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| 04-21-09 12:15pm - 5686 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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Riffy (0)
Suspended Webmaster  Posts: 73 Registered: Jul 30, '08 Location: Scotland |
Website Tours Hi Just a wee question regarding tours if you guys would be kind enough to get back to me with any thoughts on the matter. My tour is a 1 page effort. I haven't got the biggest website around so I don't really need a 3 or 4 page tour I think. I see tours on other sites that are 3 or 4 pages or even bigger and it seems a chore trudging through them when I reckon they could get the info/look/feel/freebies on less pages. Obviously a huge site would probably need a huge tour, but I think if small can be done well, that's the way to do it. I think "less is more" on this issue and just wondered what you lot felt. cheers Riffy www.rockchicksandbikerbabes.co.uk | |
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| 04-21-09 12:57pm - 5686 days | #2 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
I would have to say that "less is not more" when it comes to tours. If websites gave great and informative tours then there wouldn't be such a need for places like PU ;) Personally, I like full tours (see Vivthomas or Teendreams) where you can see all the sets and vids available, you just can't download the vids or see the all the thumbnails in the set. That way, you know what you're getting and there's no risk of being mislead (not that you would do anythign like that) like some sites where the girls featured in the tour never appear on the site. Obviously, your site is smaller than the examples I gave. Lest you start feeling "size envy" I would say that your tour should at least have the model directory available (if you don't have one, create one I'd say) with the number of sets / scenes available. Thus, you could probably get away with a several page tour. I'm always a bit worried when I only see a one page tour since that really doesn't provide any info for the customer. I can't recall ever seeing a one pager and saying to myself "Wow, this seems like a cool site". So, I would say that you need to expand on your "less is more" philosophy. And while we're talking philosophy I'll bastardize the English philosopher Thomas Hobbes (rubbing more salt into those Scottish wounds) and say that I like my tours "Nasty, Brutish and Long". Edited on Apr 21, 2009, 01:03pm | |
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| 04-21-09 01:01pm - 5686 days | #3 | |
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picdude (0)
Active User Posts: 107 Registered: Dec 26, '08 Location: Italy |
I disagree but prehaps it's just me, as a porn fan I join because of the content and amount of porn a site has. Personally I enjoy checking out and seeing a little sneak peek of everything a site has to offer. The first website I ever joined was Naughty America because of the type of content and the tour was great a little clip from each scene and I knew exactly every scene that was there. Sometimes I feel if a site only puts up a couple of vids then it's hiding something (like the fact theres very little there). Looked through your tour Riffy and I like the concept as I have mentioned before but feel it's lacking in content and quality a little. I can think a few ways you could improve your videos which I'm sure you already have heard before. | |
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| 04-21-09 01:02pm - 5686 days | #4 | |
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GCode (0)
Active User  Posts: 386 Registered: Feb 23, '09 Location: USA |
Personally, when it comes to a tour page I like to know a few things: 1. I like it when a tour/preview let's you know how many videos and photo sets there are plus info on what type of files they are (format's for videos), including res sizes for both and availability of zip for galleries. 2. I like it when a tour/preview let's you view the model index before, not all the content that they have to offer (you get an idea of the site in numbers has available in #1) but you get a feel of who is on the site. 3.I like it when a tour/preview let's you see an update list of a least the past few weeks to get a feel how much the site is actually updated plus get a feel for times the site is updated. 4. I usually am happy with just a couple samples, like maybe 2-3 videos and a few sample pics to check out watermark size (if there is) and quality/style. 5. I like it when a tour/preview just lists the bonus stuff you may get, I don't really need a preview. This includes if there are bonus feeds, network sites, forums, content, profiles, so on and so on. After seeing all this above I get a clear picture as to what I'm getting in to and can usually make an honest judgement whether I will join or not. It's usually when sites don't have this I need to really check out reviews and see what's going on. Plus, when this info is displayed, I can sometimes bypass or overlook reviews (especially if they are negative or say it's average) because I have a clear picture and can judge myself. Just my 2 cents... Sexted From My iPad | |
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| 04-21-09 01:13pm - 5686 days | #5 | |
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Jeffrey99 (0)
Active User  Posts: 106 Registered: Nov 04, '08 Location: Good Ole Midwest USA |
I have to agree with others. To be honest, if a site only had a 1 page preview, I'd probably not join. I think you need atleast 3-4 pages. 1)Would be a picture preview, maybe with like a preview from a few galleries. However each image preview should be available in all sizes that your website has. Or atleast letting us know exactly what resolution is the highest. 2)I think you need a page for the videos. Again in with a preview of all resolutions or atleast the highest resolution. 3)Think you need a preview page of your latest 5-10 updates (with dates), to give us a indication of just how much the site is updated. 4)And I agree with others on a Model Directory link being available on the preview pages. | |
