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03-20-16  12:22pm - 3199 days Original Post - #1
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Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice opens March 25, 2016

When I first heard about this movie, I couldn't understand how Batman and Superman would be enemies.
Aren't both of them heroes, on the side of good versus evil?
Also, how can Superman, the most powerful mortal in the world of DC Comics, fight Batman, and lose?
Batman is a powerful man, who has trained to become one of the world's best fighters. And he has all kinds of secret weapons he can use.
But how can Batman stand up against Superman, who can bend steel in his bare hands, who has X-ray vision, who can jump and fly and have bullets bounce off his chest?

But now I have grown up. I have seen all kinds of superheroes, who can do impossible feats.
So, yes, Batman can fight Superman, and possibly win.
Especially if he has the help of Lex Luthor, who is a twisted super-genius with a grudge against Superman.

I don't know if I will see this movie in a theater, or wait for the DVD.
DVDs seem to come out in 3-4 months or so, so that would be the cheaper route.

Anyone at PU planning to see the new Batman v Superman movie?

I think it's been a couple of years since I last went to a theater, since it's really hard to choose which movies will appeal to me. Spending $10 for a ticket, and $10 for popcorn and a drink, seems kind of expensive. And I don't really care for most superhero movies any more. Transformers, Iron Man, whoever, are not that great, or good, in my opinion. And if I watch those films, I'd rather do it in the comfort of my own home, where I can have popcorn and a soda for $2.00 or less.

PS: There used to be a thread dedicated to movies. It's been inactive for quite a while. I did a search for the thread, and I couldn't find it listed. So maybe it has gone to PU software heaven? Edited on Mar 20, 2016, 12:28pm

03-21-16  03:54am - 3198 days #2
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


PS: There used to be a thread dedicated to movies. It's been inactive for quite a while. I did a search for the thread, and I couldn't find it listed. So maybe it has gone to PU software heaven?


Hope Amanda doesn't mind me jumping in here.

I suspect you're talking about the old Upcoming Movie Thread
https://www.pornusers.com/forum/forum_thr...d.html?threadid=1211
... which ran from Dec of 2009 to July 2015

Which itself was basically a continuation of the original 2009 Upcoming Movie Thread
https://www.pornusers.com/forum/forum_thread.html?threadid=706
... which ran from May 2009 to Dec 30 2009

Hope that helps.

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03-21-16  09:05am - 3198 days #3
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Thanks for the information and links, Khan.
I did a google search, and came up empty.
Guess I have to brush up on my Google search skills.

I also entered "movie" in the PU thread search box, but you have to scroll down to the 52 hit to find the Upcoming Movie Thread.

Upcoming movies was never a popular thread for most PU members.
I guess that PU members don't go to the theater very often. Maybe they wait for cable or DVD.

But thanks for the info. I'll probably wait to see the upcoming Superman v Batman movie on DVD or cable, myself.
LOL. Edited on Mar 21, 2016, 09:20am

03-21-16  06:13pm - 3197 days #4
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Batman could nuke Superman with a nasty batch of kryptonite, Superman's only vulnerability. But why would Batman do that?

And why, for that matter, would Superman be against Batman? Is all of this just a further extension of societal dysfunction, with superheroes going after each other? Or will it be a grand tragedy, with both of them having no choice but to attack the other thanks to some plot twist? I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

03-21-16  06:13pm - 3197 days #5
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Frank Miller's "The Dark Knight Returns" had an epic battle between a 70+ year old Batman and Superman, and from my investigation, it was a major source for "Dawn of Justice."

Yeah, Superman is an incredibly powerful hero due to his Kryptonian heritage, and The Batman is just a very smart, well-trained human being, but they have faced off many times in the comics, and The Batman usually can take him due to his incredible planning and array of gadgets (he's also not afraid to use kryptonite to nullify Kal-El's powers).

The Batman FTW!

