| 04-03-09 06:12am - 5649 days | #24 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
Well, returning to the original topic, I suppose I can say I would. Several things point to this, not least of which is that I'm pretty sure a few of my porn DVDs indeed feature nothing but surgically augmented models. Secondly, I've joined the Brazzers Network and the vast majority of their content features augmented breasts. I certainly can't say it is my preferred choice of model, but porn produced with said models can still be good fun. I sort of see it as a guilty pleasure - the Cheetos of porn if you will. Sure it is unsatisfying in the long term, but sometimes you have to marvel at sheer ridiculousness of it all. I certainly have no interest in "fondling bags of silicone" but then again, I'm not exactly fondling these things. I'm at most watching them be fondled or more like watching them not move much while the attached model is being plowed by the woodsman of choice. Everything is overdone, fake and repetitive, but I still occasionally eat at McDonald's because it is fast, easy and gets the job done. Nothing to be proud of, really it is more of a sad fact. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 04-03-09 06:29am - 5649 days | #25 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
I prefer Burger King to McDonald's. Burger King has a special, 2 whoppers for about $3, which is a pretty good price. Also, it's easier to get refills on the coffee at Burger King, which has the coffee machine where the customer is able to get to it. McDonald's used to have their coffee out where the customer could refill himself, but no longer. At least where I live. I don't feel sad going to Burger King. I feel good, knowing I'm trying to save money. Not as good as viewing some great porn, but still, I try to look on the bright side, at least once in a while. It's the little things in life that you learn to treasure, as you get older. Lol. | |
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| 04-03-09 06:47am - 5649 days | #26 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
Haha, yeah Burger King is way better food than McDonald's though that was really my point. Occasionally one eats at McD's but it eventually ends up punishing you. Burger King is indeed tasty and while you can eat there relatively cheaply, I tend to always burn a good amount of cash anytime I go because I love that damned Mushroom Swiss Burger. BK is the fucking siren that calls me to the rocky shores of fast food when I've been good and been making my own food. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 04-03-09 09:56am - 5649 days | #27 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I'm afraid I am not a detached observer when it comes to the ridiculous things porn stars do, like having balloons for breasts. I have never looked at porn as an amusement, something to chuckle over (well, I did in the case of "Deep Throat," but that was an exception and I was younger then), to me porn is serious business! The moment I see silicone my sexual excitement meter plummets. :-) I don't watch videos with little people or folks completely wrapped in latex either, for the same reason. It's just too grotesque for my taste ... give me natural, un-pierced and free of tattoos any time. But that's me ... and to add to my anguish, on top of a silicone fetish we now even have a smoking fetish, for Pete's sake!! And I haven't even started on the pantyhose fetish which to me is really incomprehensible because they are entirely too practical and single-handedly destroyed sex as we knew it because they did away with all those wonderful frilly garter belts and stockings and hopes of getting a glimpse of panties when the wind was right. Okay, I am done now, thank you for letting me rave on and for lending me an ear! :-) | |
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| 04-03-09 10:16am - 5649 days | #28 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
What a lot of funny, great, hillarious, extreme inputs in this thread. But back to messmers start: No! "fondling bags of silicone" is NOT the answer to the attraction of fine breasts. Fetish or not - tits are also non-fetish - good breasts on a model has a lot to do with the attraction itself. Fake or natural. BUT there is a lot of difference between models who do "oversized" and models who make a cute, fine, sensetive change - no matter what size you prefer. Some of the finest (again euro-models) has made those ok-changes - whereas a lot of US-models seems to have that old "playboy-syndrome": the bigger, the better. It's certainly not all US-models, but guess the "problem" is more outspoken among those models... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" | |
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| 04-03-09 11:35am - 5649 days | #29 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I probably have all kinds of models in my collection that have made discrete, small corrections. If one doesn't notice them, that's fine. It's those Barbie super-boobs that tend to give lovers of natural women nightmares! :-) | |
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| 04-03-09 03:36pm - 5649 days | #30 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
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| 04-03-09 04:34pm - 5649 days | #31 | |
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Goldfish (0)
Active User  Posts: 265 Registered: Jan 19, '08 Location: Boston, MA |
