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08-24-13  06:54am - 4138 days Original Post - #1
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Webmasters want to know!

Ok, not sure how many of you are aware, but I have been hijacking multiple threads with questions, hopefully most were on topic.

For those who don't know, I do run a site. I only found PU after I had created it. After looking through what members likes and dislikes are with other sites, mostly with billing, business practices, etc. I am looking at doing a full makeover. However I still have many questions, and want as much input, as possible. Not so much about content, as I am happy with the niche I am in, and don't really look to change that, but more with what customers want to see as far as billing options, content downloads, information concerning updates. Mostly everything outside of nude photos/videos of women.

I do not want anyone to think I am starting this thread to get traffic to my site. I do not even want you to visit it. And definitely do not want people joining it. This is for helpful information for me, and also, hopefully, for more website owners out there.

Feel free to comment on questions I have, or even bring up other things you would like to see, likes or dislikes, or anything else you would like us webmasters/owners to know. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  07:38am - 4138 days #2
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Question 1:

What is more important to you. Is it the content, the price, the billing company and or packages offered, or the general overall look of the site? Which will make you either not join a site, or be more inclined to do so? Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  07:48am - 4138 days #3
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First niche, second pricing.

And not to worry, amateur modeling is not my niche. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat!

08-24-13  09:21am - 4138 days #4
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


First niche, second pricing.

And not to worry, amateur modeling is not my niche.


Very good, thank you for the information, jberry. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  09:31am - 4138 days #5
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As an aside ...

You likely find much helpful info by looking back through forum threads and past poll questions. Both of which have a handy key-word search. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator
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08-24-13  09:36am - 4138 days #6
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Originally Posted by Khan:


As an aside ...

You likely find much helpful info by looking back through forum threads and past poll questions. Both of which have a handy key-word search.

Thank you Khan, I have been reading through older threads, haven't looked at many polls, but will definitely do so.

Thanks very much for the info. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  09:44am - 4138 days #7
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Panties, panties, and more panties, all varities 6 pack bitches, deal with it

08-24-13  10:58am - 4138 days #8
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Originally Posted by Thedebilman666:


Panties, panties, and more panties, all varities


Gonna go out on a limb here, and make a wild guess that you are a fan of panties.

But is there one thing you look for when choosing a site, besides the niche. Be it price, site looks etc.? Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  11:00am - 4138 days #9
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Question 2:

How many updates do you expect from a website? Does it depend on price, the type of site, Or does it matter as long as you know the schedule, and updates are on time? Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  11:29am - 4138 days #10
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Originally Posted by Simarimas:


I do not want anyone to think I am starting this thread to get traffic to my site. I do not even want you to visit it. And definitely do not want people joining it.
Feel free to comment .



No questions or comments, sir.
Just wanna thank you for saving me $29.95

08-24-13  11:42am - 4138 days #11
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Originally Posted by graymane:


No questions or comments, sir.
Just wanna thank you for saving me $29.95


Aha, I may have worded that incorrectly. I meant to say I did not want people going to the site or joining due to me opening this thread. And I definitely want to make the changes to the site before any of you fine people do. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  11:43am - 4138 days #12
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Here's how I would tackle your questions. First, what we most want is quality content. I'm willing to overlook a site's look if it has good stuff. Billing processors matter but mostly only to us who have been around a while and been burned a few times -- we all love ccbill and some of the larger ones because they have their sh*t together. As long as your prices aren't totally out of whack with the competition then we aren't terribly price sensitive so long as you got good stuff. Updates? As many as you can pump out is what we want. On a small niche site 1x per week is the bare minimum. If you're just starting out and have a small collection then think about more updates in order to grow the site -- small collections get you dinged when it comes to ratings at PU, TBP and some other review sites.

Basically if you're going to run a smallish niche site then the number one thing is to be quick to respond customer issues (good and bad), don't mislead by using promos featuring girls not on the site or promising what your can't deliver or back up, don't fall behind on the quality side (don't skimp on pic sizes or vid sizes or production thinking most people won't care, we do because we also see what the big sites are cranking out), and try to stay away from "gonzo" style because that is just so over played today. Good luck.

