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| 09-28-11 11:18am - 4834 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Credit Card Woes! Some scam site called jacshelp.com has helped itself to US $ 39.95 out of my credit card account. Has anyone in here ever heard of it? Google is full of complaints about this site. I am definitely cancelling my present card. Thank God it only has as much on it as I put in, if I used a regular credit card I would really be running scared now. Edited on Sep 28, 2011, 06:30pm | |
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| 09-28-11 12:32pm - 4834 days | #2 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
bitchwithanitch.com (see http://whois.domaintools.com/bitchwithanitch.com) is owned by Jubilee Advisors, Inc. (who run jacshelp.com) and the principals of this company which is registered in WY are Kaled Essrauwi Arias (who is located in the Jubilee Advisors at 701 Brickell Avenue, Suite 1550 Miami Florida,33131 US Tel. +01.3057285107), Olivier Richard (who serves as Pres & Sec and lives in Boca Raton FL) and Gerald Pitts (who has his fingers in multiple pies out of WY - see http://www.corporationwiki.com/Wyoming/Cheyenne/gerald-pitts-P2778136.aspx)) "Jubilee Advisors Inc" owns about 35 other domains, including but not limited to Directions for Sex, .... and others I don't care to research. But I did find this interesting article from Huffington Post regarding Mr. Pitts open but shady dealings - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/28/a-single-house-in-wyoming-business-haven_n_885863.html If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee. If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! Edited on Sep 28, 2011, 12:48pm (jberryl69: more info) | |
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| 09-28-11 12:57pm - 4834 days | #3 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
It baffles me how scams like this can persist. I can understand a 'company' located in some third-world country popping up for a month or so, running a scam and then shutting down before it gets too hot. But a company with offices in at least two American states? From what I could see with a quick Google search messmer's experience isn't uncommon. Why would a company like this be allowed to continue? Maybe there isn't enough evidence to bring criminal charges, but you'd think banks would be blacklisting them and refusing to accept charges from them if the numbers of charge-backs and complaints was hight enough. But then again, I'm sure a lot of people let 'minor' charges like this go and just pay them lest they be revealed to have paid for a porn membership at a fully legal site. I know I've done that before. If Sears stiffed me on an online purchase I'd be jumping up and down yelling, but if I think I'd have to admit to buying a membership at "Hardcore Anally Stuffed Babes" then I'd probably pay the bill and shut up. W Which probably answers my question about how these guys get away with this crap. | |
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| 09-28-11 02:14pm - 4834 days | #4 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Scary stuff, jberryl69. So many crooks out there. Just read up on Mr. Pitts. Director of 41 companies??? Why is he not in jail? And how the heck did he get my credit card number? Makes you wary of doing business with anyone on the net, unless you've dealt with them before. I haven't been to any doubtful places, though .. so I really don't know what happened there. | |
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| 09-28-11 02:19pm - 4834 days | #5 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
You make some valid points there, rearadmiral. If I were in doubt re. a porn site I wouldn't have reported it to my bank. But I made no subscriptions at that time that aren't fully documented and I've never made one to a site that would cost me $ 39.95 so, the question remains: who gave them my number? | |
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| 09-28-11 04:31pm - 4834 days | #6 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
That's a valid question. Some unethical company may have sold your number. And why this guy isn't behind bars is baffling. | |
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| 09-28-11 04:38pm - 4834 days | #7 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
Specifically to your question Messmer, I can only relate how it has happened to me before. As you sign up for a site, they have a bunch of pages and on them with the check mark already in place they auto op you into a new site for a three day free trial. If you don't uncheck the box and/or don't cancel within three days, you get a full price bludgeoning on your credit card. Of course not knowing your particular circumstance regarding any recent purchases online, I can't say that you were caught this way, but can only say I have fallen victim in the past with this type of scam. Thus my lesson learned is to read the small print - take my time - see what else this dogs are trying to scam me with whenever I sign up for a new site (or any purchase off the internet really). I will say though that the people I dealt with to get my money refunded were a lot nicer than these folks appear to be. As for Gerald Pitts, I don't know what laws he's broken, but there are a few States (Delaware is one I know)and other countries that are a corporate haven for companies doing business in other places. I guess WY is another. This is not to say that all these companies are scammers, though I believe Mr. Pitts is not unknowing of the way some of these companies do business. I'm sure some day he will get his nuts in vice and someone will squeeze him raw.  If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! | |
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| 09-28-11 06:49pm - 4834 days | #8 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Wise words and I have followed your advice re. checking everything very carefully for years because PU contains a lengthy record of people who got burned by not looking first. I won't get caught by pre-checked trial offers and never use trials, period, lest I forget to cancel in time. So the whole thing is a mystery. All my transactions were done through CCBill, Epoch, SegPay and GMBill (I think they are called), the agents for Abby Winters. The only thing I can think of is that someone was desperate enough in one of these places to sell some crooks my credit card number or that they were hacked. Oh, well, I'll remove whatever balance I have on my re-chargeable card tomorrow, or day after tomorrow (my bank is always a few days behind when it comes to transactions) .. then let them try to sneak in another $ 40,00 (CA) charge and see how far they get. It is unfortunate though, because it really soured me on buying anything via the Internet. Edited on Sep 28, 2011, 06:59pm | |
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| 09-29-11 02:57pm - 4833 days | #9 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Adding insult to injury: I just discovered that this despicable outfit took me for another $ 39.95 on September 11. Card has been cancelled for sure!  Now, while I wait to get my new card (7 - 10 days) any suggestions on which "photo, softcore, mature women in alluring lingerie slowly stripping" site I should spend the first dollars of the new card?  And a word of advice: Always check your statements carefully. These scam artists will usually take you for roughly the same amount it would cost to subscribe to a Porn site for a month and you might assume it's something you're a member of and let it slide. Keep the name JacsHelp.com in mind when you read your statement. Edited on Sep 29, 2011, 03:03pm | |
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| 10-02-11 02:10am - 4831 days | #10 | |
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elephant (0)
Active User  Posts: 585 Registered: Jan 11, '07 |
Hi, that's terrible news messmer and frightening stuff, can't understand them how they got the card number, very weird. What card do you get then with only having as much as you put in, sounds like a good idea, I only have a regular one. "Women are like tricks by sleight of hand, Which, to admire, we should not understand." WILLIAM CONGREVE | |
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| 10-03-11 10:46am - 4829 days | #11 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Yes, it's a rechargeable card, elephant. I don't have a line of credit with the bank but put money out of my regular account into the card. This is great because there are no statements coming to the house, there's no interest, there's no temptation to overspend BIG on an impulse buy. Something that is all too easy with a regular credit card. This crook's theft couldn't have happened if I had stuck to my original plan to only "deposit" small amounts to the card, just enough to cover the price of subscription to a site or two, but my bank sometimes takes up to three days to process a deposit or withdrawal, and I let the amount on the card build up too much so I wouldn't have to wait. I guess that still facilitates impulse buying, but on a smaller scale, doesn't it? A mistake I won't make again. And I still have no idea how they could have gotten my number. All the porn sites I had dealings with in the past were quite above board when it came to billing. | |
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