I will definitely see "Dawn of Justice" in the theater either opening night (with a ton of other comics junkies), or the first weekend. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

03-21-16  11:20pm - 3197 days #6
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I grew up reading Superman in the 1950s and 1960s.
In those days, Kryptonite was Superman's main weakness.
With Kryptonite, any average human could defeat Superman, without any special skills or other weapons.
So if Batman is willing to use Kryptonite, it will be a one-sided victory, with no suspense in the fight between the two heroes.

Of course, the nature of Batman and Superman have evolved dramatically from when they were portrayed in the 1950s and early 1960s. They might have the same names, but they are actually very different characters.

03-22-16  05:47am - 3197 days #7
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


I grew up reading Superman in the 1950s and 1960s.
In those days, Kryptonite was Superman's main weakness.
With Kryptonite, any average human could defeat Superman, without any special skills or other weapons.
So if Batman is willing to use Kryptonite, it will be a one-sided victory, with no suspense in the fight between the two heroes.



Well, they could leave kryptonite out of the picture until the climax, and then have a deus ex machina moment in which he suddenly gets possession of it. Just saying ... I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

03-22-16  12:28pm - 3197 days #8
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Looking back:
"The Death of Superman" is a 1992 comic book storyline that occurred mostly in DC Comics' Superman titles. The completed multi-issue story arc was given the title The Death and Return of Superman.[1]

In the story, Superman engages in battle with a seemingly unstoppable killing machine named Doomsday in the streets of Metropolis.[2] At the fight's conclusion, both combatants apparently die from their wounds in Superman (vol. 2) #75 in 1992.

The crossover depicted the world's reaction to Superman's death in "Funeral for a Friend," the emergence of four individuals believed to be the "new" Superman, and the eventual return of the original Superman in "Reign of the Supermen!".

So the question does come up if Superman has been revived one asks the question did Superman ever truly die ?
In many stories line looking at Kypton it would seem many simply ascended but maybe not perished.

So then the addition question comes up if, Batman was exposed to the same dangers ( minus Kryptonite ) as Superman would not Batman die if exposed to those same dangers ? Kryptonite if used by Batman seems almost like a given to be used being so many before in Comic, TV and movies have used it. Seems almost silly if Batman doesn't but then ......one must wonder if the go to is Kryptonite?
Does Superman have some new way to battle Kryptonite no seen before. Since 2007

03-22-16  02:05pm - 3197 days #9
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From REDDIT.COM

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskScienceFicti...elf_from_kryptonite/

[–]firelock_ny 12 points 3 years ago

More than once Superman has worn a lead-lined suit into battle, and the leaded glass (or plexiglass) faceplate is sufficient to block the kryptonite radiation while allowing him to see. Many of his powers (super-breath, heat vision, x-ray vision, etc.) won't work through the suit, and use of some of his abilities (such as too much of his super-strength) would damage the suit to the point where it would no longer provide protection.

I even recall one instance where an enemy temporarily altered the sun's radiation to include wavelengths identical to that of kryptonite - Superman had to devise a "Super-mobile" shielded vehicle to allow him to deal with the threat.

So yes, Superman can wear protective clothing to block the effects of kryptonite, but the limitations this places on him lead to him only doing so when he knows there is a need for it.
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My personal thoughts:
Since Superman is a scientist (he has a Fortress of Solitude, which holds secret knowledge from Kryton).
So he should be able to build a wonderful invisible protective suit against Krytonite, much like Batman is able to build wonderful devices to help in his fight against criminals.

So: with a personal, invisible protective suit, Superman can easily defeat Batman. Even a Batman with glowing eyes when he wears the special batsuit.

So Superman will turn Batman into Batshit. No other conclusion is possible.

And the new Batshit will be a dark and smelly Anti-hero, to be feared by honest and God-fearing citizens throughout the world.

Superman reigns supreme. The true symbol of Truth, Justice, and the American Way Of Life.

Cha-King. Ring up the box office scores, for a blockbuster movie.
Edited on Mar 22, 2016, 02:09pm

03-22-16  06:16pm - 3196 days #10
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I won't waste my money on this movie because I already know by watching all the previews that it's going to be a long huge mess. Let me count the ways Warner has managed to fuck up two franchise.