08-24-13  11:50am - 4138 days #13
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


Here's how I would tackle your questions. First, what we most want is quality content. I'm willing to overlook a site's look if it has good stuff. Billing processors matter but mostly only to us who have been around a while and been burned a few times -- we all love ccbill and some of the larger ones because they have their sh*t together. As long as your prices aren't totally out of whack with the competition then we aren't terribly price sensitive so long as you got good stuff. Updates? As many as you can pump out is what we want. On a small niche site 1x per week is the bare minimum. If you're just starting out and have a small collection then think about more updates in order to grow the site -- small collections get you dinged when it comes to ratings at PU, TBP and some other review sites.

Basically if you're going to run a smallish niche site then the number one thing is to be quick to respond customer issues (good and bad), don't mislead by using promos featuring girls not on the site or promising what your can't deliver or back up, don't fall behind on the quality side (don't skimp on pic sizes or vid sizes or production thinking most people won't care, we do because we also see what the big sites are cranking out), and try to stay away from "gonzo" style because that is just so over played today. Good luck.


Thank you Wittyguy. Exactly the kind of information I am wanting. By small collections, do you mean number of sets/videos on the site. Or small as in a photo set of 10 pictures, but 200 of those sets, or both? Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  12:25pm - 4138 days #14
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Originally Posted by Simarimas:


Question 1:

What is more important to you. Is it the content, the price, the billing company and or packages offered, or the general overall look of the site? Which will make you either not join a site, or be more inclined to do so?


First in importance would be the contents, of course. After that I would like to see the option of a non-recurring one month membership. In practice it isn't a big deal because I pick "recurring" and usually cancel shortly thereafter, without penalty, but I would prefer to have the non-recurring option (at the same price) so that I wouldn't have to worry about forgetting a cancellation.

08-24-13  01:06pm - 4138 days #15
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Originally Posted by messmer:


First in importance would be the contents, of course. After that I would like to see the option of a non-recurring one month membership. In practice it isn't a big deal because I pick "recurring" and usually cancel shortly thereafter, without penalty, but I would prefer to have the non-recurring option (at the same price) so that I wouldn't have to worry about forgetting a cancellation.


I have heard that in other threads here. That is definitely something I think most customers would appreciate. Thank you messmer. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  01:46pm - 4138 days #16
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I shall save my more detailed feedback for email but for now I shall just answer the direct questions posed.

I am very much a photo guy.

Quality of content.

Availability of content ( Zip file, preferably user defined custom zip)

Quantity of content.

Update frequency.

Billing Company. ( I have found Zombaiao fine in the past & have no problem with them).

Whilst CCBill is almost the industry standard I REALLY dislike its regional pricing scam, which has more recently been copied by Epoch....Much to my annoyance.

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08-24-13  02:20pm - 4138 days #17
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Oh yes, Simarimas:
A question now does come to mind ... one I suspect would only interest me.
Is it fair or too premature to ask if your's is a nude or a non-nude site?

Further, would it be too much to ask, barring either shorting or re-arranging your rather complicated name, that you offer or accept an abbreviation. This is an appeal from an aged senior, that it be ignited so I won't have to copy and paste your name each time I need to address you.

Thanks

08-24-13  02:42pm - 4138 days #19
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You may call me Sim, sir.

Since I did not start this thread to promote my site, I did not say anything about it, but since you asked. The site is mostly nude. I have some semi nude sets. There are also a few non nude, implied nude. It all depends on the model and what she is comfortable with. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site Edited on Aug 24, 2013, 08:33pm

08-24-13  02:54pm - 4138 days #20
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Thank you Capn for the response.

I look forward to hearing more from you. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site Edited on Aug 24, 2013, 08:32pm

08-24-13  04:21pm - 4138 days #21
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#1 - A good preview of the site, meaning something that will tell a potential customer what's on your site. The amount and quality of the content on your site and a clear declaration of your update schedule would be ideal.

#2 - No surprises. If the preview/description of the site says HD quality video and/or x megapixels for pictures, deliver what's been promised.

#3 - No pre-checked cross sells. To me, that's always reeked of trying to trick someone out of their money.

#4 - No or minimal advertising in the member's section Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity.

08-24-13  08:32pm - 4138 days #22
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


#1 - A good preview of the site, meaning something that will tell a potential customer what's on your site. The amount and quality of the content on your site and a clear declaration of your update schedule would be ideal.

#2 - No surprises. If the preview/description of the site says HD quality video and/or x megapixels for pictures, deliver what's been promised.

#3 - No pre-checked cross sells. To me, that's always reeked of trying to trick someone out of their money.

#4 - No or minimal advertising in the member's section


Thank you very much for this RagingBuddhist.
A couple of questions for you if you do not mind.

