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09-05-13  12:16pm - 4126 days Original Post - #1
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Batwoman not allowed to marry her girlfriend, says DC Comics.

I stopped reading comics when I was still in my teens, many years (decades) ago.
But now I find I have almost no clue as what is happening to characters I grew up with, like Batman and Superman.

And there are many new characters I never even heard of.

Batwoman? I knew there was a Catwoman. But never knew that Batman had a cousin (or some non-related person that took on part of the Batman name).

And now I read that Batwoman will not be allowed to marry her girlfriend.
Batwoman, a lesbian? Does that mean that Batman is a closet gay?
And what was Batman's real relationship to Robin, anyway? I thought Robin was cute. Did Batman also think Robin was cute, or was there a deeper meaning to their relationship, that was hidden from public view back in the 1960s, that might now be exposed?
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'Batwoman' Creative Team Quits After DC Comics Nixes Lesbian Marriage Story Line
Business InsiderBy Melia Robinson | Business Insider – 47 minutes ago



"Batwoman" comic writers say DC Comics prohibited a wedding between the female superhero and her girlfriend.
The co-writers of "Batwoman" are leaving DC Comics at the altar.

In a blog post late Tuesday, artist JH Williams III and writer W. Haden Blackman announced their split from DC — alleging that it prohibited their female, openly gay superhero from getting married.

"In recent months, DC has asked us to alter or completely discard many long-standing storylines in ways that we feel compromise the character and the series," Williams and Blackman wrote.

They cited a number of "eleventh-hour" changes that included, "most crushingly," instructions to never show Batwoman tying the knot with fiancé Maggie Sawyer.

"Batwoman" relaunched in 2011 as a five-part series telling a new origin story for the female Caped Crusader.

The comic follows army brat Kate Kane who is expelled from West Point after rumors surface saying she is a lesbian. She briefly meets Batman and embarks on a mission to protect Gotham City from a growing contingent of supernatural criminals.

batwoman maggie

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Batwoman's fiancé, Maggie Sawyer, is a policewoman in Gotham City.
Since its start, the comic has served as a pillar of LGBT advocacy. In the ground-breaking Issue 17, Batwoman proposed to girlfriend and policewoman Maggie Sawyer. It marked the first lesbian marriage proposal in mainstream comics history, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

She isn't the first gay character.

DC's Green Lantern came out of the closet last summer, and Marvel's Canadian superhero Northstar and his boyfriend got hitched in a 2012 issue of "The Astonishing X-Men."

According to Comics Alliance, Batwoman's origin was inspired by the U.S.'s "controversial real-life policies concerning homosexuals serving in the armed forces."
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The character ultimately belongs to DC Comics, so when Williams and Blackman felt cornered, they walked.

"We felt that the series and characters should always be moving forward, to keep changing and evolving," the co-writers said in their blog. "We’re both heartbroken over leaving, but we feel strongly that you all deserve stories that push the character and the series forward."

Williams responded to an outpouring of support from fans on Twitter, and addressed the marriage refusal on DC's part.

@andykhouri Not wanting to be inflammatory, only factual- We fought to get them engaged, but were told emphatically no marriage can result.
— J.H. Williams III (@JHWilliamsIII) September 5, 2013

He clarified that DC is not "anti-gay marriage," but anti-wedding.

@andykhouri But must clarify- was never put to us as being anti-gay marriage.
— J.H. Williams III (@JHWilliamsIII) September 5, 2013

Gail Simone, a fellow DC writer, made her best guess as to why DC would keep Batwoman and Maggie apart, tweeting:

@GailSimone @theJohnChihak Gail is right, but it still should not be a story to be avoided, but embraced fully.
— J.H. Williams III (@JHWilliamsIII) September 5, 2013

The pair seemed to be referencing DC's recent editorial moves to sever relationships between super-couples, including Superman and Lois Lane, the Flash and Iris West, and Green Arrow and Black Canary, according to Comics Alliance.

Other "Batwoman" changes DC allegedly ordered: ditch plans for Killer Croc's origins, alter the original ending of the current story arc, and abandon long-standing plot lines that "compromised the character and the series."

Williams and Blackman's last issue, #26, hits shelves in December.

09-05-13  01:15pm - 4126 days #2
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Wow ......
Thats very interesting.

Originally Posted by :

Batman's real relationship to Robin, anyway? I thought Robin was cute. Did Batman also think Robin was cute, or was there a deeper meaning to their relationship, that was hidden from public view back in the 1960s, that might now be exposed?


I think most people knew there was more to this then was let on. Since 2007

09-05-13  04:26pm - 4126 days #3
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Batman and Robin might have been the inspiration for the ambiguously gay superhero duo seen on Saturday Night Live years ago, though Bruce Wayne, Batman's alter ego, seemed to be having fun with the ladies. Hey, he was already "bi" one way, so why not another?

Batwoman and her scuttled nuptials are part of the twists and turns that society is going through as acceptance of homosexuality grows. I think that with time the whole marriage thing, which can only be a side story for any superhero, won't seem like such a big deal.

Then Batwoman can stay quietly married for a few years, get divorced, and go on saving the world. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

09-05-13  08:59pm - 4126 days #4
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


And what was Batman's real relationship to Robin, anyway? I thought Robin was cute. Did Batman also think Robin was cute, or was there a deeper meaning to their relationship, that was hidden from public view back in the 1960s, that might now be exposed?

Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


I think most people knew there was more to this then was let on.


What, a couple of athletic guys can't dress up in costumes with molded six-packs, start their evenings in a literal man cave, and then go out for a wild night on the town?

Maybe all those "girlfriends" Bruce Wayne had were just beards to keep people from guessing what he really did with his free time and gigantic fortune. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-06-13  07:47am - 4126 days #5
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The real world is bizarre enough without 'pc' guidelines being included in the deal.

Why should a childhood character have to display any sexuality?

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