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| 04-21-09 01:49pm - 5686 days | #6 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
Don't know if you've checked yet, Riffy, but in case you haven't, go to "user polls" here at PU and type "tour" as a keyword search. The results of six different polls on tours will be yours for the effort. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 04-21-09 06:16pm - 5686 days | #8 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
Small 1-page tours can be OK if they include samples of dated updates so that prospective members can get a sense of whether it's a live site and what the quality is of what's inside and an updated run-down on the quantity of material would be very helpful also - so many photosets, so many vids - and the size of the photos and vids. These are all things that people here seem to care about - I know I do - and without dated updates, I'm pretty much going to assume that you've got a dead site that you're trying to promote. | |
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| 04-21-09 06:21pm - 5686 days | #9 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I tend to agree with pretty much everyone up to now in that I prefer more to less. I want to know exactly what I'm getting for my dollar. If a website is quite small then of course it won't have many pages since there is nothing to put there, but if a site has been in business for afew years then I'd expect a lot more in the preview section. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 04-21-09 07:06pm - 5686 days | #10 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
All the replies to your question of tour content make sense to me. The tour pages are one of your main selling points. It lets potential subscribers see what the site offers. At a minimum you need: -listing of models, with a thumbnail for each. -listing of model videos and photo sets, with: ----a few screenshots for each video. ----thumbnails for each photo set. ----maybe 3-4 low-resolution pictures for each photo set. -a few short video clips (45-60 secs long) as a preview to give idea of quality and style of your videos. It would take a little work/money to make the tour, but it should pay off with more subscribers to your site. There are lots of sites out there competing for cash. If you don't give a sample of what you're selling (in your tour), why would people buy your product? Regards. | |
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| 04-22-09 01:20pm - 5685 days | #11 | |
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Riffy (0)
Suspended Webmaster Posts: 73 Registered: Jul 30, '08 Location: Scotland |
At the moment my tour is just the 1 page like I said, but it has... A pic of each girl. OK I only got 16 models so far and that will grow, so the tour page will increase... or go to page 2 at some point. The number of videos for each girl, and some bumf about her. 2 free videos around a minute long at full resolution/size. At the top of all my pages are the number of girls and total videos. There's also some spiel on the tour about no DRM etc So basically I got everything I think I needed on the 1 page... but that's only because at this stage I have the 16 girls... I haven't got a model page preview so that's something I may need to look at. The last 6 and the forthcoming 2 videos are on the home page... perhaps that needs changing... Thanks for your input. Appreciated. Cheers www.rockchicksandbikerbabes.co.uk | |
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| 04-22-09 02:58pm - 5685 days | #12 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
A suggestion. Eliminate the intro/home page that is: http://www.rockchicksandbikerbabes.co.uk/home.php And replace the contents of that page, which has little information, with the first page of your tour page: http://www.rockchicksandbikerbabes.co.uk/tour.php Then, once you get a second tour page, you can add a link to that second tour page. Your intro/home page at: http://www.rockchicksandbikerbabes.co.uk/home.php gives little information. I think you're much better off using your current tour page as the home/intro/tour page to your site. If you want to keep the current intro page, rename it as the "Updates" page, which is the more usual name for the information it shows. And put a link for the "Updates" page. But use the "Tour" page as the Home/Intro/Tour/first page you see as a non-member. That page gives you nice pictures to look at, and some basic information about the site models, etc. The current Intro page is less interesting, less colorful than your Tour page. Also, could you photo shop the 2 thumbnails of the sample video clips you show on the Tour page? Make each thumbnail brighter so you see the model more clearly and the thumbnail picture stands out more clearly. Presentation can make a big difference in how appealing a product is. Edited on Apr 22, 2009, 03:46pm | |
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| 04-22-09 09:52pm - 5684 days | #13 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
Having seen the page, I think this is a fine tour - very detailed info so any prospective member can know what they're going to get - simple but informative - could be prettier, but it is what it is, so no prospective member can complain about bait-and-switch - and that's important - Good job | |
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| 04-23-09 05:12am - 5684 days | #14 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
I don't know how much of an issue it is to others, but I'm inclined to stay away from sites that need cookies enabled just to view their tour. Yes, I could remove it after the fact - I just don't see a need for the cookie. Somehow, over time, I've managed to get the spam in my inbox down to a minimum and I do what I can to keep it that way. The first defense I have is to deny cookies for any site I'm not joining. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