#1 - What exactly would you consider a good preview? A couple of pictures of the same quality and size as the members area? Or previews of each set or video? And how much description are you interested in having? Paragraphs, or short and simple, describing what the site has to offer?

The rest, at least to me, are no brainers. but this info may be very helpful to other webmasters, so I am glad you had them in your list. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-24-13  09:22pm - 4138 days #23
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I definitely don't mind and you're welcome. It's good to see a webmaster taking some serious interest in what people think.

As far as a preview goes, I think the ideal for pictures would be exactly what you said - a couple of actual pictures from the site. Even censored pics would suffice, as long as the quality and size are represented. For video I imagine it gets a little trickier. I know bandwidth costs real money, so even short clips can add up to an expensive proposition. So, if HD flash previews are out of your budget, I think some screenshots would do the job - along with a written description of quality (file types, resolutions and bitrates available). As to the length of the descriptions, I guess the shorter the better. People don't seem to want to read much these days. Short and to the point would be my choice. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity.

08-24-13  10:02pm - 4137 days #24
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The content and niche is most important, but after that it's the price. Honestly, there isn't that much variation in price relative to amount and quality of content i.e. usually the sites that charge an extra $10-20 per month provide better content to justify it. That being said, I have come across sites that charge almost 10 euros per ~100 pic photoset, and you can be sure I will not be paying that anytime soon! Payment processor doesn't matter to me so far, but many others have been burned by bad processors, so I know I'm in the minority there. Packages can make a difference if they're really good. When I find a site that offers a site or two that I like as a bonus, you can bet that I'm joining that site next. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off.

08-24-13  10:44pm - 4137 days #25
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Things I am looking for:

-reasonable price. $30 or less a month.
-non-recurring billing options.
-a payment processor I've heard of.
-preferably a payment processor in the U.S. so I don't have to eat international transaction fees.
-high-quality content. Full-resolution pictures, video at 720p minimum, preferably full HD (after all, this is one of the things that gets people to pay for pro content over the free pic/tube sites, at least in my experience)
-either daily updates or a decently-sized archive so that I can have something new to look at each day
-A site that is easy to navigate and lets me easily sort by specific content types
-I would also concur with the points made above about no surprises or default-checked upsells. I would add to that, don't have ads on the members area of your site, as that's another thing someone is paying money to get away from.

08-25-13  05:50am - 4137 days #26
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Originally Posted by LPee23:


The content and niche is most important, but after that it's the price. Honestly, there isn't that much variation in price relative to amount and quality of content i.e. usually the sites that charge an extra $10-20 per month provide better content to justify it. That being said, I have come across sites that charge almost 10 euros per ~100 pic photoset, and you can be sure I will not be paying that anytime soon! Payment processor doesn't matter to me so far, but many others have been burned by bad processors, so I know I'm in the minority there. Packages can make a difference if they're really good. When I find a site that offers a site or two that I like as a bonus, you can bet that I'm joining that site next.


Thank you LPee23. Well put and good information. I appreciate the input.

A question for you. I believe I have read a few of your posts in other threads, and hope I am not out of line in asking this. But I believe you prefer at least one niche that is a bit out of the 'mainstream'.

Do you expect to pay more for out of the mainstream porn, than for say, just b/g hardcore? Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-25-13  05:59am - 4137 days #27
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Originally Posted by metem:


Things I am looking for:

-reasonable price. $30 or less a month.
-non-recurring billing options.
-a payment processor I've heard of.
-preferably a payment processor in the U.S. so I don't have to eat international transaction fees.
-high-quality content. Full-resolution pictures, video at 720p minimum, preferably full HD (after all, this is one of the things that gets people to pay for pro content over the free pic/tube sites, at least in my experience)
-either daily updates or a decently-sized archive so that I can have something new to look at each day
-A site that is easy to navigate and lets me easily sort by specific content types
-I would also concur with the points made above about no surprises or default-checked upsells. I would add to that, don't have ads on the members area of your site, as that's another thing someone is paying money to get away from.


Welcome metem, nice first post. I do appreciate the input.

If there was one thing that would turn you away from joining a site, what do you think it would be? So when you go to the preview of a site, you see something, and immediately know you will not join.

Thanks again, and look forward to more posts. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-25-13  08:26am - 4137 days #28
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Originally Posted by Simarimas:


Welcome metem, nice first post. I do appreciate the input.