1- There aren't two main characters in B vs S but in fact four. What's Lex Luthor and Wonder Woman doing here?

2- Then there are all the secondary characters that need some screen time like Lois lane, Martha kent, Perry White, Alfred and what I assume is Doomsday but is more of a plot point/action sequence.

3- The movie is dark. Not just because many of the scenes seem to be at night but the core of the movie looks and feels dark/depressing. It was bad enough in the most recent Superman movie but you would think that warner might have wanted to show Superman in a more joyful way. Guess not.

4- The movie is two and a half hours long. Fuck me but I can't help but feel that there will be useless filler in some parts and major plot holes elsewhere otherwise the movie would be four hours long.

5- This last one has less to do with the movie and more to do with what I think is over-saturation of the market with superhero movies. I appreciate what Disney/Marvel had in mind when they first stated making superhero movies but it is possible to kill the Goose that lays golden eggs. If I disregard the Raimi Spiderman movies and the two subsequent(in my opinion) inferior Sony reboot, the three X-men movies which became the two reboot X-Men first class movies and countless Wolverine movies then that still leaves us with three Iron man movies, two Captain America, two Thor, two Avengers, one Guardians of the galaxy and a soon to be released Captain America movie.

I didn't see Age of Ultron and although I'm sure I will. I still don't have a lot of interest. I don't think I'm going to go see the new Captain America nor will I go see the next Thor or any other Marvel franchise other that Guardians of the Galaxy but in ways Guardians doesn't really feel like a true superhero movie so much as a space opera that just happens to star some Marvel characters.

Sorry for the long rant. I feel much better. Long live the Brown Coats.

03-24-16  06:40am - 3195 days #11
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I've heard early reviews are not that great?!

None-the-less, I'm a big moviegoer and have purchased tickets to see it on Monday. So we'll see!

@Pat362: I do agree that all promo I have seen for the flick has been quite dark.

And I admit, no Batman incarnation will ever replace Michael Keaton for me. Haha!

03-24-16  08:08am - 3195 days #12
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Amanda, I'm surprised at your choice of Michael Keaton for best Batman.
Have you forgotten George Clooney, with his Batsuit nipples?
George is a sexy sweetheart, and the girl-fans should have been all over him.

Just kidding.

But I saw Batman & Robin (on DVD), and didn't understand why there was so much criticism. I thought it was a fun flick.

03-24-16  06:11pm - 3194 days #13
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^I agree that the nipples on the armor was really bad but who can forget the butt armor which was no better. I know most people have bad memories of Batman and Robin. I know I am one of them but even though Clooney's performance was wooden. I don't think any actor could have saved this mess.

I agree with Amanda that Keaton is the best Batman but I have a soft spot for Kilmer's batman. Mostly because it sort of reminded me of the more cartoonish 60's TV version. Long live the Brown Coats.

03-25-16  12:49am - 3194 days #14
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I really enjoyed Val Kilmer's performance as Doc Holliday in Tombstone, the 1993 movie about Wyatt Earp.
A lot of really good actors in a fast-paced western.
I don't know why Kurt Russell (who plays Wyatt Earp in the movie) is so under-rated as an actor. He's been an action hero forever in many hits.

03-25-16  10:07am - 3194 days #15
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^Maybe because he makes it look so simple that most critics simply can't or won't recognize the true acting talent. He has the honor of being one of the few Disney child/teen stars to have transited into more adult roles without any obvious issues.

Kurt was a huge Disney stars in the 60's and 70's and he has played so many iconic sci-fi/fantasy/horror roles that he must be super popular at comicon's. Long live the Brown Coats.

03-25-16  04:28pm - 3194 days #16
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


I really enjoyed Val Kilmer's performance as Doc Holliday in Tombstone, the 1993 movie about Wyatt Earp.
A lot of really good actors in a fast-paced western.
I don't know why Kurt Russell (who plays Wyatt Earp in the movie) is so under-rated as an actor. He's been an action hero forever in many hits.