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| 04-23-09 09:43am - 5684 days | #15 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
Preview AND tours are the most importend issue when browsing a new site: What's inside? We all know sites where you do not get any preview, even if it says press for preview - and you just get another site with words and promisses - nothing else. Some sites shows you almost the whole package, like for instance Bangbros - I'm not a fan of Bangbros, but at least the show you whats inside with preview af all videos and photosets - that's the way to do it. I skip any site with poor preview... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" | |
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| 04-23-09 11:20am - 5684 days | #16 | |
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Riffy (0)
Suspended Webmaster Posts: 73 Registered: Jul 30, '08 Location: Scotland |
I'm not the technical guy who runs my site, and although I know what cookies are, I'm not 100% on the specifics so I'll ask my webguy and get back to you. I think that it's all to do with affiliates referring customers to my site. Just my guess though. And thanks for all the input here gang. \m/ www.rockchicksandbikerbabes.co.uk | |
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| 04-23-09 11:53am - 5684 days | #17 | |
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Khan (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
I'm curious, what gives you the idea that accepting cookies will (in any way) increase your email spam? The two have absolutly nothing to do with one another. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator Now at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson | |
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| 04-23-09 12:21pm - 5684 days | #18 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
Hey - I'll admit I don't know 1/3 of what I'd like to when it comes to computers. What I do know is that I haven't changed my browsing habits and I'm still on a constant search for the same "out there" stuff I always have. And I used to get a ton of spam every day. If what you say is true, it seems to me that it's a most remarkable coincidence that, ever since I've started religiously denying cookies, and making sure I checking existing cookies regularly, I now get maybe 3 or 4 pieces of junk in my inbox daily instead of the 10 or 20 or rmore I used to get. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
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| 04-23-09 12:24pm - 5684 days | #19 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Maybe it is just general paranoia; we think that if a site has to store any information about us, even if it just for a tour and cannot lead to spam, then they are asking too much and we get uncomfortable. I have joined quite a few sites who require them but they are still irritating for the purpose of a tour. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 04-23-09 12:58pm - 5684 days | #20 | |
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maxmixdv (0)
Suspended Webmaster Posts: 20 Registered: Apr 23, '09 Location: Miami |
I have something wanted to say.. oh well.. I am not sure your site has a lot of videos or not.. but for us to buy it, we want to see what you have!! some sites are totally opened to public which guests can view all pages except download links. maybe you can try something like that. just my thoughts. MAXMIXDV.COM | |
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| 04-23-09 02:57pm - 5684 days | #21 | |
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Khan (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
I'm not here to change your mind or your surfing habits, but ... Yes, it's pretty much just paranoia. If you look at the info contained in the cookie (you are aware you can do that, right?) then you'll see, there's no way it's accessing your email address. As mentioned, cookies are used to track referrals, thus, it's unlikely you'll see this go away any time soon. Like it or not, without affiliate referrals, most pay sites simply could not exist. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator Now at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson | |
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| 04-24-09 05:03am - 5683 days | #22 | |
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picdude (0)
Active User Posts: 107 Registered: Dec 26, '08 Location: Italy |
erm one question why the need for the tick box on the intro page? It gives you two options yes or no AND you need to tick the box too... Just a little niggling point. | |
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| 04-25-09 12:16pm - 5682 days | #23 | |
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Riffy (0)
Suspended Webmaster Posts: 73 Registered: Jul 30, '08 Location: Scotland |
The tick box is there with my lawyers advice. My webguy wants to get rid of it so there's just the button. The debate rages. I know that most sites have either no entry gate or just a button, and although I agree that it's a niggle, it's there until my lawyer and webguy stop arguing. lol. And don't forget that I'm in Scotland. Our laws are different. www.rockchicksandbikerbabes.co.uk | |
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| 04-25-09 12:18pm - 5682 days | #24 | |
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Riffy (0)
Suspended Webmaster Posts: 73 Registered: Jul 30, '08 Location: Scotland |
Like the members page but without the download links. It was something I looked at last year when I started, but didn't persue. Possible though. I'll chat with cleverclogs. Oh and the site's not for sale. ;-) www.rockchicksandbikerbabes.co.uk | |
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