If there was one thing that would turn you away from joining a site, what do you think it would be? So when you go to the preview of a site, you see something, and immediately know you will not join.

Thanks again, and look forward to more posts.


Every porn viewer looks at sites from a variety of venues.
Perhaps after work, or late at night. Or when wife goes to the store for groceries .

I think a pet peeve many would have is sloppy sites, sites should be :
Consistent, page to page and if you have a search engine it should work or remove the thing.

Smooth
Page to page the site should flow like reading a book. If I click on Page A, Page Z should be the same format.

Busy
Some sites over use fonts and affects and make a site look busy and cheesy. Problem with that approach is some browsers will make a site look horrible and compress gifs making a site look like 10 year old technology. Since 2007

08-25-13  09:38am - 4137 days #29
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Every porn viewer looks at sites from a variety of venues.
Perhaps after work, or late at night. Or when wife goes to the store for groceries .

I think a pet peeve many would have is sloppy sites, sites should be :
Consistent, page to page and if you have a search engine it should work or remove the thing.

Smooth
Page to page the site should flow like reading a book. If I click on Page A, Page Z should be the same format.

Busy
Some sites over use fonts and affects and make a site look busy and cheesy. Problem with that approach is some browsers will make a site look horrible and compress gifs making a site look like 10 year old technology.


So simple rather than flashy? Or am I simplifying too much? Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-25-13  10:38am - 4137 days #30
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Originally Posted by Simarimas:


So simple rather than flashy? Or am I simplifying too much?


Well I think some sites just go way over board and make it hard to even see the true aspect of the site.

I think X-art has one of the best sites designs its simple easy to use is a really big site, but does not feel over whelming to use. The main page is simple logo navigation and ease of use. Since 2007

08-25-13  11:44am - 4137 days #31
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Well I think some sites just go way over board and make it hard to even see the true aspect of the site.

I think X-art has one of the best sites designs its simple easy to use is a really big site, but does not feel over whelming to use. The main page is simple logo navigation and ease of use.


Just looked at their site. and yes, I see exactly what you mean. Minimalist, and yet everything is there. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-25-13  11:47am - 4137 days #32
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Question #3:

Does it bother you when a site has multiple niches? Softcore, combined with hardcore, combined with solo girls, combined with non-nude. Or any other combination. Or do you actually like having an all in one site for you shopping needs? Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-25-13  11:54am - 4137 days #33
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Originally Posted by Simarimas:


Question #3:

Does it bother you when a site has multiple niches? Softcore, combined with hardcore, combined with solo girls, combined with non-nude. Or any other combination. Or do you actually like having an all in one site for you shopping needs?


As long as there are search options and/or filters that accurately separate the different niches, that wouldn't bother me. I've been on sites that have search functions that, when searching for lesbian content, still bring up scenes with guys. That kind of shit is annoying. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity.

08-25-13  12:03pm - 4137 days #34
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Originally Posted by Simarimas:


Question #3:

Does it bother you when a site has multiple niches? Softcore, combined with hardcore, combined with solo girls, combined with non-nude. Or any other combination. Or do you actually like having an all in one site for you shopping needs?


Not all sites can be all they can be,.
Seems some think I can do porn I will be the pornocopia of the internet and they end up often not offering a very good selection or what they offer ends up looking like the same thing format wise.

Let me explain it this way,
Ok lets take horror director George Romero,
Drama Director Ron Howard, Mel Brookes, and my favorite the psychopath Quentin Tarantino and tell them to all switch places and make movies It would in two words be "fucked up " .

Having a porn site does not make one and expert at porn. Allot of us members here know allot about porn but do not have websites ( most don't) either.

I think a site that has mixed is fine as along as they do it well. And do not make it look like they open a can and did a scene.

Twisty is one such site in my opion, they are a nice looking site, the solos are pretty amazing, but the sex scenes are so generic I practically laugh at how generic it is. See Twistys started off solo girl and grew from there. Using the same format and I can tell a twistys sex video a mile away without glasses. LOL.

My suggestion if someone does not do it well get some one that can, or don't do it.

Of course thats just this crazy toads take. Since 2007

08-25-13  12:05pm - 4137 days #35
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


As long as there are search options and/or filters that accurately separate the different niches, that wouldn't bother me. I've been on sites that have search functions that, when searching for lesbian content, still bring up scenes with guys. That kind of shit is annoying.