Natural breasts all the way! In the 90's I got used to seeing fake breasts so often in those movies from the big studios out in CA (which was all I had seen at the time) that I could tolerate it. After discovering Internet porn I've found I much prefer proportional, natural breasts on the porn models. I'm similar to pat362 in that I prefer small to medium breasts but even larger breasts can be desirable as long as they're natural. With the popularity of the amateur porn I'm surprised those CA studios still have so many enhanced girls on their rosters. | |
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| 04-03-09 04:48pm - 5649 days | #32 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Yes, I think it is at least 12 months from your last tattoo. Even piercings are not totally safe, especially the riskier genital and tongue ones, though I cannot think of one girl with no piercings whatsoever (including ears). Also, I would imagine the larger breast implants to be a strain on your back after having them for a while, not to mention all the implant-fetish dudes straining their necks just to see them, but that is what they are for anyways. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 04-03-09 06:57pm - 5648 days | #33 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
In Quebec, Canada it is 6 months before you are allowed to give blood once you've received a tattoo or a piercing. Two of the most dangerous places to get a piercing are the tongue and the belly button. I'd forgotten about the back problems common to women with larger breast. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 04-03-09 11:26pm - 5648 days | #34 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
One of the more disturbing aspects of the Fake Boob craze is the everydody's-got-to-do-it thing that infects the women as much as any guys involved. I'm an unabashed strip club afficianado and I find it very frustrating when small-breasted faves - or faves with absolutely perfect most-women-would-pray-to-have-them natural boobs go out and get fake boobs - because when they compare themselves to other women with fake boobs and see how much those fake boobs inflate any article of clothing, they feel un-worthy. It's really a shame. I was getting a dance with a really adorable Asian babe a couple of weeks ago and when our "regular" lapdance ended, she asked me if I wanted a topless. I definitely wanted more time with her and was glad to make her happy by giving her the additional bucks for a topless dance, though I was perfectly happy spending time with her with her top on. When she took off her bra, I was marvelling at her beautiful long nipples - but she was all apologetic about her small boobs. This girl has really pretty small boobs and wonderful big pencil-eraser nipples, so it's rather a shame, in my opinion that she should feel like she has anything to apologize for - it ain't as if she were wearing some push-up padded bra to give the impression of having bigger boobs where I would feel like there was some bait-and-switch going on. I think two of my faves have taken off this week, as a matter of fact, to get boob jobs - and both had really nice tiny titties - one of them had the prettiest natural bod in the whole club. Whatcha gonna do? Me, I appreciate the babes like Jenna Haze, that have small natural boobs and like them just as they are and have no intention of messing with them. There's too many plastic surgery disasters, like Teagan Presley, whose attractiveness, as far as I'm concerned, has gone straight downhill with every bit of surgery that she's gone to make a once-fabulous body more "perfect". | |
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| 04-04-09 04:27am - 5648 days | #35 | |
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wiild1 (0)
Unverified User Posts: 52 Registered: Apr 14, '07 Location: UK |
Re: Freeones.com: Barbie thread
ha ha, I have actually contributed to the barbie thread! :-) I confess: When it comes to porn and having one night stand type of sex I find silicone boobs and the whole "unnatural" barbie look a big a turn on: Big silicone tits that are almost too firm, too big, Long fake nails, Overly tanned skin, Heavy make up, Skimpy clothes and high stripper heels that a normal woman would never wear. It's all about taste and what turn people one, one person can not critizize the other persons taste or turn ons, I know it's not politically correct to say that you like silicone tits but hey, it's what like! I get turned on by this look, I get turned on by big silicone boobs, therefor I like sites that have that type of content. | |
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| 04-04-09 04:32am - 5648 days | #36 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
I have realised the connection between piercings, tattoos, and fake breasts. First of all the models get pierced through the brain, then they get fake breasts and tattoos. And no, it isn't because I'm old I don't like these things. I am young at heart. I even like some of this new punk rock music by bands such as The Beatles. I even have a car that you no longer need to wind up before you start. It's 3 horse power. Used to be 4 but one of the horses died. Edited on Apr 04, 2009, 04:36am | |
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| 04-04-09 08:19am - 5648 days | #37 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