It was if that part was made for him in Tombstone great movie, why many of Val's movies flopped. There are just as many he did very well that was masterpiece.

Keaton was among my favorites as Batman as in most movies one must ask do you believe his parts. Goofy or what ever you believe him and with all these Batmans it boil down to do you believe that they are Batman?

I grew up watching the original on TV, it was one of the best cult TV shows. As kids comedy or supoerhero show Adam West is and will always be Batman. I always thought it was sacrilegious not to have used him in any of the movie franchises in cameos. Since 2007

03-27-16  08:15pm - 3191 days #17
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Did I predict that Batman v Superman would make money?

Here's the latest estimate for the weekend opening:

'Batman v Superman' Dominates the Box Office, Opening Over $420 Million Worldwide

And that estimate was made before our very own Amanda has gone to see the movie.

03-27-16  09:29pm - 3191 days #18
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I'm not a big movie fan, but I had to chime in to say that this thread has had almost 84,000 hits. I wonder how many new signups we'll get from people who were hitting Google up for movie information and found this site by accident. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. Edited on Mar 27, 2016, 09:33pm

03-28-16  06:36am - 3191 days #19
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Batman vs Superman: Dawn of Justice was amazing! Ben Affleck is the best Dark Knight to date, and this is coming from someone who refused to believe in him. He proved me wrong. Not only does he play an incredible Batman, but an exceptional Bruce Wayne.

The movie lays a solid foundation for the DC universe and it's upcoming films. We are even given teasers to future characters as well. Don't listen to the critics, if you are a true comic book fan and are well versed in the realm of the DC universe and it's characters from the graphic novels, you will love this film.

03-28-16  10:49pm - 3190 days #20
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Haven't been talked into going to see this one. But will see it when it comes out on DVD. Only superhero film I avoid is Spiderman. Never liked the character.

Oh and on the Val Kilmer talk, I've also liked a lot of his movies. I thought he was at his best in The Doors movie as Jim Morrison.

My biggest problem with these newer, darker, grittier superhero films is the volume. The Batman movies starting with Batman Begins drove me crazy with the near whisper talking that escalates into a full orchestra at 120 decibels. Reminds me of artsy porn.

And speaking of Ben Affleck, I wish he would direct some more movies like Gone Baby Gone and The Town. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

03-29-16  05:42am - 3190 days #21
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Originally Posted by luthien:


Batman vs Superman: Dawn of Justice was amazing! Ben Affleck is the best Dark Knight to date, and this is coming from someone who refused to believe in him. He proved me wrong. Not only does he play an incredible Batman, but an exceptional Bruce Wayne.

The movie lays a solid foundation for the DC universe and it's upcoming films. We are even given teasers to future characters as well. Don't listen to the critics, if you are a true comic book fan and are well versed in the realm of the DC universe and it's characters from the graphic novels, you will love this film.


I gotta say, I think he was a fine Batman, but his Bruce Wayne could have used a bit of work. It's like he was always in his "Batman" mode. Bruce Wayne to me was always that charming playboy billionaire and I just didn't get that from Affleck's Bruce portrayal.

04-03-16  03:16pm - 3185 days #22
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Hardcore Henry, a new film opening April 8, is for fans of the herky-jerky hand-held camera films.
The movie was shot with the GoPro Hero 3 camera.
It's supposed to be a first person action movie where the audience sees through the eyes of Henry, a cybernetic super soldier.

Since I'm not a fan of herky-jerky films, I will wait for it on cable.

04-08-16  06:36pm - 3179 days #23
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I have to put my support for Michael Keaton as the best Batman ever. It was a very surprising casting choice, and he did a fantastic job.

Christian Bale was pretty good too.

I have a friend who won't accept any other Batman than Adam West. But everyone knows Adam West is the mayor of Quohogg (the town in "Family Guy"). We joke about it sometimes. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

04-09-16  11:00am - 3179 days #24
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^I can appreciate the acting talent of Christian Bale but I didn't really like the Christopher Nolan Batman movies. I know his take was of Batman a darker versions than previous incarnation and that does very little for me but based on box office profit. I'm in the minority of Christopher's Batman movies. Long live the Brown Coats.