Ya and what RB said too. Since 2007

08-25-13  12:20pm - 4137 days #36
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


As long as there are search options and/or filters that accurately separate the different niches, that wouldn't bother me. I've been on sites that have search functions that, when searching for lesbian content, still bring up scenes with guys. That kind of shit is annoying.


Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Not all sites can be all they can be,.
Seems some think I can do porn I will be the pornocopia of the internet and they end up often not offering a very good selection or what they offer ends up looking like the same thing format wise.

Let me explain it this way,
Ok lets take horror director George Romero,
Drama Director Ron Howard, Mel Brookes, and my favorite the psychopath Quentin Tarantino and tell them to all switch places and make movies It would in two words be "fucked up " .

Having a porn site does not make one and expert at porn. Allot of us members here know allot about porn but do not have websites ( most don't) either.

I think a site that has mixed is fine as along as they do it well. And do not make it look like they open a can and did a scene.

Twisty is one such site in my opion, they are a nice looking site, the solos are pretty amazing, but the sex scenes are so generic I practically laugh at how generic it is. See Twistys started off solo girl and grew from there. Using the same format and I can tell a twistys sex video a mile away without glasses. LOL.

My suggestion if someone does not do it well get some one that can, or don't do it.

Of course thats just this crazy toads take.

Thanks guys.

So as long as the site has a good search feature to find what you want, and the content, no matter what it is, is kept at a high quality, then the multi-niche site is acceptable or even a good thing. Do I have that correct?

And a follow up to Question #3:
Does it bother you when a niche site starts to wander into other niches? So a solo girl site starts adding hardcore b/g, such as Twistys as Cybertoad mentioned. Or a straight b/g hardcore site starts into threesome/orgy, if it means less updates of the original intent, due to having the new niche updates? Or does it matter as long as the content is good. Hope that makes sense, haha. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-25-13  12:41pm - 4137 days #37
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Originally Posted by Simarimas:


Thanks guys.

So as long as the site has a good search feature to find what you want, and the content, no matter what it is, is kept at a high quality, then the multi-niche site is acceptable or even a good thing. Do I have that correct?

And a follow up to Question #3:
Does it bother you when a niche site starts to wander into other niches? So a solo girl site starts adding hardcore b/g, such as Twistys as Cybertoad mentioned. Or a straight b/g hardcore site starts into threesome/orgy, if it means less updates of the original intent, due to having the new niche updates? Or does it matter as long as the content is good. Hope that makes sense, haha.


I join a site for a reason if they start throwing stuff I am not interested in, or like 21Sextury added more stuff I did not like and took away from what I did then ya I don't care much for change.
Its like a Mexican Restaurant you love you go to because it authentic, then they decide to take away from mexican style food by removing some menu items and replace it with cheeseburgers and hot dogs.
There was a place that actually did that where I live and we all went WTF ?
They lost customers and eventually removed the items and put it back as it was.
I would say anyone wanting a significant change should at least ask the regulars they have. Since 2007

08-25-13  01:03pm - 4137 days #38
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Its like a Mexican Restaurant you love you go to because it authentic, then they decide to take away from mexican style food by removing some menu items and replace it with cheeseburgers and hot dogs.
There was a place that actually did that where I live and we all went WTF ?


I know what you mean here. I also hate when every restaurant or fastfood place gets on the same kick. A few years ago it was fish tacos. Everywhere, all at once, offered fish tacos.

Now it is pretzel buns, be it for hot dogs or burgers/sandwiches.

That really drives me crazy. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-25-13  05:04pm - 4137 days #39
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Originally Posted by Simarimas:


Thanks guys.

So as long as the site has a good search feature to find what you want, and the content, no matter what it is, is kept at a high quality, then the multi-niche site is acceptable or even a good thing. Do I have that correct?

And a follow up to Question #3:
Does it bother you when a niche site starts to wander into other niches? So a solo girl site starts adding hardcore b/g, such as Twistys as Cybertoad mentioned. Or a straight b/g hardcore site starts into threesome/orgy, if it means less updates of the original intent, due to having the new niche updates? Or does it matter as long as the content is good. Hope that makes sense, haha.


My advice.

Stick to a chosen niche & do it to the best of your ability.

The internet graveyard is littered with sites that started off with a good idea & then tried to be all things to everybody.

You can please some folk all ( most ) of the time, but you can't please all the folk ever!