For PUs who like small tits, black haired models, please watch: Natalia Forest. A newer rising star on the porn heaven.. http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/nataliafor.html At PixandVideo she does some of the best acting, I've seen in a long time - solo. And she's got hc/bg there too. But her first performance solo at P&V - is just amazing...if your're a member at the moment, man, watch how she moves her hips, like she's just fucking the air... BTW: Her one performance at RealityKings is NOT that fine, but that could say more about the producers than the model... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" Edited on Apr 04, 2009, 08:27am | |
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| 04-04-09 11:27am - 5648 days | #38 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
She is really gorgeous. My big fear is how long before she disapears only to reapear with bolt-ons? Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 04-04-09 11:43am - 5648 days | #39 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
"Hi, Friends. Now, let's be totally honest about it. Did you ever think that your penis, or, as in the case of many dignified ladies, that the size of the titties themselves could lead to subconscious frustration!" -Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention, "Penis Dimension," from 200 Motels I recently watched a two-hour bio on Jenna Jameson on TV. (YES, TELEVISION! I'm OLD SCHOOL!) Anyway, Jenna talked about how she was told that she had to get implants in order to stay in the industry, and this was fairly early in her career. It wasn't really a choice. The industry has it that the women must have big ta-ta's so that those will show on the cover material (vids in those days, web pages these days) and that the consumer will see the same after the "play" button is issued its command. Here at PU, we usually beg to differ, or we just don't really even care that much (our sights being set in a more southernly direction, perhaps?). I sit at my computer and cheer the girls who haven't been beefed up. I think Carli Banks is one. And, well, just check out ALS Scans. No silicone is allowed there. So we need more sites like that! You know, Evelyn Lory has been inactive for several months now. I'd love to see her back (yes, that's a pun), but I just hope that she hasn't gotten those "extra ingredients" during her time away. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 04-04-09 06:46pm - 5647 days | #40 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I'd have to agree that it was early in her career because she started around 93-94 and by 96 she had implants. Here is where it gets a little complicated. She made about 38 movies before she appeared with Howard Stern in Private Parts in 97. Many consider this to be where she aquired such a popularity. She went on to make over 100 more movies after that. Although I might be willing to believe that some idiot told her early on to get implants. I find it harder to believe that a girl who made 100 more movies after Private Parts was pressured into getting bigger implants, tattoos and major plastic surgery. As a man, I am kind of tired to be blamed for women getting implants. Is it possible that women somehow think that implants will appeal to man and therfore get them without first asking us whether we want them??? Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 04-04-09 10:16pm - 5647 days | #41 | |
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exotics4me (0)
Active User Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
I'm glad my wife doesn't have an account here. Mainly because she wouldn't know how to type out caveman grunts that she was making after reading this thread. Seriously guys, read some of your posts in this thread, I think the overall forum's open-mindedness scale just dropped. Women should ask men before doing something to their body? Key word being, "Their" body? I also can't help but wonder how the young woman who just bought implants because she had self-image problems, feels about being called a mutilation? Opinions are one thing guys, using derogatory words is another one. This thread, not all of it, but a good portion of it is a field day for a psychologist, and the sad thing is, I don't even think some of you realize how much this thread proves that some men look at women as nothing more than objects. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |
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| 04-05-09 12:19am - 5647 days | #42 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
So, exotics, you're surprised that guys at PornUsers.com are judging women's attractiveness by their bods? Has this not been completely apparent by virtually every single review on this site? Boobs are important to guys who get into looking at women's bods - and guys are pretty damned opinionated about it - some look at every instance of enhanced boobs as mutilation, some think that virtually every woman that makes a living off of showing off her bod would look better with enhanced boobs. Many guys have more nuanced views - but guys are pretty damned blunt and opionionated whenever this subject takes place - and that's the case on every single forum that I've ever seen this subject discussed on. | |
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| 04-05-09 04:06am - 5647 days | #43 | |||
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exotics4me (0)
Active User Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
I'll give you the benefit of a doubt that you haven't read all the comments. There is 1950s era sexism here, that women should come to men before changing their bodies. You know, like men own them. Also keep in mind that we are not just talking about porn stars with implants.