05-06-16  01:05pm - 3152 days #25
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Captain America: Civil War (2016) opens today, in America.
And no one has posted at PU about this movie.

Are we all a bunch of commies, that we are ignoring the greatest superhero in the western world?

(Commies used to be a curse word, when I was growing up. I guess it's different in today's world. But I seem to remember when I was drafted into the US army, that I had to swear I wasn't a communist.)

(Until 2014, to enlist in the U.S. armed services [air force, army, marines, navy] a person has to use the phrase "so help me God" when swearing his oath of allegiance. But today, if you are an atheist, you do not have to swear to God. So times change. Or the rules do.)

05-07-16  09:25am - 3151 days #26
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


Captain America: Civil War (2016) opens today, in America.
And no one has posted at PU about this movie.


Is there any sign it is going to be any good? The first film of his with Chris Evans in the red, white, and blue, was pretty rough. The second wasn't much better. (Hydra is trying to kill a third of the human race, should we call the Avengers? Nah. They're probably busy... with stuff.) So I have little hope for this film.

Frankly, most of these big budget superhero films of recent have been rather dull in my opinion. Every movie has to have multiple half-hour long giant battles of epic proportions. The movies don't even try to be shorter than 2 hours anymore — I feel like I'm paying nearly $20 go and watch somebody play a video game for 2 hours. Granted it has great graphics, but character development and plot are shoved aside for more explosions and more bad guys.

I like a bit of spectacle, but I also want to be able to connect with the hero(s) on some level. I liked Whedon's first avengers, but the battle scene at the end went about 10 minutes too long. His second Avengers felt like one giant, continuous battle scene, and little else. They stopped for 3 seconds to drop the bombshell that Black Widow and the Hulk were dating, and then ran on. Plus Thor visited a cave.

Nolan felt Batman was simply too badass to have just one villain in each of his films, instead opting for two or three major villains per film — and frankly, his films are still some of the most watchable of recent efforts (especially the 3rd, in an odd twist on the rules of trilogies).

I still hold the first of RDJ's Ironman movies as the gold-standard because it was funny, human, interesting, and for a super hero movie, decidedly small. He didn't rain destruction down on half of humanity, he was fighting for control of his company, and he had to grow-up and not be as much of an asshole. Granted it was a rather elderly coming-of-age story, but it was one none-the-less. It didn't have a hundred different characters, it didn't have hours of endless CGI fueled battle scenes, it didn't place the entire world at the brink of destruction. It was trials and triumph of a flawed and interesting hero.

Captain America was never a particularly interesting character (the adventures of America's best boy scout!) and while I think Evans does an admirable job of making him interesting, if you slap him in the middle of a film with a bunch of other characters, it all gets kind of muddy.

So unless CA: CW gets the most glowing of glowing reviews, I think I'll pass. Maybe when its available on Netflix I'll check it out. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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06-02-16  09:18am - 3125 days #27
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Captain America: Civil War was very good.

06-03-16  03:02pm - 3124 days #28
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It still better love story than twilight. I love super with his underwear outside. Damn so hot. hehheeh "When I'm gone, just look up the sky love's and remember me, when you see a rainbow cross over the river flow."

06-05-16  12:33pm - 3122 days #29
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Captain America is my second favorite Superhero after The Batman, so "Captain America: Civil War" was a must see. I saw it Monday with a couple of friends and we liked it a lot. It was close to the graphic novel, but had alterations to make it conform to the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

I like Chris Evans and the job he does with Cap. The Captain America movies are, after Iron Man I, Avengers I, and Guardians of the Galaxy, the best of the Marvel movies. And I really like Robert Downey Junior and the job he does as Tony Stark, but Evans makes Cap a more compelling guy.

Civil War was about friends fighting over deeply held principles, and I thought it was mostly well done. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."

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