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08-25-13  06:29pm - 4137 days #40
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I wasn't aware of your site so I took a look at it so that I'd have a better idea of what to say and what not to say.
Now the following are in regards to your site in particular and I'll add some general info afterwards.

1-Not sure if it's my computer only but your pages are too big for my screen and I have to scroll left and right or up and down to see everything's on the page. That is quite annoying so that would be something that could use fixing.

2-I know the site is called "see me tease" so that might be obvious what is inside the members section but it would be nice if there was a mission statement.

3-The site design is rather primitive with very little info available on the preview section and that might make many people nervous and therefore make them avoid joining simply because of that.

4-On the join page there is a mention that the 19.95$ join price also includes a 3 day trial membership for 2.95$ so that new members can cancel at no extra cost. Does that mean that someone who bought a 19.95$ membership can cancel after 2 days and get refunded the difference between the 2 amounts?

5-A follow up to the above inquiry. Does it mean that a current 3 day trial is in fact a full access 3 day trial membership that rebills at 19.95$ or is it really a partial access?

6-There appears to only be 16 models on the site but the tiny pic at the bottom of the join page makes it look like there might be a lot more inside the members area. which is the correct info?


Now to answer some of your questions.

1-Content is the most important thing to me because I would still feel cheated if I paid only a dollar for crappy stuff.

2-Second most important thing is quality of the product. I don't need HD content but it has to be at least of a decent resolution, good camera angles and not be broken into multiple parts.

3-Ease of finding the content is the third most important thing because I rarely have only one active membership so wasting an hour to find a couple of vids on a site will definitely annoy me and may make me quit trying long before I find everything I care to.

4-If a site has already at least 50 or more vids (100 would be better) then I expect nothing less than one new scene per week and it must always be updated on the same day each time.

5-Price is not really an issue for me but the content must warrant it or I won't join. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-25-13  06:53pm - 4137 days #41
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I wasn't aware of your site so I took a look at it so that I'd have a better idea of what to say and what not to say.
Now the following are in regards to your site in particular and I'll add some general info afterwards.

1-Not sure if it's my computer only but your pages are too big for my screen and I have to scroll left and right or up and down to see everything's on the page. That is quite annoying so that would be something that could use fixing.

2-I know the site is called "see me tease" so that might be obvious what is inside the members section but it would be nice if there was a mission statement.

3-The site design is rather primitive with very little info available on the preview section and that might make many people nervous and therefore make them avoid joining simply because of that.

4-On the join page there is a mention that the 19.95$ join price also includes a 3 day trial membership for 2.95$ so that new members can cancel at no extra cost. Does that mean that someone who bought a 19.95$ membership can cancel after 2 days and get refunded the difference between the 2 amounts?

5-A follow up to the above inquiry. Does it mean that a current 3 day trial is in fact a full access 3 day trial membership that rebills at 19.95$ or is it really a partial access?

6-There appears to only be 16 models on the site but the tiny pic at the bottom of the join page makes it look like there might be a lot more inside the members area. which is the correct info?


Now to answer some of your questions.

1-Content is the most important thing to me because I would still feel cheated if I paid only a dollar for crappy stuff.

2-Second most important thing is quality of the product. I don't need HD content but it has to be at least of a decent resolution, good camera angles and not be broken into multiple parts.

3-Ease of finding the content is the third most important thing because I rarely have only one active membership so wasting an hour to find a couple of vids on a site will definitely annoy me and may make me quit trying long before I find everything I care to.

4-If a site has already at least 50 or more vids (100 would be better) then I expect nothing less than one new scene per week and it must always be updated on the same day each time.

5-Price is not really an issue for me but the content must warrant it or I won't join.


Again, while I did not start this thread to have people go to my site, but for general information about what members are looking for, I am very happy to answer the questions you posed concerning it.

1. I will have to look into the scrolling issue you have with the site page sizes. But I am going to be making changes, so that will be added to the list.

2 & 3. Again, this is on the list. I am taking much of the input I am getting here on PU and making a plan for a major overhaul. I do thank you for the input.

4 & 5. 5 is the correct one here. Full access for 3 days then a rebill, at the full price. Again, subject to change.

6. 16 models total at this point. The thumb at the bottom is a screen of the members area, where all the models sets are posted together in the order the updates are posted. Again, one of the many changes I will be making.

I do want to restate in this answer to you, that I am not fishing for visitors or members. I have a ton of work to do in order to make my site worth even a visit. And the information I gather here will help me in doing so. And I hope is very useful to others who do, or are wanting to, run websites.