I really don't think it is a man's place to be opinionated about what a woman does with her body. Again, this thread is not just about porn stars that we pay to see. I do think it is a man's place to say what he likes and doesn't like, but is comparing a surgery that could change a woman's life in a positive way to what happens to war and accident victims, really necessary?
Being blunt does not mean being degrading. The thread started out civil, and is still civil, but some of the comments are disappointing to say the very least. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |||
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| 04-05-09 04:13am - 5647 days | #44 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
Well, taking things in context, the thread IS about whether or not women should have their breasts enhanced. Now, if that makes us objectifiers of women, let's at least keep in mind that women discuss this matter as well, and some go on to having their boobs "inflated," so we'd have to admit that they "objectify" themselves, which in truth they do sometimes. They want to draw the attention of men. I don't know if the sentiment here against implants proves anything one way or another vis-a-vis the issue of men objectifying women. If someone wants to grind the axe, they can accomplish this on either side of the cutting edge. But I'd like to get further into this oft heard claim that men objectify women. I think if you treat another human being as an object, it means that you use the person for your own purposes as if that person is not really a complete human being. Same goes for groups of people, like women. Or men, for that matter. Where to begin? Could it be argued that Picassco's "Nude Descending a Staircase" is an objectification? What about the "Mona Lisa?" Was Da Vinci objectifying himself? Then there's advertising. Ohhhh, boy. Well, to give one example: Those pills that supposedly make a man "larger." Are women, and men as well, objectifying the male? I'm not sure about that. What about women who marry men because the men are wealthy? Surely this happens. The guy could be the nicest guy in the world, but take away the financial assets and some women will drop him and go for another. These women care for wealth more than they care for the man. But you don't see men whining about being treated as "financial objects." Not if they know how to have a good time. Anyway, some people use other people. But being very appreciative of female beauty, and for my own preference, natural beauty without breast implants, does that mean that I'm objectifying women? Exotics, have you just been objectifying Eve Angel all of these years, or is that you see something beautiful in a non-physical way that emanates from that woman? I think you do. I think that beauty is something starts from the inside, and all of the cosmetics and skin care and time at the gym serves the purpose of making that inner beauty easier to see. A woman who is happy with her own looks (her body, which is a physical object) is more likely to project that inner beauty. Ever meet a women who was "beautiful" physically but not inwardly? I don't find them at all attractive. But that still doesn't mean that I don't (nor that you don't) objectify the woman. "Her beauty is the object of my desire." Say that and, BANG!, it's even in the language! Proof positive! I wonder how it is for male peacocks. Are they just pawns in the game, foolishly displaying their plumage to their less endowed female counterparts, not realizing that it's all "objectification" that's going to protect the species from extinction? Well, this claim that men objectify women has gone on for years, and it's just too clever by half. It oversimplifies (and insults) men, it oversimplifies life, and it oversimplifies nature. Sometimes, it's an implicit justification for misandry. After all, if you're complaining about the misogyny that you see all around you, you'd better cloak your hatred of men in something defensive. So why not claim that men objectify women? As if you just KNOW that men are, categorically, that simple, one-dimensional, and despicable. Right. And maybe, just maybe, when a man sees beauty in a woman it's because he recognizes something that dwells in himself. Oh, I think I know what that might be: The "Objectifier Region" of the brain. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Apr 05, 2009, 04:31am | |
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| 04-05-09 05:55am - 5647 days | #45 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Me backward in my views about women?! Never. Tell Mrs D to be quiet and get on with the washing up. There is a big difference between cosmetic surgery for psychological reasons and cosmetic surgery in order to further the career in porn -where indeed women are nothing but objects. These are two very different reasons and I think you are confusing the two. We are talking about cosmetic surgery in porn. There will be more to come on this - but it will have to be later as I am too busy preparing and cooking the meal for my partner this evening. I'll be back. | |
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| 04-05-09 06:15am - 5647 days | #46 | |
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exotics4me (0)
Active User Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
In Messmer's original thread starting post he asked, "What the heck is the attraction when it comes to watching or fondling bags of silicone implanted under the skin. Is there now a silicone fetish I'm not aware of?" So there is no confusion on my part. Unless of course, all the members have a porn star for a wife or girlfriend. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |
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| 04-05-09 08:19am - 5647 days | #47 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
We must not have read the post in the same way. I didn't get the feeling that we were telling women that they have to check with us before getting implants. I think the overall message is that if you are a woman who's career is dependant on your physical appearance then there can be consequences to altering said body. It's not fair, but then again many things in life aren't. I might even say that there is a positive message here in regards to women and their appearance. Most of us have said that we prefer natural looking breast, but for the most part none of us have said what that natural look is suppose to be. Therefore you could conclude that no matter what they actually look like. We will much prefer them to their artificial counterpart. Yes, there can be exceptions to that rule, but I suspect that those are in the minority compared to all the others. Don't you find it a rather sad statement that women feel they have to get breast implants or plastic surgery to feel good about themselves? Is it because of men and their fascination with women of a certain look? Is it maybe because of all these fashion magazines that are written by women for women and feature supermodels that are nothing like the average women? I'd be willing to take the blame but since I've looked at Playboy magazines as far back as the 70's and I still prefer small breasted women, then clearly that body type although nice to look at is not what appeals to me. In regards to men's opinion on breast implants/plactic surgery. I would hope that if your wife or for that matter anybody else's significant other was thinking about getting something done that she/they would first ask for our opinion. They don't have to follow it, but I would like to think that if you married her it's because you liked what she looked like and not what she might one day look like after plastic surgery. Not to mention, but once you start to alter your appearance for the sake of well being then you venture on a very dangerous road. I'm sure many of us have seen pictures of people who for the sake of well being now look at best freakish. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 04-05-09 11:46am - 5647 days | #48 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
exotics4me, looking at this thread and the various replies I don't see where anything degrading is being said about women. If anything, our praise of natural woman (most responses)is a compliment and a clear statement that we are happy to marry them, look at them or whatever, just as they are and that we don't understand this need to "enhance" something that in most eyes is perfect already. What I cannot understand is that today's liberated woman would feel somehow inferior because she has been given smaller breasts, or that she would get an enhancement because her boyfriend, husband, porn producer is drooling over the thought of super breasts. THAT is degrading. | |
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| 04-05-09 04:05pm - 5647 days | #49 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
I was going to say a lot, but Pat, Messmer, and Drooler have said it so eloquently that I cannot possibly improve on it. But there are one or two things I would like to add that are not as eloquent as those three, but I would like to say anyway. Exotics said "I also can't help but wonder how the young woman who just bought implants because she had self-image problems, feels about being called a mutilation?" I honestly don't know, and it really isn't my problem, I just consider her sad and screwed up. I do know I'll look at her in the same way I may look at a beautiful girl with a 3 inch wart or birthmark on her face. I see the beautiful girl but I cannot help but notice the thing that detracts from the beauty. The one difference is that one chose to mutilate herself, and that was her choice. If the others choose to have surgery to remove the warts or birthmarks they were born with, or to create a breast after a mastectomy that is something else. They are chasing after an image of what society considers beauty, or maybe just plain old normality. They do not wish to deviate from the norm. they wish to be normal. Centuries ago chubby was considered beautiful because only the rich could afford to eat. What is considered beautiful changes over the years. I don't blame women with something that is outside the norm to wish to be more normal or average. But cosmetic surgery on a normal body is something different. If girls choose to do these things to themselves to change their looks and are then judged on those looks then that's their problem. They are changing their looks. Therefore they will be judged on their looks. There are tribes where girls add rings to their necks to elongate their necks or add giant plates to their lips. With the elongated necks, if the rings are removed the neck will break, but it is done in the pusuit of beauty, or at least what is accepted as beauty. At least that is accepted in their tribe. But I do look on them as uncivilised. I am being honest, and I realise I am being judgemental. I regard women who pursue cosmetic surgery in the same way. I take pity on those women as being uncivilised, inadequate, and looking to make up for a lack of something in their life. Couples look to have more children to draw a crumbling relationship together. It usually has the opposite