And thank you very much pat362 for the answers you gave to the questions, and your input about my site. I truly do appreciate it. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

08-26-13  02:33pm - 4136 days #42
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Originally Posted by Simarimas:


Question #3:



Most sites I join have multiple niches, so if there are ones there I don't like I ignore but it really is more about the quality of the niche I have an interest in.

Some sites are known for their soft core (MetArt for instance) but at the same time they have a hard core portion too.

Let me back up now to Q#2: I think most important is a regularly occurring time that it is updated. Once a week is acceptable - only larger sites with multiple directors do more than one a day (like Evil Angel)so I've never expected a smaller site to try to be like that. But as I started off here - regularly scheduled updates. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

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08-27-13  04:36pm - 4135 days #43
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


Most sites I join have multiple niches, so if there are ones there I don't like I ignore but it really is more about the quality of the niche I have an interest in.

Some sites are known for their soft core (MetArt for instance) but at the same time they have a hard core portion too.

Let me back up now to Q#2: I think most important is a regularly occurring time that it is updated. Once a week is acceptable - only larger sites with multiple directors do more than one a day (like Evil Angel)so I've never expected a smaller site to try to be like that. But as I started off here - regularly scheduled updates.


Thanks for that jberryl69. So as long as the updates are regular, when they say they will be done, then for the most part you are good with it. I have heard that quite a bit. And again, I think this comes back to the sites being honest about what they have, and what they are offering. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

09-03-13  02:33pm - 4128 days #44
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I wonder why new site owners do not join a site and look at what is out there ?

The members around here I am assuming found knowledge like I did watching reading and researching what we like.
I have I think 40+ of porn exposure. And can tell you what I like and do not and can take look at a site and see it sucks pretty easy. It just always amazes me that new sites do not see what works and what does not but dive in anyways.
Wierd.

Cybertoad Out !! Since 2007

09-08-13  09:45am - 4123 days #46
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Hello everyone, sorry for the absence. Son got married a week ago, and busy with the site updates.

Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


I wonder why new site owners do not join a site and look at what is out there ?

The members around here I am assuming found knowledge like I did watching reading and researching what we like.
I have I think 40+ of porn exposure. And can tell you what I like and do not and can take look at a site and see it sucks pretty easy. It just always amazes me that new sites do not see what works and what does not but dive in anyways.
Wierd.

Cybertoad Out !!


Good points, but you have to realize, just looking at the forums here, that no two people have the same tastes. So if a site owner joined one of the big ones, and saw what they were doing, then the people who didn't like that style would hate the new site as well. Everyone has different tastes.

Personally, from what I have read on here, something outside the box, and new, is what is missing. Not the same old stuff. So perhaps diving in, while risky,is worth the chance? It may not work, but one can't know without trying. Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

09-08-13  01:16pm - 4123 days #47
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Good to know you are still around, Sim.

It had gone awful quiet!

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09-09-13  10:55am - 4122 days #48
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Like I mentioned in the other post, the photos in websites are sometime horrendous.
If I want photos that look like uncle bobs Polaroid shot well I won't pay for it thats for sure. Since 2007

12-14-13  10:28am - 4026 days #50
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Sorry guys, been a while. Been lurking but been real busy with things.

New question.

Do you prefer super model looks in the girls on websites, be it softcore, hardcore or whatever? Or do you prefer more 'real' looking girls, such as the girl next door type, with their flaws, imperfections, etc? Webmaster/Owner www.SeeMeTease.com amateur modeling site

12-14-13  11:07am - 4026 days #51
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i like anal sex. so if your site does not have it, you wont get me easily. super model or not.

other than that i dont really differentiate model/amateur. i like girls with some meat on them. big hips, strong legs, big boobs is a plus obviously. i don't like skinny girls most sites use out there but i am probably not your target audience anyway,

12-14-13  11:10am - 4026 days #52
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'real' looking girls,fer sure

most of my favorites would not be found on a fashion runway. unless life also gives you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck.

12-14-13  11:14am - 4026 days #53
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Originally Posted by Simarimas:


Sorry guys, been a while. Been lurking but been real busy with things.

New question.

Do you prefer super model looks in the girls on websites, be it softcore, hardcore or whatever? Or do you prefer more 'real' looking girls, such as the girl next door type, with their flaws, imperfections, etc?


The real looking ones, please. Flaws and all. The glamor types do not interest me.

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