effect. So I look at women outside porn, who have this surgery, to be sad losers who look to make up for their sad lives and poor self esteem by changing their looks. Maybe it will, and maybe it wont. But porn is something else, and maybe it was me that was confused, because I should have separated the two. There are those in porn who I think feel the need to get cosmetic surgery. I think this site and hopefully tastes of men in general will lead away from this unnatural surgery. I think this thread and others is great. There are men out there who love the natural look. Hopefully this will continue in the future and the masses will rise up and say no to cosmetic surgery. Most of us have said what we want. I hope others will do the same, and maybe the message will get through to the porn industry. This will save porn models from unnecessary surgery. But in porn it doesn't matter who the model is or how nice she is, or what she feels. We are here because we like to see girls with no clothes and/or having sex. It is all about looks. Therefore we do not want to see models who we consider ugly or unnatractive. This may be retro or politically incorrect, but the porn industry is all about looks. So they better get it right or they don't get my money. Pat, Messmer, and Drooler put it better than I did. I would embrace what they said as part of this post. This forum contains all sorts of suggestions about scenarios, dialogue or no dialogue, who looks great and who doesn't, does the cameraman talk to much, toys, anal, fetishes, etc. So there is absolutely nothing wrong with saying what we have said in the way that we have said it. Porn is all about looks and what looks good, and that's what we talk about. Edited on Apr 05, 2009, 04:47pm | |
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| 04-05-09 05:11pm - 5647 days | #50 | ||||||
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exotics4me (0)
Active User Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
Sorry Drooler, the thread is about would we watch a porno with all implanted models or why would we want a woman with implants, not about "the thread IS about whether or not women should have their breasts enhanced". That's a world of difference as the question is asking for the attraction from a male towards a woman with implants, not the more care showing "should they". I think if you look back you will realize that.
You and I both know that to objectify someone can mean multiple things and it can be both positive and negative, as all things in life are. As for your definition to what is an object when we are talking about humans, I would say that your definition is right, but it isn't specific, and I would add to it that when someone uses another human as an object it is because they feel superior to them, both physically and mentally, and feel the person made into an object can not make decisions on their own, at least not better than they could for them.
Absolutely agree. The commercials for pills are turning men into objects in my opinion, but Drooler, until a group of women come to PU or an advertising agency comes here and starts a thread making fun of men for taking or for not taking then you have my word, I will be the first to voice my displeasure with that thread. Same goes for when a group of women join and make jokes about the men they have used. You're only assuming how I would respond based on my response in this thread. Agreed?
It means that you and I both objectify women in a mostly positive non-degrading way. This thread was positive, but it was slipping real fast into negativity. Plain and simple, my post was my feelings towards those who decide to be negative not just once, but over and over. It was my opinion, based on what I read that we have members who believe all women should look the way they want them to. Just like we have members that believe every website should only put videos up that they like. That is an old way of male thinking that is showing in more than one way and I spoke against it. Look at GCode's post up there. He says several times that he knows his pro-tattoo post would probably stir controversy. You don't think he felt that would be the case because he has seen the negativity that has seeped into this thread?
To me Drooler, this is where you really start going off the topic and showing what I guess is sarcasm. As a matter of fact, up to here, I really couldn't tell what was sarcasm and what wasn't. It did however let me know that for some reason, you thought my post was negative about men.
If I was trying to say something, I wouldn't cloak it, as you can see by me responding to your post and explaining it. Drooler, have I ever hid my opinions or been shy to making a controversial but relevant point on here? No. As for insulting men, maybe you should again, think about what I said, because my post was pro-male, I could not believe that men had been set back 50 years in our progress. The questions still are asked does a woman think we want her to have implants, no, they think they want them and that is the majority of women who get implants. Now, for why, it could be many reasons and I will give you that, some are to get men's attention, but I also know more than a few women who have them that did it because they were unhappy with their body, not anything to do with a man. And this thread stinks of men believing it is all about us and their desire to please us. That's bullshit from 50 years ago. And that more than anything I said insults men! My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | ||||||
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